Minn. Muslims, Somalis Watch Terrorism Hearing

WASHINGTON (AP) — A congressional panel investigating homegrown terrorism in America displayed sharp divisions Thursday over how to frame the discussion, reflecting a country still struggling with how best to combat terrorism nearly a decade after the Sept. 11 attacks.

Homegrown terrorism is on the rise in the United States, and al-Qaida has built a strategy around inspiring young American Muslims to become one-man terrorist cells. That strategy has at times been successful, and the U.S. government has wrestled with finding a consistent plan to combat it.

Rep. Peter King, the New York Republican who called the hearing, says the American Muslim community is not doing enough to speak out against terrorism and is reluctant to help police. The Obama administration worries that broad statements about an entire religion only play into al-Qaida’s narrative that the U.S. is at war with Islam.

After a week of protests leading up to the hearing, King dismissed what he called unwarranted “rage and hysteria” and said Congress has a duty to press forward.

“Homegrown radicalization is part of al-Qaida’s strategy to continue attacking the United States,” King said as he opened the hearings.

The top Democrat on the committee, Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, said he believes the hearings could be used to inspire terrorists.

“I cannot help but wonder how propaganda about this hearing’s focus on the American Muslim Community will be used by those who seek to inspire a new generation of suicide bombers,” Thompson said.

Despite years government focus on terrorism, there is no one predictable path toward violence. Homegrown terrorists have been high school dropouts and college graduates as well, people from poor and wealthy families alike. Some studied overseas. Others were inspired over the Internet.

That has complicated government efforts to understand and head off the radicalization process. And it reduced some of Thursday’s debate to a series of anecdotes: of Islamic terrorists on the one hand, and Islamic firefighters on the other.

King told The Associated Press that he had larger security details for the past few months because of an overseas threat relayed in December. Since then, round-the-clock security has been provided by the New York Police Department and the Nassau County, N.Y., police.

On Thursday, at King’s request, the Capitol Police secured the congressional hearing room and surrounding areas, as well as his office.

Rarely does a congressional hearing attract as much advance controversy. Critics have likened them to the McCarthy-era hearings investigating communism.

The witnesses included family members of young men who were inspired by others to go into terrorism, with deadly consequences. They told Congress that the young men were brainwashed by radical elements in the Muslim community.

Melvin Bledsoe, whose son, Carlos, is charged with killing an Army private at a recruiting station in Little Rock, Ark., testified about his son’s conversion to Islam and his isolation from his family.

“Carlos was captured by people best described as hunters,” Bledsoe said. “He was manipulated and lied to.”

Elsewhere at the Capitol, National Intelligence Director James Clapper was scheduled to address the threat of homegrown terrorism. In his prepared remarks, Clapper said 2010 saw more plots involving homegrown Sunni extremists — those ideologically aligned with al-Qaida — than in the previous year.

“Key to this trend has been the development of a U.S.-specific narrative that motivates individuals to violence,” Clapper said.

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  • Sick

    Agree, they are doing nothing to help this country. Committing crime, thinking every American should bow down to their Muslim ways and living off welfare, then having 15 kids that will go on welfare.

    • Really?

      Totally! No other religion thinks everyone should bow down to their ways and no other type of American live off of welfare or commit crimes. Oh wait…

      • Go back to Africa

        And they are really ugly and smell bad

  • Tom

    why do we keep supporting these people, we don’t even take care of or own, something is wrong here

    • FARIDE12

      Because this countryWON’T said NO to them and the social services keep bringing them here and we support them , and do you know they all get $ 1200 dollars a piece when they arrive here that is why they always bring all of their family , grand kids nieces and newphews,

  • Jon

    Wow, I see the bigots have flocked to this story already. You people make me ashamed to live in Minnesota.

    • Bill

      Last time I checked, you’re free to leave any time

      • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

        well said Bill

      • Bill

        and when you go, take that cry baby ellison with you – you two complete each other!

        • Jon

          Does posting this kind of garbage make you feel better? Who are you trying to convince with this?

          I think I’ll stay, thanks. If you don’t like Somalis, why don’t you move? (See, it’s easy to post stupid junk like this, any idiot can do it.)

          • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

            still don’t get it do you Joan? Thats OK

            • Jon

              Really? That’s the best you can do? You’ve got nothing other than name calling and fear. That’s OK. In fact it’s great for rational people who see right through your hatred.

      • Jon

        There are bigots everywhere, Bill, unfortunately. Fewer here than most places, I would guess, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t make me ashamed.

  • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

    OH Jon did we hurt your feelings? Maybe you can talk about that next time your in your mens group. You whimp!

    • Jon

      Bigots like you and Sick always hurt my feelings, yes. And it’s spelled “wimp.”

      • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

        Jon, I spelled it that way for a reason, DA!

      • Jon

        Yeah, I’m sure you did… This has been a really informative debate, thanks.

  • Tired

    sorry Jon If you are a white male go to your local human services and see if you can get any help. You can be starving and no place to live and you will never get any help. If you are an illegal somilian you will get everything handed to you with no questions ask. Then go to your local Social Security office and see how many are collection your S.S. that you have paid into. If you are in your 40’s you will have none because they are all collecting it.

    • Jon

      I doubt that this is true, but as a fully employed adult who is not intimidated by scary poor people, I don’t really know how these services work.

      As a person in his 30s I don’t expect to collect social security when I retire, but that’s because of the baby boomers sucking it dry and not because of lawful immigrants to our country. People here illegally obviously shouldn’t be allowed to collect benefits from our government.

      • M B

        As much as I wish this wasn’t the case, it is true in some cases. My mother worked for one of our local counties before she died and she often related stories of Somalians barging in and demanding the money they deserve.
        It was like they got here thinking they were entitled to payouts. The governments then validated it by giving them money.

        I’m not saying they all were like this, but it happened often enough to make my mother greatly concerned.

        When new import refugees get more bennies than born-here Americans, I get greatly discouraged. I firmly believe that NO non-American should get ANY benefits from the government, especially if they seem to think they’re entitled to it without actually contributing to society.

      • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

        Jon, You don’t know much about political economics do you? Thats OK, admitting you have a problem is the first step.

      • Jon

        So educate me. Your lame one-liners aren’t helping.

  • fitswell

    so go live with them in there country then if you think it is so good!!

    • Jon

      Can you point me to where someone wrote that Somalia is a good place to live? Thanks.

      • Gary Lee

        Well, some parts of Somalia do have some advantages depending on your political philosophy. Large parts of it have no government, no taxes, no gun control laws, no public schools, no unions, no environmental laws, no restrictive building codes, no product safety rules, and no to a lot of other things which really, really irritate some people who want the government off their backs. They also have plenty of guns, drugs, and opportunities for those who want to prove their macho by attacking something, pretty much anything which floats by. Oh, and no welfare system with other people taking your hard earneed money through taxes and giving it to someone else. There are a few people there who will take your money the old fashioned way, by killing you and taking whatever they want, but you can take care of that by having a bigger gun than they do, right?

        And great beachfront views!

  • somali with 15 kids


    If you are ashamed to live here, go ahead and move. I am sure that you won’t be missed.

  • Republican


    peace. love. empathy.

  • Charles

    Yes Jon, Any idiot can do it you’ve done a number of times now.

    I just coiped the mussy Keith Muhammad crying, Being in Somali Town myself on the west side I can’t wait for a berka law here. Jon if you and K. Muhammad are ASShamed give each other a hug and then kiss the floor before leaving. Head east!

    By the way Jon is a Jewish name, And they want to kill you!

    “Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another.”

    • Jon

      Who is “they?”

      • Charles


        Maybe you should read the Koran a bit. Don’t ever try and tell me or anyone that that is a book of Peace!

  • Republican '57

    hey gentlemen,

    peace. love. empathy.

  • Annie Johnson

    This is so sick. We have Mr. Ellison weeping on the front page of the Trib because one Muslim died on 9/11. Excuse me. Seems it was 3000 Americans last count. Weep on.

    • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

      well said Annie

    • Charles

      This is me CLAPPING behind you Statement!

    • Gary Lee

      Actually, it was 2,669 Americans and 372 other nationalities, not counting the terrorists themselves. Also, if I remember correctly, there were several dozen Muslims among the victims. However, I don’t think any of those in the buildings, American or not, Christian, Muslim or otherwise should be forgotten.

  • Jon

    I see someone has resorted to posting a Nazi symbol under my name. Nice. Stay classy, guys.

  • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

    @Joan, That’s all I can do for you!

    • Jon


  • Charles

    Mulism don’t like Gay guys either Jon!

    • Really?

      Neither do Catholics/Christians.

      • Charles

        No catholics and christians don’t care!

        However you can’t be a practicing gay. We wont Stone you to death for it!

        • Jon

          Tell that to Fred Phelps. He’s a Christian and so are you, so by the logic of the posters here, you must agree with him. Right?

          • Charles

            No you moron! I go by the Bible not a cult! These people go by the koran which starts the CULT process.

            You need to look at facts, and History of when their part of the book was writen.

            The first part of the koran, Tora and Bible are the same! Its when you had

            Jesus and the new Test you get a Christian. Matthew 5:38, 39: “YOU heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ [v39] However, I say to YOU: Do not resist him that is wicked; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.”

            Jews BELIEVE in Jesus as well, They don’t deny him. However they DON”T think he is the Son of God.

            Mulisms have Mohammed, His book was writen some 5-600 years after he DIED! and everyother sentence is HATE! Qur’an 47:4 “Strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; and after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.”

            Huh Huh HUH

            • BSchra

              Charles, based off of your comments I take it your a Christian. However, based off of your comments, I would say you’re not a very good Christian. Where does Jesus or God say it’s ok for you to say these things to another person? To anyone? You have a lot of hate in your heart and I pray to Jesus that he can help you.

              P.S. Muslims also believe in Jesus. Same as Jews, he was a prophet not the Son of God.

              • Charles

                Maybe you should read all my post because I’ve said that. You are more than welcome to your opinon.

                P.S. Muslims also believe in Jesus. Same as Jews, he was a prophet not the Son of God.

            • Jon

              Starting an argument with “you moron” is such a great debate technique. Kudos.

              You believe that your religion is the right one, just like 6 billion other people on the planet. Congratulations. That doesn’t change my opinion that people from Somalia who have come here legally should be treated with respect as fellow human beings. A very radical idea, I know.

              • Charles

                You can’t debate! I proved you wrong!


                Tell that to Fred Phelps. He’s a Christian and so are you, so by the logic of the posters here, you must agree with him. Right?”

                NO YOU MORON!

                • Jon

                  You mad? Keep calling me a moron, you’ve almost convinced me!

                  You proved me wrong? LOL. Since Muslims all think alike, according to you, why not Christians as well? Quoting a bunch of passages from holy books that I’m not going to read anyway is not proof of anything whatsoever.

                • Charles

                  That right there is why you will never learn! So you are basing you OPINON on things you KNOW NOTHING about because you won’t educate yourself on the FACTS! You SIR ARE A MORON!

                  noun 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment

                  Its right from the Koran.

                  As a Christian I hope they find Jesus & turn from the dark side.

                • Jon

                  I base my opinions on the actions of people, not some ancient book that I could care less about.

                  “Some Muslims are evil and want to kill me. Other Muslims are not evil and don’t want to kill me.” Do you disagree with either of those statements?

                  And seriously, a bit of honest advice here. A person with grammar as bad as yours who resorts to calling others “morons” all the time comes off looking like a complete fool.

                • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

                  I’m sorry Jon if I hurt your feelings, maybe you should take a walk to mamby pamby land so you can talk about those feelings to someone who cares more than I do.

                • Jon

                  Yeah, MARK from the Internet hurt my feelings. LOL

                • Charles

                  Just you Jon!

                  Tell you what. I’m going to give you my opinon on nuclear space propulsion. Something I’ve read nothing about but watch people that do and look like you.

                  Fool, No the fool is a person having poor judgment or little intelligence. I know nothing of NSP so I’ll keep my mouth shut!

                  You should try it.

                • Jon

                  You lost me here, friend.

                  Are you saying I can have no opinion of Muslims because I haven’t read the Koran? I think that’s BS, personally.

                • Charles

                  If you know nothing of the religion except people walking down the street?

                  Yes that is what I’m saying. You can have no opinon.

                • Jon

                  I know a couple Muslims personally. Just a couple, so I’m no authority. But I know for a fact that they don’t want to kill me. They’ve had plenty of opportunity over the past eight years. They seem like completely normal people to me, just like everyone else on the block, except for their clothes.

                  Should I deny what I see everyday because of what it says in a book written 1000 years ago? I know that some Muslims are crazy and read the Koran literally and want to kill me. I just realize that not all of them feel that way, and that’s all I’ve tried to express here.

                • Charles

                  All MUSSIES are crazy. ALL

                  its a David Koresh, Jim Jones, “DO” type.

                  They (Somalies) also sew the viginas shut of virgins and pregnant women!

                  I can only assume other insecure Mussy cultures do as well.

                • Jon

                  You brought up two crazy Christians to prove your point that Muslims are crazy? Huh? Want to try that again?

                  So since SOME Muslims in Somalia practice genital mutilation, then it must be true that ALL Muslims around the world also do this? That’s what your point is?

                • Jon

                  Nice racist post here, Charles. You suck. Enjoy stewing in your own hate, I wish you the worst.

                • Charles

                  LOL oh Janathan its ok. If you don’t know who “DO” is thats your issue.

                  No race thing about it!

                  Janathan has gotten mad now and is telling MOM! lol

              • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

                Never said mine was right?

              • Jon

                Where did you read the Secret Muslim Plan to Take Over the World by Overpopulation? I’d like to read it too.

                • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

                  Joan, I thought you gave up crack, you are all over the place? Put the pipe down son.

                • Jon


    • Jon

      Yes, because all Muslims think alike, obviously. Like all Christians think alike.

      I’m against bigotry, whether it’s perpetrated by Muslims, Christians, or anyone else.

      • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

        Joan, When will you learn? How sad to see you like this.

        • Jon

          Another deep thought from MARK. Keep it coming. And I’m enjoying the pictures you’re posting in my name. Very nice. Who’s that last one? It looks like Col. Sanders…

          • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

            Sorry Joan, I wouldn’t do that, but I have enjoyed myself at your expense today, so thank you.

            • Jon

              Out of funny pictures to post?

  • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

    Joan, did you have to do that?

  • America w/ NO SOMALIS = FREEE

    Jon if you are SOMALI please do all of us a favor and go back to the TRIBE or JUNGLE where you came from and please take all of your people ,.,,

    • Jon

      No thanks. Great advice though.

  • Charles

    This is just a few!

    Qur’an 9:123 “murder them and treat them harshly”
    Qur’an 3.28 Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.
    NOTE: By ‘guarding carefully’, a Muslim should deceive the infidel. Acting as a friend is fine as long as it is to benefit the Muslim and protect Islam.

    Qur’an 3:56 “As for those disbelieving infidels, I will punish them with a terrible agony in this world and the next. They have no one to help or save them.”

    Qur’an 4.89 They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

    Qur’an 5:51 “Muslims, do not make friends with any but your own people.”

    Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who say; ‘God is the Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.”

    Qur’an 8:12 cp. 8:60 “Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers”; “smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them”

    Qur’an 2:191 “…kill the disbelievers wherever we find them”

    Qur’an 9.33 He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions.

    Qur’an 2:193 “And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah”

    Qur’an 8:71 And if they intend to act unfaithfully towards you, so indeed they acted unfaithfully towards Allah before, but He GAVE YOU MASTERY OVER THEM

    Qur’an 8:55 Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve.

    Qur’an 22:19-22 “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem” “for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods”

    Qur’an 48:13 Those who “believe not in Allah and His Messenger, He has prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!”

    Qur’an 3:54 “‘Lord, we believe in Your revelations (the Torah and Gospels) and follow this Apostle (Jesus). Enroll us among the witnesses.’ But the Christians contrived a plot and Allah did the same; but Allah’s plot was the best.”

    Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.”

    Qur’an 8:58 “If you apprehend treachery from any group on the part of a people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations) with them. The infidels should not think they can bypass (Islamic law or the punishment of Allah). Surely they cannot escape.”

    Qur’an 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels (non-Muslims) out to the last.’”

    Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”

    Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah’s enemy.”

    Qur’an 8:60 “Prepare against them (non-Muslims) whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah (non-Muslims), and others besides them not known to you. Whatever you spend in Allah’s Cause will be repaid in full, and no wrong will be done to you.”

    Qur’an 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels (non-Muslims) out to the last.’”

    Qur’an 4:101 “The unbelievers (non-Muslims) are your inveterate foe.”

    Qur’an 8:60 “Prepare against them (non-Muslims) whatever arms and cavalry you can muster that you may strike terror in the enemies of Allah (non-Muslims), and others besides them not known to you. Whatever you spend in Allah’s Cause will be repaid in full, and no wrong will be done to you.”

    Bukhari:V4B56N814 “There was a Christian who embraced Islam and he used to write the revelations for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again he used to say: ‘Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him.’”

    Qur’an 9.28 O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque (Mecca) after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.
    NOTE: In 631 A.D. (less than one year before his death, Muhammad had a revelation. No infidels allowed into Mecca (9:28). This also included the idolators, i.e., the orginal rock worshippers of the Kabaa who had not submitted to Islam. They were history, what few were left by this time.

    Qur’an 9.29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    Qur’an 9.30 And the Jews say: Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

    Qur’an 47:4 “Strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; and after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.”

    Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985) Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
    The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

    Hadith Sahih Bukhari (4:52:176) Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:
    Allah’s Apostle said, “You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, ‘O ‘Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.’ “

    Hadith Sahih Bukhari (4:52:177) Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

    Hadith Sahih Bukhari (4:56:791) Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:
    I heard Allah’s Apostle saying, “The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!’ “

    Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6981) Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
    You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

    Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6982) Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
    “There is a Jew behind me.”

    Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6983) Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
    You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

    Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6984) Abdullah b. ‘Umar reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
    The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

    Hadith Sahih Muslim (41:6985) Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
    The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

    Bukhari:V9B84N59 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: “None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.” Whoever says this will save his property and his life from me.’”

    • MARK from mntaxwaste.com


      • Charles

        Thanks, I’m checking out the website as well!

    • Jon

      You post this as if I’ve been arguing that Islam is a religion of peace, or something. I could care less about the Koran. I don’t think all Muslims are evil just like I don’t think all Christians are evil. That’s it.

      • Charles

        If you follow the Koran, then you are evil. or leave!

        If you don’t want 10 wives in Utah don’t be a CLDS
        If you don’t want to protest a funeral, Don’t go to a church in KS.

        If you do want to be Evil, follow and pray with the Koran,
        want 10 wives move to Utah
        want to protest, church is in KS.

        Quacks like a duck is not a chickadee! its a DUCK!

  • MARK from mntaxwaste.com

    Sharia Law, If your female shut your mouth and cover your face, if your gay you get stoned to death, have an affair on your husband mercy killing, or loose your nose These nut jobs need to go

  • Alla

    Don’t forget Friday is National draw a picture of me Day.

  • Interesting

    Saying Muslims are bleeding our welfare system dry, they hate everyone, calling Muslims “them” and “they,” that’s not right and you all know it. Hasn’t history taught us that these are not the things to say? I know Mulsims and they’re good people and Islam does not teach hate or violence, it teaches what most other religions try to teach and that’s to try to be a good person and follow whichever god(s) you believe in. Except there are those who give it any religion a bad rap. Don’t let your mind be clouded by the actions of a few extremist. I’m Catholic and there are definately other Catholics/Christians who make me not so proud to be so (why can’t I as a woman be a priest, why can’t my gay friends who love each other marry, why are members of my religion protesting soliders funerals, what was up with the Crusades, etc?).

    3000 Americans died on 9/11. It says nothing of their ethnic, cultural or religious background. If you are here legally, you are my American brother/sister, and just like most families, we might not get agree all the time, but it’s up to us to solve this disagreements civilly. Not with name calling or ill-inforrmed statements. Maybe it’s the hate I’ve seen on this page that’s driving people to extremism.

    Also, let’s remember that most of the hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, the most extreme of the Muslim countries. If you really want to put a country to it, Somalia has nothing on them.

    • Jon

      Interesting, thanks for this post. It’s nice to see a little common sense here instead of mouth-foaming hate.

    • Charles

      Maybe you should read the Koran as well! and then tell me what it teaches!

      Remember thats their/they/them bible?

      9/11 has nothing to do with it! except the K. Muhammad brought it up to get attention.

      • Jon

        Every Muslim on the planet does not follow the Koran literally. How hard is that to understand.

        Do you follow the bible literally?

  • Mohammad

    Don’t forget to draw my picture today and show your friends

  • Kevin

    They should all watch the hearings from back in Africa! Watch Europe and get a clue!!!

  • Unimpressed

    Gosh, you all seem like such a warm, wholesome, loving bunch of people, I have no idea why anyone would want to kill you.

    Remember that pasty white Christians like Timothy McVeigh are terrorists too.

    • Charles

      Timmy was a sick boy!

      There are others.

      • Jon

        So when a Christian is a terrorist, he’s simply a “sick boy” and not reflective of Christianity as a whole, but when a Muslim blows something up, all Muslims are evil. Got it.

  • Charles

    The funny thing Jonathan is thus.

    You complain about people using one liners. It has been you that can’t debate anything.

    You’re upset because you look like Sanders?

    If you Don’t read maybe you should listen to the radio, try Rush or Glen.

    Over pop! you wouldn’t read it anyway.

    • Jon

      My name isn’t Jonathan.

      My complaint is about insults and name calling that have nothing to do with the topic. You don’t like my debate technique, that’s OK with me.

      No, I don’t look like Sanders and I’m not upset that someone posted that image. I have no idea what it’s supposed to mean. I

      I do read, but I’m not going to listen to Rush or Glenn Beck. I get bored with all the partisanship from both sides.

      “Over pop!” Is that supposed to mean something?

  • Charles

    Jon please don’t tell me about Grammer when you start a sentence off with the word “AND”

    Okay Pumpkin

    • Jon

      It’s perfectly acceptable to start a sentence with “and.” Is your Google broken?

      • Charles

        Jonathan in what English class did they teach you this?

      • Jon

        Seriously, have you tried Google? It’s considered informal but acceptable English. Look into it.

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