By Susie Jones

By Susie Jones, NewsRadio 830 WCCO

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — A Hennepin County judge has dismissed a lawsuit that sought to make gay marriage legal in Minnesota.

Judge Mary Dufresne rejected arguments by the group Marry Me Minnesota that the state’s 13-year-old Defense of Marriage Act violates same-sex couples’ rights to due process, equal protection, religious freedom and freedom of association.

The judge wrote in an order Monday that she’s bound by a 1971 Minnesota Supreme Court decision that says the Legislature has the power to limit marriage to one man and one woman.

OutFront Minnesota, a gay rights group, is disappointed but not surprised.

Phil Duran is legal director. He says while they agree with the group Marry Me Minnesota, that there should be marriage equality in the state, they differ on how to fix the problem.

“We are committed to working with the legislature, and the governor to achieve marriage equality in the state,” he said.

An appeal of the ruling is expected.

NewsRadio 830 WCCO’s Susie Jones Reports

Comments (83)
  1. TimP says:

    I’m not even gone for 3 months and look what your doing to my State…I mean er, your state.

  2. Mike says:

    We understand clearly Mark, bigotry is your value.

    1. MARK from says:

      @Mike, Let me ask you a question. What is the difference between my values and those of a gay couple? and please if you are going to come back with calling me a bigot save it, come up with a real reason

      1. Jon says:

        You’re an idiot, probably a close ‘gay’ too. What’s with you creepy religious guys?

        Oh, bet you think baby jesus is coming on Mar 22 too… right?

      2. Sunshine says:

        The difference is you are trying to impose values on someone else, when their actions won’t cause harm. And some hetero plan to NOT have children. Should they be allowed to get married? Since there isn’t a shortage of people on earth, I don’t feel we need to try to keep gay people from getting married just because they can’t have kids ‘naturally’. I doubt they would have a hetero relationship and procreate just because they can’t marry someone of the same sex.

      3. Mike says:

        Mark, Why is it that history proves that the most religious periods or ages have been the most bigoted and cruel? Why does intolerance flourish and brutality triumph in direct ratio to the increase of religion and the power and influence of the Church? .

  3. YoungerSmarterGenerations says:

    Equality for ALL. It’s only a matter of time 😉

    1. Phid says:

      “All” already have equality. Gay groups want an extra feature added on to marriage. Making this an issue of “equality” may sound nice, but it’s simply not true.

  4. Jon says:

    Your an idiot, probably a closet ‘gay’ too.

    1. MARK from says:

      Jon,, Maybe you should come up with something better than talking your hate for others and no respect for their beliefs, unless you hate others and hey thats your life.

      1. Lori says:

        Judge not……

      2. jon says:

        Stop trying to impose your wacky religious beliefs on everyone else. Its all a sham anyway.

        Hope jesus will take you away on March 22..LOL!


      3. Conegro says:

        did you read what you typed. What is your opinion based on?

        it seems that it is you who have no respect for others beliefs. Maybe it’s you that is spreading the gate.

        1. Michael says:

          I don’t know where you get the USA was Not built on God and religion. Our forefathers even added it to our Constitution. When they had added septation from state to church. It was not to protect the state from the church. But to protect the church from states. Just like the Bible everyone like to twist the truth. Without God none of us would be here. Very seen you will see they is a God. You will see him up close and personal. For every knee will bow and all will confess.That he is God almighty.

  5. Michael says:

    The foundational teaching on marriage and sexual issues is found in Genesis chapters 1 and 2. When Jesus was questioned about marriage, He referred to these 2 chapters (Matthew 19:1-12; Mark 10:1-12). Genesis teaches us that “male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:27). We were created to a plan, male and female complementing each other. That is, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, nor Madam and Eve.
    People are not born gay. If we go with your theory that people are born that way. Because of the feelings they have. Then you would also have to say that pedophiles ,adultery , drunkards murders, etc. are born that way also. This would excuse everyone for every sin or wrong they do.
    The Lord teaches us in the Bible that we all have sinned and come short of glory of God. Jesus Christ is the answer
    Romans 1:26-28 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    Matthew 19:4-6 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    1. MARK from says:

      Michael,, Well said

    2. Conegro says:

      Your argument is only valid if people believe in your religion, your beliefs, your bible and your “god”.

      Which I do not.

      1. Wayne says:

        So then based on you narrow minded remark then Michaels argument is viable because there ARE people who believe in the Bible and in an existing God that wasn’t created by man and doesn’t rely on “ME in the center of it all”. One day, non believers will see. I know I find total comfort in that and in being a believer.

      2. Kevinh1313 says:

        Belief in God and the Bible is not religion.

      3. Wayne says:

        Nope its not. I call it insurance and assurance. 😉

    3. Tom says:


      I will say this much for people like you if you didn’t have the religious reasons too back up your argument you wouldn’t have any argument at all. I really don’t understand why your type have a bee in their bonnet on this isse. U seem to say people can have rights just as long as they fall in line with yours and people like you. People like you seem too think you should be to decide who does and who doesnt get too walk down that aisle and tie the not. And you do that to in other situations as well. Its like your saying we have every right too stick our nose into other peoples business but you have no right to do it to us. And by the way i am catholic, but I am very liberal.

      1. josh says:

        then your not really Catholic

      2. MNTom says:

        very liberal, that explains everything, that is why this country is going to h3ll. because of all the liberals.

      3. Michael says:

        As far as the Bible goes and God. Its not religion its a way of life. I am sorry there is no religion going to get you into heaven.As far as my argument using the the Bible which is the Lords word. If you have a problem with what was said. Then you have a problem with the Lord Jesus Christ. For it is not my words but the Lords. Those that don’t believe in the Lord and his words have no hope. Also without the God, There would be no people. God is the creator . Sad man thinks they are greater then God now.

    4. Ron M says:

      Unless you want to have butt s_x with a young boy. Man you bible bumpers are sure wack-a-doodie!

      Freaky stuff there!

      1. Tom says:

        MN Tom

        You seem too forget what party was in charge from 2000 – 2006 and it was not the liberals.


        The only difference between me and you is that I am not afraid too think for myself where is people like you only do what your told and told what to think.

        But maybe the catholics should worry about cleaning up their own backyard before worrying about what others are doing.

    5. Alan says:

      Listen to what the Bible says. I agree Wayne and Michael. Well said Michael. The problem is people now don’t read, understand the bible.

      1. Tom says:


        What if someone told you what to do with your life whether it involved who you could marry or any other decisons?

        Then where does it say that a priest has the right too sexually abuse boys?

      2. Tom says:


        You are just proving my point. You can only back your argument up with religious reasoning. Why don’t you try backing up your argument without using relgious reasons. I don’t think you can do it.

        I will say this much though there some faiths who trying too expand their horizons by allowing gay pastors and such. I give them credit for trying.

    6. Wayne says:

      Its very sad that secular society walks around going “look what I did and look how much money I make and look at all the good things that have happened and I dont believe in God and there for I accomplished this all my self.” Whats nice is that even if they dont believe, its God that made those things possible. God works in everyone’s life no matter who they are. Its also sad that people actually believe that we cam from some species of monkey or a puddle of ooze. Just because we are human, a greater race and an intelligent race doesnt mean we do,will, or need to understand or fathom EVERYTHING. The truth is the Bible is the most accurate and scientifically supported historical text and that GOD WAS THE CREATOR.

  6. Minnesota Nice or ICE says:

    What a shame for the LGBT community in Minnesota. I could list many third world countries that have gay marriage rights. But not in Minnesota!

    1. Wayne says:

      What other horrible things do these countries have going on also? They must be governed by people that have a “Well we better pass that law so our people will be happy” mentality.

      1. Michele says:

        I believe those countries would be called “democracies,” Wayne, as opposed to the countries where the people AREN’T happy. And some of those are called “theocracies.”

    2. Lower Middle Class man says:

      Good – That may be why they are 3rd world countries

    3. MNTom says:

      then they can go to the 3rd world countries, do this country good with less liberals

  7. HeteroButLoveMyGays says:

    Mark, why is someone from a tax group getting involved with something that has nothing to do with taxes? Is it true that abortions and gay marriage are scarier to the average republican than raising the highest income tax brackets?

    1. MARK from says:

      You really don’t know about Republicans do you? If I understand you, there are no gays, or people that have had an abortion in the Republican Party? You must have went to a public school, I’m sorry.

      1. V says:

        what he said is that to Replublicans, every thing that is different it’s not good for society…. just like the Obama thing… it is not wrong that he is democrat, what is soooooo wrong for replublicans is the color of his skin! that is what really bugs them!

      2. HeteroButLoveMyGays says:

        Haha, when I was a teenager I was on the state board for the teenage republicans in my former state. That was until I discovered most of the people around me only cared about not letting gays get married, making sure abortions are illegal and of course, getting rid of the public school system 🙂 I prefer to contribute positively to the world. GIve it a try my friend.

    2. Wayne says:

      WOW if thats not a hypocritical statement I dont know what is. You left the state board for the teenage republicans because they had a problem with gays getting married, abortion, and the public school system and you say its because you want to do something “positive”. Id hate to see what your “positive” is. Let me guess illegal abortion is taking away woman’s rights? Watch this and then tell me your ok with abortion…

      I went to a public school and have a step son who attends the same school and I have seen what it has done to many children along the way so I will agree and say that it needs to change and improve but taken away might be far. How often do you hear about private/christian schools that have drug/violence/crime problems?

      1. Tom says:


        Apparently you have not heard about the two assaults that happened at Gustavus the last couple of days on the news. And for you too claim that kids who go to private school come out perfect keep telling yourself that. People who truly believe that their kids tell them everything that they are doing live in a fantasy land. As far as abortions go that decision is between the woman and her dr. It’s nobody else’s business. What if the shoe was on other foot and someone tried to come between you and your dr about a medical decision? I don’t think you would like it.

      2. Conegro says:

        the problems in private schools are the as in public schols. The difference is private schools are not required to report our children to the “proper authorities” every time they “step out of line”.

        I will not get into abortion. Sooner or later people will want to outlaw evey form of birth control.

      3. Wayne says:

        Oh did I say “perfect”? Hmm cant find where I said that, oh well what I meant was “better off”. Public schools have been stripped of anything and everything involving God and then the schools expect ALL kids to have some kind of decent moral compass and to not have them get involved in things parents would not want them involved in. So Tom, whats stopping me (or anyone for that matter) coming out and putting a bullet in your head? that would be OK right I mean after all your saying murder is OK.

  8. Wayne says:

    WOW…..Really??? OK lets look at this in the right light. This isn’t a “Well that’s not fair if strait people can get married and gays cant” argument. Sure that’s what it has turned into but lets set the 5th grade attitude aside and look at what it REALLY is. First off there was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Adam was created first and Eve created after. A woman has that parts she has for a reason just like a man has his special parts for a reason. Its called “PROCREATION”, you know the ability to make babies. Sure gay families have and can adopt and that has huge benefits all by itself. Don’t think that this is a hate message, its not. I have 2 gays friends and as friends I love them dearly, but I also understand and know that being gay is not “how I was born” and that the choice to be gay is also a sin. This whole thing has become a lot like a “Well Im white and your black” sort of argument and its not that at all. Sure some of you are thinking “Well love is blind” or “love has no boundary’s” You sure about that? I just got married last weekend and since love is blind and/or has no boundary’s I could commit an affair and I can use that as my reason for doing it? In the end you have made the decision to be gay and there for you should be willing to take everything that comes with such as the health risks and the legalities of wanting to marry your same sex partner.

    1. N.F. says:

      So, EXACTLY how is being gay a “choice” as you call it? Don’t you think that if I were to have the “choice” of not being gay that I wouldn’t be just so I wouldn’t have to sit here and read comments like this and read people saying that it’s a “choice”! My life would be so much better if I had the option of waking up one day, saying “i’m straight” and just going about my life! But I don’t have that option so therefore I have to deal with the small minded comments that people make.

      1. Wayne says:

        SO your going to tell me that your entire life you have NEVER had an attraction for a female, NEVER had a dream about one, NEVER even had maybe a little crush on one in the elementary school days? Besides if being gay wasn’t a choice and is something by birth than maybe that’s the next big thing the medical industry should look into curing. Obviously it would then be ruled as a defect of sorts.

    2. Superchik1017 says:

      Hi Wayne,
      It is very clear you are passionate about the issue. However, since this is a free country and freedom of religion is written in the Constitution, let’s take religion out of the argument for a minute. There is no scientific reason gay’s should not be able to marry and enjoy all the benefits and responsibilities you and your new wife have so graciously received – without lifting a finger – simply because you were born straight. Tell me Wayne, so what makes you think that a person would “choose” to be gay? Would you be able to “choose” to be gay? I highly doubt it – am I right? This isn’t a choice and it’s not a “lifestyle.”
      So, back to your religous argument: I don’t recall reading about Jesus calling anyone a horrible slur or trying to lobby to pass laws againts adultery. Jesus was NOT a politician and I think he made that choice on purpose. Why don’t you stop listening to what the Biblies says, Wayne and really ask yourself, “What would JESUS do?”.
      Have a blessed day – and congrats and the new tax benefits that so many gay’s don’t get to enjoy!

      1. Matt says:

        I sit on the right side of the fence politically but HATE the GOP’s stance that gay marriage isn’t acceptable as a policy because it is against their religion. So to that SuperChik I agree with you, we should take religion out of it.

        The problem that EVERYONE fails to see is marriage is religious and should have absolutely no place in politics. There should be no tax breaks for or against married people, everything should be equal.

        The problem with that is that marriage is in the best interest of the government because marriage (at least in the classical sense) meant children, children meant taxes and more importantly the ability to sustain ponzi scheme’s like Social Security which is based on an ever growing workforce.

        I am happy that the judge maintained the ruling as this is an issue that should be decided in the legislator, not in the courts, however I have very little “faith” that either political party will ever get this right.

        1. Eliminate any government association with marrige
        2. Let people do whatever they want, just leave me alone.

      2. Wayne says:

        I WILL never stop listening to what the Bible says. This country was even found on old testament laws and we have strayed so far away from them and look at it now. As far as what would Jesus do….well Jesus like his father loves everyone despite their situation. Sure I have a decision to be strait just as much as I could be gay. I have had 3 gay men, 2 of which are friends of mine, hit on me and one of them openly admitted he was flirting with me and I told him noting would happen. Well he was slightly disappointed but to me that sounds like a decision that was made not just on his part to continue the lifestyle but for me to continue mine. As far as MY wife and I go shes got two kids, one of which almost killed her and both of which probably shouldn’t be alive due to the other 5 she miscarried. I dont have any kids of my own and have always wanted them. Needless to say she is unable to bare children and more so you cant say its “Without lifting a finger” It has taken sacrifice and loss on both out parts. As for not committing adultery… Will this one work? (Exodus 20:14) 14 “You shall not commit adultery. I could find many more if you really want. Just because its not governed by police doesnt mean its right or OK.

      3. Conegro says:

        Wayne, this country was not founded on religious laws. The Constitution clearly separates church and state. Many of the founders of this country were anti-religion.

      4. MARK from says:

        @SUPERCHICKIE Religion is part of this DA

    3. Tom says:


      Then should straigt couples be forced too have babies whether they want to or not?

      1. Wayne says:

        Its not JUST about the babies thing. Tell me that man was meant to be with another man and that woman was meant to be with another woman? Plain and simple. Like I said this whole topic has become ah “We are people to and deserve our rights as human people just like all of you have” The problem with that is it has NOTHING to do with denying rights to gays because they are human or people. It has to do with the morality of it and that it is not what a marriage is. In the Bible woman was meant to be mans help meat. I dont recall anywhere it mentioning that same sex relationships was ok, natural, and should be seeing as OK. Matter a fact it says quite the opposite.

    4. Tom says:


      For you too claim that kids are better off going too private school rather than a public school is not true. And if you basing your argument on Morals and Values that is the farthest thing from the truth. There is big differnce between having your kids learn “everything” rather than just have them learn “certain” things. There is a big differnce between teaching them something based on “fact” than teaching them something based ” personal beliefs”. People tend too send their kids too private schools so that they control what their kids learn. And to say that kids that go to private school develop better morals and values that is funny. If parents who send their kids too private school believe that their kids are telling them everything that they are doing then those parents need a reality check.

      1. wayne says:

        Really??? They wouldn’t be better off? Lets compare statistics to the drop out rate, teen violence, drug/alcohol abuse, crime, attendance, etc. of public vs. private and see which one comes out a head. I’m not saying EVERY student that goes to a public school is going to be a drop out or a drug user or any of that. There are a few rising stars that come out doing very well but I would argue that the majority of the school population would fit into one of the categories I have mentioned if not a multiple of them. Just because the kids go to a public school doesn’t mean they will learn EVERYTHING or even MORE than a kids who goes to a private school. Kids will learn what they can no matter how much you drowned them in knowledge. Not to mention that the material I have seen in a local private school are just as good as their public school counterpart. For your “fact” and “personal belief” argument. That’s garbage. Here are some interesting FACTS since you like that so much…

        FACT: Homer’s Iliad is a very old and if I recall is based off of only 7 manuscripts.

        FACT: Plato was quite a writer in his day and we know this based on manuscripts which is not very many.

        FACT: The Bible is scientifically the oldest most accurate book which comes from REAL manuscripts which total around 5,700 and thats just complete ones. If your any kind of “intelligent” being and are basing what YOU believe in historically on things that are far less supported scientifically then I suggest that you do the research and look deep to where the truth really is.

        For your other argument with control its funny you didn’t seem to think that maybe the parents want their kids to go to a school where teachers actually CARE about their students and their success along with the environment in which they are in and what they DON’T want their kids exposed to.

  9. captainobvious says:

    Geez i supposed next your going to tell me gays are people also, I really dont care if two meat smokers marry I just dont want to hear about it

  10. 2 cents says:

    It’s funny that because some people believe certain things are WRONG that they, become the target of ” enlightened ” peoples hatred. You know the same people that call people with different beliefs than theirs hateful . WHY can they not see they are the definition of Hypocrite. kind of like our Gov. and his money ( but thats anther story ). I have NO problem with Gays having a civil union Just don’t call it married. words mean things. and marriage is a word that come from a religious ceremony . Jon would like to marry your cow, horse , 14 year old sister ? you see those things are not right either and thats is why they are not legal .

    1. Superchik1017 says:

      They are not legal because a cow, horse and my 14 year old sister are not legal, consending, tax-paying adults.

    2. Tom says:

      2 cents

      Not everybody chooses too get married in a church in front of a priest. Some choose too get married in city hall in front of a judge. Marriage has nothing to do with religion. It only involves religion if you choose it to be.

  11. Jeffrey Samide says:

    I think gays should to have the right to be equally as miserable as straight people in marriage.

    1. Tom says:

      Jeffrey Samide

      Thats Funny! I got a good laugh!

  12. Who cares says:

    I dont care let them

  13. Jackie L says:

    A gay man or a gay woman should not have to pretend that they are attracted to the opposite sex. They should also not have to live in shame or fear. The have blood that runs red they have hearts that beat just like the rest of us. Being gay is NOT a choice. it’s just who they are. I have many gay friends and they are no different than my friends that are str8. everyone should be allowed to be with the one they love. what year is thins ans when is the hatred going to stop. race creed color size and sexual preference shouldnt even be an issue these days…… TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.

  14. Sunshine says:

    If you don’t agree with gay marriage, don’t marry someone of the same sex. Why try to keep other people from marrying the person they want? The bible isn’t a valid reason to deny it because a religion’s teaching only applies to the people that believe in that religion. Marriage isn’t a word defined by (one of the many) church(es). It has legal implications. Civil Union doesn’t have the legal equality of marriage. The same as a religious ceremony doesn’t automatically have legal status.

  15. Bob says:

    Vary good Lori, but we all will be judged and not by man.

  16. HWG says:

    Eventually there will be help for the people with gay effective disorder. The medical community has done wonders for other mental stability illness such as Schizophrenia and Bi Polar disease. Eventually they will come up with help for this illness

    1. Wayne says:

      TRUE DAT. Starting to be like a cancer.

  17. Wayne says:

    If hes coming on March 22 then you already know more than I do. Plus its 9 days after my birthday so it would be pretty cool. But its all good because God loves even those who dont believe in him.

  18. chimp says:

    I guess if i swallowed bags for a living id care but im human so i don’t.

    1. Wayne says:

      Well as a human living in a country you should care very much about the environment you live in one way or another.

  19. Matt says:

    Why does government recognize marriage in the first place? Are we all not citizens created equally?

    This country was absolutely founded on christian beliefs, but the founders were smart enough to draw a FIRM line between values and laws.

    That is why you will not find any mention of marriage in the constitution.

    1. Always in favor of less government says:

      Agree. Marriage is a religious institution and if we have separation of church and state then the government should stay out of all marriage. Gay or straight.

    2. Conegro says:

      this country was not founded on religious beliefs. That is clearly laid out in the constitution.

      the founders were smart enough to put sepaation of church and state in the constitution.

  20. Victim Du Jour says:

    Judges don’t have the power to make public policy.

  21. MARK from says:


  22. Tony says:

    I myself believe in the constitution and that this country was founded on the principals that ALL men are created equal. Black, White, brown, red, yellow, male, female. Everyone is offered the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Nowhere in the bill of rights, can anyone who opposes Same Sex Marriage, show me how two guys or two gals getting married violates THEIR individual pursuit of life liberty or the pursuit of happiness. In other words… if my uncle wants to marry another guy, how does THAT affect you? It doesn’t.

  23. Michele says:

    I’m sorry to those who are affected by this court decision, and that I’m sorry that you have to deal every day with people who want to make you feel less than you are, such as the filth going on here. Please believe, there are more of us than you would think who believe that you are a creation of God, that you are loved by God, and that you have a right to freedom of choice and dignity as granted in our Constitution.

    Stay strong.

  24. Loren says:

    I am Catholic, but I generally don’t use religion to support my arguments. It causes the condescending God-haters to immediately dismiss me. Generally along with ad hominem attacks. It isn’t about gays for me, it is simply about marriage. Marriage is a Catholic sacrament, but it existed long before it became one. Marriage was created for property rights and inheritance. That being said, the Church is fine to bless this union. Nothing wrong with that, as long as its rules are followed. Membership in any organization has requirements. This union has been between a man and a woman for thousands of years. There is no need to change the tradition. This isn’t an equal protection issue. Gay people can get basically everything that a married couple has. States and companies offer same-sex benefits, something that a man and woman living together don’t seem to get. Anything that a gay couple needs can be provided for with contract law. The one thing they don’t get is the word “marriage”. This is way more about power over others than about equality. Everybody deserves to be loved, gays included, and I wish them all the best in their lives. However, this doesn’t give them the right to change the definition of marriage. If separate but equal is okay for Title IX, then it is okay for domestic partnerships. I do not view this as an attack on gay people. I have gay friends and gay family members in committed relationships. They deserve happiness. Some say that gay marriage will lead to legalizing polygamy, etc. It is not equating one with the other, but it is a valid logical argument. I am not afraid of gay marriage, but there is no compelling reason to change the definition of marriage. Call it what you want, just not marriage. You may disagree, but if you attack me for this position then you really aren’t as smart or tolerant as you think you are.

  25. Michele says:

    Okay, Michael, I have had enough. Unless you are a Quaker or a Shaker, the people who fled to this continent to avoid religious persecution were running from YOUR religion’s prosecution. Stop hiding behind that.

    And for heaven’s sake, God gave you a brain. Learn to spell! Learn grammar! The writers of the Bible used proper grammar; are you that much more superior? What kind of education did you have, anyway?

    You are going to offend God’s ears with your speech! Do you think that’s not important? The Tower of Babel, Michael, the Tower of Babel!

    1. Michael says:

      For heaven sakes. LOL God is feed up with people and there sin. Japan Earthquake is one more warning the lord is feed up. we have become worst then Sodom and Gomorrah.
      Matthew 24:7 (King James Version)

      For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
      I have also learned when someone start attacking ones spelling and grammar etc., They have nothing else because they know they are wrong.
      Its funny how many people say they believe the Lord but yet don’t know him, or his word. Most of what I post was straight from the Bible. If people have a problem with what the Lord has said in the Bible. Then they need take it up with the Lord. ALL KNEES WILL BOW AND ALL TONGUES WILL CONFESS HE IS LORD.
      King James Bible
      For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
      King James Version (KJV)
      Philippians – Chapter 2
      Phl 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth;
      Phl 2:11 And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

      1. Wayne says:

        Nothing more can be said to this other than AMEN!!!

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