Mpls. Chief: More Guns Is Not The Solution

By Edgar Linares, NewsRadio 830 WCCO

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Minneapolis Police Chief Timothy Dolan is pushing for more gun control after meeting with dozens of other police chiefs.

This morning Chief Dolan spoke WCCO’s John Williams.

WCCO’s John Williams Interviews Chief Dolan

Dolan recently met with 55 city chiefs in Canada about gun control. He says they are not after those who own guns legally.

Dolan says gun advocates, like the National Rifle Association (NRA), are claiming a drop in violent crimes is due to an increase in guns.

“Taking credit for crime decreases across the country because there’s more guns is just absurd,” said Chief Dolan. “There’s not a chief in the country that’s going to tell you that more guns are going to make things better in their cities.”

Dolan says crime is going down in big cities but there are still a number of people being killed by guns. He says stats show that 80 percent of gun deaths in the civilized world happen in the United States.

“All we’re asking for is that guns be licensed and accounted for,” said Dolan. “We’re not after legal guns and people legally owning guns.”

Dolan says the NRA is fighting gun licensing laws in Minnesota and at the national level.

“Why would you want an untraceable anonymous gun?” asked Dolan. “What the need for that? But, there’s NRA feels that big brother is going to come around and take their guns away, that’s ridiculous. We don’t have time or a capacity… I don’t even think there’s a leaning to do that in law enforcement.”

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  • John

    Just like they wouldnt in Austrailia or the UK? More great one sided reporting from the local 4

  • insignificant

    we want untraceable anonymous guns cause if our wonderful,trustworthy,honorable,honest gov. keeps installing their police states ,and try to dis-arm the law abiding citizens who want to defend the constitution of the united states,we have something to shoot the tyrants right betwixt the eye,eh?

    • justin

      W kalek mi akes lqwo towkdr, fode risle mizle msal trila jeaokora. Parjatkma djq aokra tomedrka si amao rdato frigamgoto! Jkaeka ria mro atow moratalo, fkra kural amak adiaca. ir ake amakel amekrl!

      • amekr riddadidi

        You tell ’em justin. I understand.

    • Another Bob

      Do you really think you’re going to rise up and save us from whomever YOU don’t like.

      Seek help. You need a doctor not a weapon.

  • justin

    W kalek mi akes lqwo towkdr, fode risle mizle msal trila jeaokora. Parjatkma djq aokra tomedrka si amao rdato frigamgoto! Jkaeka ria mro atow moratalo, fkra kural amak adiaca.

    • amekr riddadidi

      Well put.

  • dphilips

    You gun nuts are all hillbillies!

    • John

      And most all of you non Gun Nuts are bleeding hearts without a job or a life – Living off the taxes paid for by those Gun Nuts. Go hug a tree and eat your tofu!!!!

      • Patrick

        Sounds like a good life.

      • Karl

        +1, What we need to push for, is STRICTER PENALTIES for existing criminal offenses, not more laws. I intend to at the very least email Chief Dolan with my concerns on this.

        For those of us against firearms in general, I am betting that most of you have very little, to no experiences with said firearms, nor the desire to gain that experience. I have no problem with this at all, it is a decision that an individual needs to make based on their own beliefs/choice. That being said, there are a lot of people out there who do have a legitimate interest in shooting sports/home defense ect., that is another choice. Go ahead and either participate in gun ownership, or don’t participate, you decide. That being said, if you decide that firearm ownership is not for you, don’t spoil it for the people who enjoy it.

        Case in point: I don’t much like the color blue, I like red better (at least on cars). Cars are big, fast and in the wrong hands can hurt people. I think red cars are easier to see coming at you than blue cars, SO, lets prohibit blue cars and see if that helps.

        Dolan’s statistics have been doctored to prove the agenda he is pushing. Certain parts of this country have more violent crime than other parts. If you were to see a map showing condensed gang activity for instance, it might follow some parts of the country that have higher crime than others. Above I said stricter penalties were the answer, not more laws, here is why. Joe Blow, a gang member, is ineligable to purchase a firearm because of a domestic violance conviction 3 years ago. See again, Joe can’t buy or “own” a gun. Joe’s buddy, a heroine dealer, also deals in STOLEN firearms. He sets Joe up, with a STOLEN firearm, because Joe can’t buy one. Now Joe gets busted one day after a fight, with drugs and the STOLEN firearm, and is then entered into the statistics as a firearms crime. Joe broke the law the second he acquired the STOLEN firearm. He does not even have to commit a further crime, because every second that the firearm is “his” he is a criminal. Joe is not going to the local guns & ammo and lawfully purchasing, because he can’t, they would not sell to him (even at a gunshow).

        Folks, believe what you want, but I will tell you, the people you do not want owning firearms, are not going to stop owning firearms just because a law is in place (locks only keep out the honest people). Drugs are illegal (been so for a long time), and you watch the news every night and hear of large drug busts. Never EVER give up rights to something, just because you cannot appreciate it at this moment in your life. If you don’t apprecciate firearms ownership, then don’t own, but don’t prevent it for others.

  • mark from

    Simply put Chief Dolan wants our guns. Hey Chief Dolan how about enforcing the laws when people commit crimes with guns? How about putting people away longer than 1 year when they commit a crime with a gun.
    When you said ” We don’t have time or a capacity… I don’t even think there’s a leaning to do that in law enforcement.” How about saying “We are going to get tougher laws on people who commit crimes with guns”
    You are an embarrassment to Minnesota

    • max

      Mark, over the summer, Dolan and the MPD were part of a multi-agency effort to get violent criminals off the street and prosecute them to the fullest possible extent. It was called Operation Exile. There was a 23% decrease in gun violence in MPLS following the launch of the program. While we can’t draw a direct connection between the program, it was under Operation Exile that some of the city’s most prolific offenders were put in jail.

      • max

        *between the program and the drop in gun violence, I mean.

      • John


        Where did those figures come from???. let me guess – The MPD

      • max

        Yes, that was my source, which of course we can’t blindly trust. I was more pointing out that Mark asked why Dolan hasn’t announced a plan to come down hard on people who commit crimes with guns, when Dolan did exactly that less than a year ago.

    • Jon

      The chief specifically said he doesn’t want to take your guns, he just wants all guns to be registered and accounted for. I don’t see what the problem is with that.

      • insignificant

        the problem is an out of control gov. who keep nippin away at the bill of rights,and infringeing upon the right for law-abiding citizens to be armed…they aren’t trusted…a criminal wont register and account for any fire-arm,so obviously we know whom this is directed at…another thing…violent criminals need the justice from old…capital punishment…cause they get out madder than ever and do more violence …

  • Mr Pilgrim

    Well let’s see. We don’t want to take your guns, we just want to know who has them when we want to take them.

    First no smoking in bars, then no smoking on government property, then no smoking in parks or streets and on it goes.

    No, we don’t want continued government control.

    • mark from

      @Mr Pilgrim Well said Sir!

    • Todd

      No, they don’t want any nut off the street to be able to go into Gander Mountain and buy a 9mm, walk out of the store, kill some people and then not be able to trace the gun. They don’t want to take your guns, just be able to keep nuts from buying them. Conspiracy gun nuts want 30 round banana clips for their M-15’s and their AK47’s, niether of which is needed for anything but killing human beings and NO ONE needs a 30 round clip. If you do, you need to learn to shoot or if you are that bad of a shot you shouldn’t be allowed to have one. I own a 9mm handgun, a 22 handgun, 2 shotguns and a rifle. The handguns are registered so when someone breaks into my house and I shoot them it will be legal. I really don’t think anyone is going to take your legal guns. Quit listening to Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh, they lie.

      • John


        There is no gun Registration in Minnesota or anyplace Else that I know of in the US at this time. The form you fill out when you purchase a gun never leaves the location you purchased it at. Thats not saying that they could not trace it from where the manufacture sold it to who they sold it.

      • Stephen

        I agree that no one needs 30 round mag for rifles, If you cant take out your target in less than 5, then you need to spend time at the range. Having said that, I have 2 20 round clips for my sks that are for defense of property only. It is my opinion that we need to have stricter policies on hand guns but leave the rifles and shotguns out of it. All you need is a rifle for defense of larger properties and a defense barreled shotgun. Shot loads dont go through walls, Hand gun rounds do, that is why there are so many by stander deaths. I own 3 center fire rifles, 3 rim-fire rifles, and 3 shotguns, the only way I could see my self owning a hand gun is to have a way to get to my rifles or shotguns.

  • dphilips

    Nobody in their right mind needs a gun!

    • HTP

      Actually, I think it would be more appropriate to say “Nobody with a left mind wants anyone to have a gun.”

  • dphilips

    You are correct! I am a leftie and proud of it!

  • Todd

    I am a left leaning Democrat, and I own firearms specifically for the purpose of protecting my civil liberties from the right. Given all the talk of “2nd Amendment Solutions” and “Watering the Liberty Tree with blood”I have to assume that the Tea Party intends to kill their political opponents. I intend to shoot back.

    • Patrick

      Love it. It’s never the educated, thoughtful, progressives who come marching with the torches. It’s the religious, right wing gut thinkers we need to arm ourselves against. Count me in, I plan on being able defend my self when they come round telling me I’m a godless, college boy.

    • mark from

      @Todd Don’t forget to put your aluminum hat on

      • Todd

        Really, Mark? Aren’t you “Armed and dangerous?” Aren’t you prepared for a “2nd Amendment remedy”? Some of us take the Tea Party at it’s words.

  • Bam Bam

    dphilips- Some day you may meet some one & they know you don’t like guns & say that person wants to do some thing bad to some one? If I were them I’d pick you. You gunless idiot.

    • Superchik1017

      If we had stricter gun controls, then the person with the illegal gun wouldn’t have a gun to do something bad in the first place. See where they’re going with this…?

      • John

        Sure we all know that criminals will gladly turn in their guns if they pass a law saying so – You FOOL!!!!!

      • Superdude1017

        Just like we have illegal drugs such as crack cocaine… HMMMMM….. If we were stricter with crack cocaine then maybe the crackhead wouldn’t sell her body to get it, OH JUST WAIT, crack cocaine is already illegal and it is a felony if you posess it and the crackhead still does anything they can to get it. No I don’t see where they’re going with this. I say we ban alcohol, it kills more people than guns anyway….. by 300 fold….

    • Stephen

      That is right. A criminal doesn’t fear police, they fear a armed citizen. A quote from Thomas Jefferson, “One loves to possess arms, but hopes never to have to use them”.

      • Patrick

        Food for thought: Are the folks in England cowering in their homes because the streets are overflowing with gun carrying criminals who went around the laws there? Well are they? Hmmmmmm?

      • fred

        Patrick, no they are not. They do not have the same ease of access to handguns that the US does. Both Mexico and Canada have routes in to which gun and drug smugglers bring thousands of guns into the States, Illegally. They do have a huge problem with criminals using knives though. So, with your way of thinking, we should outlaw all knives. My 80 year old grandmother cooking in the kitchen should be arrested for using a 10″ knife to cut meat, simply because that knife COULD be stolen or used in a crime.

  • Another Bob

    2nd Amendment says “arms”

    Pipe bombs are arms, a .50 caliber sniper rifle is an arm. Explore the definition. A crowbar is an arm, a hydrogen bomb is an arm. Teargas is an arm, anthrax is an arm.

    I demand all of them.

    Where does it stop?

    And yes, I could reach out and touch you from just shy of a mile. I just compensate for my left lean when I fire.

  • John

    Are you a Democrat, a Republican, or a Southerner?

    Here is a little test that will help you decide.

    The answer can be found by posing the following question:

    You’re walking down a
    deserted street with your wife
    and two small children.

    Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife
    comes around the corner,
    locks eyes with you,
    screams obscenities,
    raises the knife, and charges at you…

    You are carrying a
    Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP, and you are an expert shot.
    You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
    What do you do?


    Democrat’s Answer:

    • Well, that’s not enough information to answer the question!

    • What is a Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP?

    • Does the man look poor or oppressed?

    • Is he really a terrorist? Am I guilty of profiling?

    • Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?

    • Could we run away?

    • What does my wife think?

    • What about the kids?

    • Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the
    knife out of his hand?

    • What does the law say about this situation?

    • Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it?

    • Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of
    message does this send to society and to my children?

    • Is it possible he’d be happy with just killing me?

    • Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content
    just to wound me?

    • If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get
    away while he was stabbing me?

    • Should I call 9-1-1?

    • Why is this street so deserted?

    • We need to raise taxes, have paint & weed day.

    • Can we make this a happier, healthier street that would
    discourage such behavior.

    • I need to debate this with some friends for a few days and
    try to come to a consensus.

    • This is all so confusing!

    ……….. ……… ……… ……… …….. ……… ………
    ……… ..

    Republican’s Answer:


    ………… …….. ……… ……… ……… ……… ……… …..

    Southerner’s Answer:

    Click….. (Sounds of reloading)
    Daughter: ‘Nice grouping, Daddy!’
    ‘Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?! ‘
    Son: ‘Can I shoot the next one?!’
    Wife: ‘You ain’t taking that to the Taxidermist!

    • Another Bob

      “Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner”

      You really don’t have a solid connection to reality do you?

      Or is this what you see yourself doing?

      Besides, this is America, he’ll have a weapon (“gun” with apologies to my drill instructor) he just stole from your house after you left for your walk.

    • mark from

      Great job LMAO well done sir

  • Dave O

    Also, Remember what happened to the general population during Hurricane Katrina. The Police chaos was just one small problem. They also wanted our guns……

    • Another Bob

      Oh ya, the police.

      The one’s shooting people for “looting”. Read trying to find something to eat or drink after W, Brownie, and FEMA never showed up.

  • sideshowbob

    Sounds like Chief Dolan has become a Socialist. We are not Canada, we are the United States of America. Criminals aren’t going to get a gun license, more control by government will not help.

    • Another Bob

      Muders by firearms from most recent yearly data:

      USA – 9369
      Canada – 144

      What part of this do you not understand?

  • Jake

    This whole schtick was in the Strib yesterday. Blah, Blah, Blah. FIRST, when a big time gun-runner to Mexico only get 2 YEARS for smuggling over 100 guns and launders huge piles of cash, that’s a JOKE. Secondly, criminals get their hands on guns so fast it’s unbelievable. That loser who robbed a hotel near Hastings about a week ago had only been out of jail for a DAY or TWO, before he got a gun and did his dirty deed. LAWS didn’t stop him. Guns would be a much bigger deterent in this state if lawmakers changed the law to give LAWFUL gun owners more latitude in using their guns for self-defense, especially on the street. Police chiefs are political appointees, they are not elected like sheriffs are. I’ll bet that many, if not most, sheriffs in this state don’t share the same opinions as Chief Dolan. People who commit crimes with guns do NOT get the kinds of sentences that they deserve. Just watch what happens to those adolescent thugs who did the gang raping in Powderhorn park last Thanksgiving. They had a gun, possessed it and carried it illegally, and used it to threaten many innocent lives. They will get off easy though, just watch and see.

    • fred

      I carry, legally. After hearing stories like the Powderhorn one, and other stories of crimes committed with guns obtained illegally, sometimes I just wish one of these punks would pull a gun on me. I’d drop him faster than he could say, “gimme yo’s money, bro”. Let’s see if putting 7-8 slugs in him would deter his loser friends.

  • Fred

    It would be nice if a “professional” news writer could use proper grammar, especially in the first few sentences of the story… “He says there not after those who own guns legally”. Really? “There”? It’s “they’re”. Go back to 4th grade English class.

  • Stuck in mpls

    I have a novel Idea how about putting the guys commit crimes with guns and are caught with stolen guns behind bars for a long, long time!

    I had a brake in last summer and some guns were stolen. A neighbor saw the guys running from my house called police and reported were they went. The police got a warrant recovered most of my stuff. Both guys were felons the other had a long Juvenal record one was on probation. Neither received serious punishment even though I was pushing for it. Neither case was referred to the FEDS.. HMM what is wrong with this picture??

    These political police chiefs just want guns banned. Letting criminals go with just a slap on the hand is just and means to an end! Sorry I sound so cynical but this is because of my experience.

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