Senator Wants Senate Chamber Prayers Nondenominational

By Edgar Linares, NewsRadio 830 WCCO

ST. PAUL (WCCO) — On Monday, a prayer on the Senate floor made Democratic State Sen. Terri Bonoff feel “highly uncomfortable.” Bonoff, from Minnetonka, is Jewish and says the visiting Baptist pastor made several references to Jesus Christ and Christianity.

“I have great respect for religion and the importance of it in people’s lives,” said Bonoff. “What I was raising is that we have a long-standing tradition in the Senate that our prayer is done nondenominationally.”

The Senate gives a letter to all visiting church leaders requesting they keep their prayer in a non-denominational fashion. The two-minute prayer given by Pastor Dennis Campbell on Monday referred to “Jesus Christ” three times.

After the prayer, Bonoff stood up and requested reaffirmation of the prayer policy.

“I wondered if this happened because perhaps this minister was invited by someone who wasn’t aware of this tradition,” she said.

Bonoff said after making the request for reaffirmation she didn’t receive strong statements back.

Now she’s asking the letter sent to visiting church leaders not “request” non-denominational prayer but “require” it.

Bonoff says whenever a prayer is given she feels connected to others on the floor.

“When there’s a prayer said with a strong faith message that is different from my own, I don’t have that (connecting) experience,” said Bonoff. “It in fact leaves me with a sense of surprise and a feeling of disconnect, and being disenfranchised from my colleagues.”

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  1. josh says:

    get over it!! focus on our state debt!!!!!!!!!

  2. Marzipan says:

    Pretty soon we won’t even be allowed to pray to “God”, because it will be considered “denominational”.

  3. Rob says:

    How much money are they going to spend to do this. Get over it and get on with your job.

  4. Rachael in Minnetonka says:

    Terri – bring in a Rabbi. Then all’s fair and equal.
    Don’t play this thing for any more than this. It was not meant to be an issue.
    I voted for you more than once but if this escaltes into something that I am sensing …. never again. I suspect most here in ‘tonka share that thought. Stop it

  5. Confused says:

    Disenfranchised because someone uttered the name Jesus? She’s confused about the definition of disenfranchised………………Even so, what ever happend to the politicians allegiance to our constitution and defending rights to freedom of speech.

  6. PJ says:

    Oh God in Heaven help us all. Just let it be its not directed at you personally. Is it really going to make you life miserable. Just get to your job

  7. Dan says:

    I thought adulthood was a requirement for election to the Senate, but I guess it’s optional.

  8. He who sees says:

    She is right. Non-denominational prayer can bring people together, but, once you start prayers for only one religion, you’re cutting off you’re fellow brethren from the community feeling. Such is the problem of religion in general vs. the good of all human kind. There will never be a united human race as long as there is the specter of religion shadowing it.

  9. K Hatlestad says:

    Would the previous commentors respond the same way to a prayer that called on Allah, Budha, Zororaster or Baha’ullah?

    1. Ralph bets nope says:

      nope – they’d load up the AK’s and head down the pass to do an ambush. Good old hypocrites alive and well in MN

    2. maryn says:

      This is the United States of America. A country with a founding principle of the belief in GOD.

  10. MARK IN MN says:

    PRAYER IS NOT A SPEECH TO AN AUDIENCE, BUT RATHER COMMUNICATION WITH A VERY PERSONAL GOD, NOT SOME NON-DENOMINATIONAL UNNAMED BEING.

    SENATOR, IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, LEAVE THE ROOM!

    1. MSavick says:

      No one in the in any part of Minnesota government should be forced to leave the room or have someone’s prayer forced on them.. There is a little thing called the Constitution which has a item called the “establishment clause” that separates government from religion. the US Constitution can be found on lie and in the library.

      1. Denise says:

        Liar. Fraud. JUDE.

      2. Dan says:

        @Denise – Hey Eva Braun-go swallow your cyanide pill awaits.

  11. MARK says:

    Why are they praying in the Senate anyway? There should be no prayer of any denomination. What a ridiculous waste of time.

    1. Billy says:

      Mark, Ba Humbug Prayer does bring all peole together in a sence of a netural sprit of doing the job at hand. And as much as I disagree with the senator, Prayer is a good thing and is necessery I personaly think it doesent matter if you pray to God or Buta Your God knows Your on Heart,s feelings and that should be the end of it. Mark may God,Allia, Buda, who ever Bless and Keep you safe. And Senator, God Loves you to.

  12. Rev. Jodi says:

    I completely agree with this senator! I would be offended if someone prayed to a diety I did not believe in. It’s SO easy to pray non-demonitional prayers that are meaningful!

    I agree with the other points, tho, just get the budget figured out, please!

  13. Andrew says:

    Bonoff, I don’t think this agrument will work out well for you politically. If the speaker was Jewish and included content specific to the Jewish faith, I doubt very much that you would be making wake. Focus on your job as a Senator – doesn’t the Senate have enough to worry about? Find another way to get your name in the papers . . . grow up

    1. MARK says:

      So you’d be cool if the daily Senate prayer mentioned only Allah, I suppose? Or do I just not get it and need to grow up, too?

      1. Andrew says:

        Well Mark, if you keep this all in perspective and avoid dramatic exaggerations, you’ll find that her “objection” was the mention of the name “Jesus” three times. I don’t recall reading that this was the ONLY name mentioned or that it is a regular occurence on the Senate floor. She should spend her time, effort, and energy on objectives concerning her elected position as a Senator. And yes, you need to grow up too Mark🙂 You like to twist things ay?

      2. MARK says:

        I made a dramatic exaggeration? I made a rhetorical point, nothing more. So your contention is that Jesus was not the only name mentioned, they also mentioned other religions in the Senate prayer? Obviously, they did not.

        And just a pointer, telling people to “grow up” isn’t going to help convince anyone of your argument. Just the opposite, in fact.

    2. MSavick says:

      Senator Bonoff represents many faith and non faith communities within her community. Rabbis are also requested to make their prayers nondenominational. You wouldn’t recognize a denominational prayer from a rabbi because your theology starts with the Hebrew Bible or Old Testament. Psalms anyone?

  14. Dana says:

    Voter her out of office and she wont have to feel uncomfortable again !

    1. Gads says:

      Yea — vote for Muhammed. He’ll cleanse the Christian wackos

  15. TW says:

    This is America, enjoy your freedom to be specific and denominational in the practicing of your faith. So long as your faith does not require anything from me and mine from you we should be fine.

  16. Really! says:

    This is typical of lawmakers. One thing happens one time and we have to spend time, energy and taxdollars to change it all for everybody. Maybe he wasn’t aware of the “rule”. LET IT GO! Or perhaps listen with interest and enlighten yourself to other peoples ways, cultures and attitudes. Maybe it will help you be a little more considerate of people who aren’t like you.

  17. budgen says:

    Where did all the meanness come from. I agree there are bigger issues at hand but the request was neither irrational or controversial. Please calm down if you are feeling mean. Try a little introspective of why you may be angry about someone elses feeling.

  18. Takes a lot of chutzpa to cry foul over this says:

    I’ve lost pretty much all respect for Sen. Bonoff after she decided to make headlines over this non-issue. Was there a personal attack on her, on a member of the senate, on the USA, on her faith, on anyone or anything? There was not.

    If this is an example of how she prioritizes things, she will not earn my vote again.

  19. DJ says:

    If the senate feels the need to pray while in session then they should follow that up with passing around the collection plate with all the proceeds then given back to us taxpayers.

    Until that happens the religious rituals and the subsequent objections are nothing more than a waste of time.

  20. mjl says:

    Get on with it. He was not trying to convert you it was a prayer. Hope she isn’t that narrow minded in her duties as a senator. I love hearing prayers from other religions to broden my views. That doesn’t mean i am going to convert because i am aware of how they feel. There is freedom of speech.

    1. Victim Du Juor says:

      equal time every day for me too.
      Muhammed
      Then a Rabbi
      Then a preacher again.
      They babble long enough the politcal freaks won’t get a thing done. Oh wait – they never have
      Go Mohammed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. pat says:

    Jesus said “No one comes to the Father, but through me” If the mere mention of the name of the Lord makes Ms. Bonhoff uncomfortable, perhaps she should examine her “feelings”, he may be calling her.

  22. mark from mntaxwaste.com says:

    State Sen. Terri Bonoff has come out to say that she wants Jesus out of the Minnesota Senate Prayer. When I was reading this I could not feel anything but anger at her. For too long people like her have tried to take our right to prayer out of our schools and now she has moved to take the word Jesus out of our State Capitol.
    We sent Sen. Bonoff an email to interview her, or get her comments on this but have not heard back from her or her staff. We are wondering why such a simple name could give her such a pain that she would want it removed from prayer. She is Jewish and is well aware of what the name Jesus means to her.
    The name “Jesus” in her own words makes her feel uncomfortable. How could one mans name make a person feel so uncomfortable that they would want to have it removed from prayers? I got to thinking how I would feel if a group wanted to use their right as Americans to pray and what I would do. I would leave the room if the prayers or the person whom they were praying to. That’s it in a nut shell, just leave the room and go do my own thing. This self righteous Senator wants to force her views on religion and the state down our throats with out a fight. Thinking all along that we would lay down and let her take our right as Americans to pray.
    The last time I checked Senator, the United States Constitution gives us that right, and no one will take that right away from us. Could we Senator use another name in place of Jesus? How about Buddha or Mohamed? Or would those names make you feel uncomfortable? If a Rabbi would come and pray would that be ok in your book?
    I am a big believer in ones right to pray, and believe that the state has already taken many of our religious and personal rights away over the past 25 years. But Sen. Bonoff has gone too far in taking more of these rights away because one mans name makes her feel uncomfortable.
    Sen. Bonoff do you want to know what makes us feel uncomfortable? People unable to find work, taxes going up, State Senators thinking of funding a stadium as our roads get more and more pot holes, our homes in foreclosure, Minnesota school children failing, but the schools want more money! These are just a few of the things that make us uncomfortable.
    How about stop caring about what’s important to you and take care of the voters who put you in office!

    1. MSavick says:

      You still have a right to prayer in school. Ever take a hard math test? You just don’t have a right to force your prayers on anyone else. Forcing prayer on someone else doesn’t work. Insincere prayer is recognized and worthless. G-d is smarter than that.

      1. Denise says:

        Your odious and crimonal Tribe has been driven out of country after country, for over 2000 year. 109 countires, approx. And it’a ALWAYS for the SAME reasons. It’s YOU. Jews haven’t been persecuted. EVER. They’ve been CAUGHT. Wait til America fully understands what the Tribe has done to my country……..

        Nation 110 is stepping up to the plate…

    2. Denise says:

      Jews are always behind the attacks on Christianity. They are the oldest Enemies of the Christ. Americans have been snookered, for decades, tricked and lied to aobut their true natures, and agendas. Please understand that their hatred for Christians knows NO bounds, They seek to erradicate Christianity, and enforce the Noahide Laws, You will be their slave – or they will kill you.

      1. MSavick says:

        So this isn’t an honest discussion and friendly disagreement about the US Constitution, the First Amendment, the establishment clause or keeping a longstanding tradition & covenant among Minnesota Senators to engage in non denominational prayer for Denise.

        Denise’s rant is spouting pure hatred for the Jewish Community.
        I suspect she doesn’t even know any members of the Jewish community. I am impressed that less that 3% of the population has so much power over her.
        I will have to discuss this phenomenon with my friend who is a retied minister and my neighbor, who is the father of a minister, at our Passover table.

        So what does Denise and “Nation 110” (whoever they are?) have to offer in the way of accomplishments and contributions to our country and our community?

    3. Josh says:

      No one has taken any right away. Children can pray in schools if they so choose -that is in no way illegal. What you can’t do, is organize the students together and have a school sponsored prayer. I’m sorry that are so insecure in your religion that you feel the need to include it in public discourse. There’s no reason to bring up any religious figure in a public forum that concerns multi-faiths, as well as non-believers. But you know what? I say let’s have government-sponsored religion- look how good that worked out for the Church of England. As James Madison argued -the more you involve religion in politics, the more people turn their backs. And when there are more Muslims than Christians in this country, it’ll be interesting to hear the what the Christians have to say.

  23. Sunshine says:

    The US was founded by people that wanted to keep religion seperate from government. I’m tired of people whining because some of us are trying to keep it that way. There should not be any religion in government because how would you choose which one to favor?
    And how have they taken away any freedoms by not featuring christianity? Where did she say you can worship your favorite diety? You can still pray all you want, just don’t try to get others to conform to your prayers and your version of religion.

    1. Rev. Jodi says:

      nicely stated sunshine!!! I have often been troubled by the notion that other people’s religious beliefs somehow might nullify mine. Celebrate your religion and I will celebrate mine!

  24. mark from mntaxwaste.com says:

    @Sunshine You might want to read your history on the USA. We were founded on Christian beliefs.

    1. He who sees says:

      What, the same beliefs that almost killed off the entire people who were here before the christians? The beliefs that tricked those people out of their lands that they lived off for hundreds or thousands of years. What, did you also forget that the christian forefathers that founded the USA are the ones who originally wanted separation of church and state and would be the same ones that probably wouldn’t want ANY prayers in a capitol building or on a senate floor?

      1. Denise says:

        Errr…ever heard of the Windover Bog people? The earliest known inhabitants? Who were Caucasians?

        You Land Bridge ASIANS killed off the original inhabitants, you vile racist.

      2. Denise says:

        Caucasians were in the North American Contient befor the Land Bridge Asian savages showed up. DO try to keep up.

    2. Rev. Jodi says:

      Mark – our country was founded by a bunch of Unitarians trying to escape religious dogmatism. We (USA) were NOT founded on Christian beliefs. Seperation of church and state, all the way!

      1. Denise says:

        Wrond. You must be a Jew. You twist and LIE. The Founders were Christians.

    3. maryn says:

      Amen, brother!!

    4. Ben says:

      Right…Like when Thomas Jefferson said, “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.” Or when he said “And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.” Check out the “Treaty of Tripoly”, anything James Madison had to say on the subject, or the Jeffersonian bible. Or just move to Texas.

  25. jtt says:

    OK. When people say this country was based on Christian beliefs, I think they need to explain. So, go ahead and explain…

  26. MSavick says:

    There is a little inconvenient principal of separation of church and state. Non denominational prayer was a working compromise over no prayer at all. We have been persecuted by misguided followers of Christianity since about the year 400. Many of us were forced to learn Christian prayers in public school while being bullied because we were not Christian. Being forced to listen to a denominational prayer in public meeting when there is an agreed on policy of nondenominational prayer is wrong. Senator Bonoff had a perfect right to protest. Many of you would be screaming mad if you were forced to listen to an unpopular religion’s denominational prayer. as for the rabbi comment, most rabbis know much more about Christianity than many of the folks who made rude comments above.

    1. Denise says:

      Hey Jew – here is the Establishment clause:

      “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

      The Jew Bonoff is attempting to RESTRICT religious freedom – specifically Christian religious expression. The Congress is prohibited from establishing a NATIONAL religion – but States are free to establish a State religion.

      Now – tell the Goy what the Talmud has to sy aobut Jesus.

      1. MSavick says:

        Yes I am Jewish. Thank you for the compliment. What have you got to be proud of? What have you accomplished? What have you contributed to the community? I suspect you wouldn’t be so “brave” in public.

        I keep a well read copy of the constitution at my desk so I can refer to it.

        You quote the establishment clause but you sure don’t understand it or the Supreme Court cases that define its meaning. Many of the originals 13 colonies had state religions which is part of the reason for the establishment clause. Where is it written that states can establish a state religion?
        I don’t know where you went to school but you sure didn’t learn anything but bigotry and hate. I suspect you wouldn’t be so “brave” in public.

  27. MSavick says:

    I forgot to mention Jesus of Nazareth was part of the early rabbinical tradition, hence the conflict with the religious conservatives of his time. Without Judaism and the Hebrew Bible you would still be worshiping statues. Without Judaism there would be no Christianity!

    1. Denise says:

      Chrsitianity is a rebuke to and a correction of Judaic malevolence. Judaism is a “religion” of Race, bloodline,s and self-worship. As typified by your snotty and arrogant comments. Get out of my country, Jude.

      1. Ben says:

        Denise is the perfect example of Christian Love, and why we need protection from it.

  28. MSavick says:

    “Get out of my country, Jude.” ? Now we have descended into hate speech. What makes you so special that you determine who belongs in the United states. According to the US Constitution, 14th Amendment, individuals who were born in the United States are citizens with the full rights and responsibilities thereof. I can prove that my ancestors arrived here legally and legally became citizens. Can you? Do you even know your heritage?
    What do you have to be proud of?

  29. Denise says:

    Darned tootin.’ Benny, and Savick. I and VERY Christian. MY ancestors founded the USA. Whites have EVERYTHING to be proud of, you bloody parasite. So crawl back to whatever pit oyu crawled out of Savick. YOUR Tribe has ruined the best host they’ve ever had. Go wreck another Nation.

  30. MSavick says:

    Your ancestors may have founded the USA but what have you personally accomplished except being vulgar and spouting hatred? What do you contribute to the community? You sound like a mean angry child. You certainly shouldn’t be proud of anything you have written here. What makes you so hateful? I’m sure you wouldn’t make these comments in public.

    P.S. Don’t use antibiotics or vaccines they were developed by Jewish researchers. Same with cell phones, TV remote controls, gasoline stations, microphones , stainless steel, lasers, ball point pens, and lots of computer and internet patents, etc.. Don’t forget the Jewish merchants that smuggled arms past the British Fleet to General Washington’s troops in the Revolutionary War. Men such as Aaron Lopez were bankrupted supporting the Revolution when their ships were lost to the British. In the area of finance the young American government might have foundered too except for the financial genius and personal financial risk and support taken on by Hayim Solomon. Solomon was to die bankrupted by his total support of the American cause. Jews fought in every American war including the battle of Bunker Hill.

  31. MSavick says:

    Again what have you personally got to be proud of . What have you contributed to the community? Many of us have white European ancestors but that doesn’t tell us anything about personal accomplishments.

    What we know is that you have a deep hatred that is only consuming you. None of the Gospels that I have read or heard while visiting friends’ churches speak of such hatred. Perhaps you should try reading them. If you don’t understand than try talking to a minister or priest. I had a very nice weekend but I did reflect on how unhappy you must be.

  32. Kala says:

    The CONSTITUTION guarantees the free practice of religion ANYWHERE!!!! These kind of perpetually perturbed liberals are stomping on the basic inalienable rights of Americans. She is probably not a prcticing Jew or she would be very concerned about a “singling out ” a religion to attack. She would be supporting the free practice of religion. I suggest if she is that easily perturbed many politics isn’t a good line of work for her.

  33. MSavick says:

    You are correct Karla, the Constitution guarantees the free practice of religion. It also guarantees freedom from religion. The anti establishment clause which for bids the government from establishing or promoting one religion, has also been interpreted by the Supreme Court to prevent being subjected to official prayer during school or government functions, while upholding the rights of individual prayer. The senator was not singling out any religion for attack, she was questioning the particular minister’s non adherence to the tradition and policy of the Senate to have non-denominational prayer. Do you actually know enough about Judaism to determine if the Senator is a “practicing Jew?” As for “easily perturbed” there is almost 1500 years of history of misguided Christians persecuting the Jewish Community. Germany, Poland, Czarist Russia, etc became anti-Semitic when they adopted Catholicism. Unfortunately Martin Luther continued preaching hatred for Jews. The persecutions my family fled were perpetrated by Christians in Christian countries taught and condoned by Christian Churches. Jews that weren’t able to flee Europe were slaughtered by Germans and their henchmen. Jewish refugees aboard the S.S. St Louis were refused entry in to the United Sates and were sent back to Germany and eventual annihilation. Approximately 6 million or half of the European Jewish Communities were purposely starved to death or otherwise slaughtered. I have know survivors but they were few. In the US discrimination against Jews in jobs, housing, medical care lasted into the 1960s. My father would not have been allowed to legally purchase a home in several towns including Golden Valley and Edina because of legal covenants in deeds forbidding Jews and other minority groups to own those properties. Jewish physicians were not allowed to practice medicine in Minnesota hospitals until the Jewish community built Mt Sinai Hospital. Many other businesses including law firms discriminated in hiring. Read Denise to see how much still exists. If anyone knows about the free practice of religion, those of us who have been subject to persecution and discrimination know it well. If you met Senator Bonoff you would find that she is courageous defender of the rights guaranteed in our Constitution for everyone.

  34. George in MN says:

    Stick to your guns, Ms Bonoff!!!!! Don’t let the rabble win this one.
    However, dispensing with this prayer stuff altogether would solve the problem
    and be a better adherence to the First Amendment’ establishment clause.
    Religion has spawned more dissention and wars than have agnostics and atheists.

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