By John Lauritsen, WCCO-TV

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — An arrest has been made in a mass overdose that killed a 19-year-old father and hospitalized 10 others, according to the Anoka County Sheriff’s Office.

Authorities say 21-year-old Timothy Richard Lamere reportedly purchased, possessed and provided the drug 2C-E, which is legally sold online, to the group. He is now in the custody of the Sheriff’s Office being held for third-degree murder. Formal criminal charges are expected on March 21, 2011.

Those 10 people in Blaine are now recovering at home. Nineteen-year-old Trevor Robinson from Coon Rapids died after taking the drug. It’s a pill that is ground down and either snorted or mixed in a drink.

The teens and young adults all took the drug during a spring break party at a home in Blaine Wednesday night.

When Trevor’s brother, John, met Lamere last Wednesday, the conversation lasted only a couple of minutes.

“He was like, thanks for bringing Trevor out here, do you want some of this stuff,” said John.

“Obviously there is some blame here. Somebody brought the drugs in,” said Greg Fisher. “He made it sound like it was something that wasn’t that big of a deal.”

Fisher said it was his great nephew Jesse who threw the party at his parents’ house. Fisher said Jesse was supposed to be staying at a friend’s house while his parents were out of town, and he also overdosed but was released from the hospital. Fisher said, however, Jesse was not the one who provided the drug, and he even tried to perform CPR on Trevor.

“Someone has to step up, the sheriff has to step up, the FDA, and get these drugs off the Internet,” said Fisher.

We found one website where 2C-E was selling between $10 and $20 per gram. It has a slow on-set when ingested, causing users to feel like they need to take more. As it was discussed on the Early Show this morning by Dr. Jennifer Ashton, it can lead to an increase in body temperature, irregular heartbeat and an overdose.

“People can be lulled into a false sense of security that it’s safe because it’s legal. Obviously it’s deadly,” said Dr. Ashton.

Trevor’s family is learning that first-hand, as they try to cope with his loss.

“I definitely believe he would still be here. I definitely believe he would still be here if that hadn’t been brought here ever,” said John.

John told WCCO-TV that his brother had just turned 19 last weekend, had just become a father and was hoping to finish college.

John would like to see 2C-E get the same attention as the chemicals used in synthetic drugs like, K2 or spice, which are sold in stores. Sen. Amy Klobuchar recently sponsored legislation to ban the chemicals after emergency rooms around the country reported an increase in visits because of K2 use.

“It should be illegal,” said John. “As it stands being legal now, it hurts everyone.”

Investigators are not saying right now how much of the drug was ingested by the eleven people who took it.

Comments (120)
  1. Babbie says:

    Need to make an example out of these people! Drugs just ruins lives and we need to prevent their illegal use.

    1. Jimbo says:

      If it’s legal…..and the person who died is of age…….then what legal recourse is there!? Stupid

      1. Joe says:

        Drinking is legal, but if a bartender keeps serving a person till they are hammered and the same person goes out and kills a family on the road, the bartender can be charged. Read up on the law before you make a stupid comment like that.

      2. Rachel says:

        I couldn’t agree more. Its legal and a 19 year old made a decision. Was there peer pressure and teenage invincibility involved – absolutely. Kids do dumb things and most survive. Is it sad? Yes. Is it anyone’s fault – only the 19 yr old. You can’t hold another adult responsible for providing something legal. Would it be this guys fault if the 19 year old drank too much bleach?

        1. MAD MOM says:

          Yes you can hold him liable, He is not a chemist and did not know the lurking danger so providing something that is deadly is attempted murder but there are variables that are taking into account reason for being charged with 3rd degree murder vs. murder 1, When someone provides your family member with something that kills them you will want justice and someone to blame that is a fact.

      3. foge1 says:

        Jimbo, your are stupid. It is like if you misuse of provide someone with the misuse of anything like providing gold paint for someone to huff. You are still liable in the courts eyes. It is against the law to misuse this drug other than for its intended purpose. Do some research moron.

      4. Erik says:

        According to reports, you have to check a liability waiver saying the product will not be ingested. Therefore, if you check that and then proceed to give it to others to ingest, you are taking responsibility for the consequences. Also, you cannot legally consent to great bodily harm/death, so it doesn’t matter if the victim agreed to take it. Right on the video above the site to purchase it says NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, but he gave it to people. There are plenty of legal things to buy that you can be held criminally responsible for if you hurt or kill somebody with.

      5. qryptik1 says:

        A gun is legal. Giving a gun to someone to kill themselves is not. See the difference. When giving someone a dangerous object to knowingly be misused, you should be held responsible for the consequences. Manslaughter maybe; murder, no chance. Although the dead boy’s family probably disagrees with my last statement. He should be severely punished, but a murder sentence would end his chance at any kind of life. They are obviously going for a plea bargain with the higher charge.

      6. the crux of the biscuit says:

        Joe – I doubt the young man did anything illegal. If I go to a party and bring drano and say, ‘This makes you realy, realy high if you drink it’, then someone drinks it and dies, is that my fault? Not hardly. No one held the young people that died or got very ill down and forced them to do anything. They did it of their own free will. Since the chemical substance is not illegal to possess, purchase, carry or ingest, what law was broken? This will get thrown out of court. Now, if they can prove negligence on the part of someone knowing these people were in deep physical distress and needed medical attention and acted with willfull disregard, then maybe there are some charges there.

        1. MAD MOM says:

          You are liable because you said it would get them high but you forgot to state this will kill you, and you didn’t have to bring it to the party but you did so with the intention of convincing someone to take it to get high. Maybe you should keep the drano at home, “bet you stick your head in a fire if I told you, you could see hell” quote from a movie that rings true to this story.

      7. qryptik1 says:

        @the crux of the biscuit. You’re an idiot. Watching too much Judge Judy? FYI, it is illegal to ingest, as well as to provide to someone for the purpose of ingesting.

      8. Tad needs a drink and so does Joe says:


        You reaching Joe, you stretching your neck way to far. It may never be normal again lmao
        If the bartender CONTINUES to serve someone intoxicated would be the proper words.
        The difference is booze is designed for a buzz. When the buzz becomes a drunk we have a liability factor. If it was any other way there would be less than a handful of bars in existence. 😉
        Do we know he continued to provide a LEGAL sunstance to everyone after the effects were known ???? No, of course not. If he did then there is maybe a case here. Short of that this is typical hogwash, bs and nonsense by the legal system. Fix the laws folks so you can prosecute and then we all on board. This charge – bullchit of the highest order

      9. DarkMan says:

        Jimbo – Lets play the stupid game. YOU ARE STUPID. blah blah

    2. eric says:

      What a bunch of winners.
      Parents must be very proud!

      1. Darren says:

        This has nothing to do with parents. The young people made the decisions. Totally and only their fault.

  2. Treatment for starters says:

    How much more of a example needs to be made. One person already died. Send them all for chemical dependancy testing and have them do community service by talking to other kids at school, church, etc… about the dangers of this drug and drugs in general.

    Giving them a fine which will just go to the pocket of who knows where isn’t going to help, jailing them is not the answer either.

    1. DJ Anderson says:

      I totally agree. There is not enough education on this matter as far as I’m concerned. It needs to be talked about more than it is.

  3. Barb says:

    Please let this be heard around the nation. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved. This could happen to anyone of our kids. This is a lesson the kids will feel for the rest of their lives. Now is not the time to point fingers, but to heal and learn.My daughter was a friend and is having a hard time , but has taken this as a lesson to young kids. JUST SAY NO !!!

  4. Brddog says: for above kids must be really poor if they need to be on drugs.Perhaps if hey had excepted their lives and improved them with out being on drugs.

    Why do those of us not on drugs have to pay for treatment on drugs ?, Yea it’s a disease alright same as alcoholics and we pay…why?.

    1. Wallys sipping a java says:

      Why do I pay for your kids to go to school? Or your parks? Roads and curbs? I live outstate and use none of the things referenced. It goes on and on ….

      Guess that’s why we all incurr costs. The betterment of society. Maybe we don’t like it but that’s how it is

    2. Wilbur says:

      Kids and adults do stupid things. If you can discover the why of it, it probably would astound researchers. Why do some people need to try to drive 100 mph and others think you are an idiot to drive that?
      You pay for smoking damage, obesity damage, and every other fault that causes damage to the person. Society hasn’t figured out yet how to make it a more personally responsible thing.

    3. qryptik1 says:

      Why did I pay for your education when you didn’t even learn the proper use of the words excepted and accepted? Your comment is ignorant.

  5. Jimbo says:

    If I bought a pack of cigarettes for a friend, (a legal item) and my friend died of lung cancer…..could you charge me with murder? This is a rediculous charge. Shame on law enFARCEment.

    1. John says:

      Glad I’m not the only one who is questioning this story.

    2. paul says:

      this is very different than a pack of cigs use some commonsense , this a synthetic drug that can and will cause BAD PROBLEMS WHEN TAKEN in a recreational setting like other drug. Its a SAD situation for everyone involved here 12 people went to the hospital this is a tragic situation. are we suppost to say big fing deal so someone died! NO we need to find a sulution so it don’t happen again as in drugs shouldn’t be sold on line for anyone.

      1. NRA Member says:

        No – it should not be sold. So change the law.
        What you do not seem to understand if the simple fact the thing was and yet today is legal. They both were adults and of legal age. A bad choice by all was made. But murder – you are out of you friggen mind if you think that is the case. And God help you if someone falls from a ladder you provided and dies, OD’s on caffeine or bad food you made. They are LEGAL

      2. Look at all the stupidity!!! says:

        What is not “synthetic” in cigs? Maybe only the paper and tobacco but still has how many other chemicals in it? What do you not understand?
        Item taken = legal
        person who took it = 18 years +
        personal accountability = ????
        Why are people so fast to say someone else is to blame when this person made his own choice to take A LEGAL drug and then someone else should have to take the blame when something happens? Where is the logic in that? Same people that say this are the people that say “my son was so nice before he started listening to that kind of music, or played those video games and that is what made him shoot up a school”. Nobody can say that there was something wrong with that person and THEY made the choice. If they can prove that the person arrested gave this drug to him without him knowing,,, yes it is a crime. Other than that, save your witch hunt please and start taking personal accountability!

      3. paul says:

        You missed the point I’m not on a witch hunt and yes all cigs are synthetic I KNOW the person who provides is usually going to be charged in a case were a death happens and the family will probably file a civil suit

    3. william says:

      Is it stupid then to prosecute serving someone too much alcohol? You throw a bocce ball at someone and it causes damage, you are liable. The ball is not the problem, the action with it is.
      The substance is legal but does the preparation turn it into something not legal.

    4. MAD MOM says:

      Hey Jimbo why not say no friend buy your own cigarettes. This isn’t even on the same scale however because the affects are not instant death. One pack of cigarettes will not kill somone but years of smoking will kill someone and you can not pin point which pack of cigarettes actually caused the lung cancer, here we know exactly which drug, which route ingested and how much killed this person.

  6. John says:

    I’m confused, so if I buy cheetos for a party and someone OD’s on them, can I be arrested? This is a very sad situation, but the story says that this substance is legal. How can you arrest someone for buying a legal substance that gets used by a legal age adult? Let’s say the guy is 21, and you brought over alcohol and he drank himself to death (and committed no other crimes like DUI) during the party…no court in their right mind is going to convict. There has to be more to the story. Again, a sad story, but someone explain what was illegal.

    1. Jimbo says:

      I agree whole heartedly……they knew the risks involved and it is legal.

      1. Common Sense says:

        Yep. Prosecutor who filed charges on behalf of the po-po should get their head examined for knowledge of law. Guy who provided now has to sit over the weekend in the slammer, at an expense to Mr. and Mrs. John Q. Taxpayer, of course, for a case extremely unlikely to be successful. If any family members of the Darwin Challenge Study Group (the ones who OD’d), they should start right at home. VERDICT: not guilty; lesson learned.

    2. paul says:

      wrong the provider is and has been convicted of 3rd degree unintetional homicide and this is were they will go in this case also YES he is an adult but when intoxicated ot under the influence they are NOT in control of themselves and don’t know what is wrong or right It is the same as a bartender serving a person who is drunk until he passes out and dies of alcohol poisoning

    3. LS says:

      He checked the box that states he’s responsible for anyone that uses the drug when he made the purchase. 16 year old kids were given that drug in lethal doses. What’s not clear about that?

    4. MAD MOM says:

      Legal item used in manner it was intended = no harm done
      Legal item used in manner that is not intended (illegal)= Death Do you really not see the difference. What was illegal was causing death. Gawd I hope I do not live close to those of you that are clueless, you are all dangerous to society with your ignorance.

  7. Jeff in Wayzata says:

    I’m sober – over 30 years. These kids made a bad choice, a fatal mistake in one case.
    What I do not understand here is this – if the so-called drug is legal, is available online and accessable to all how in the hell can they charge this guy with 3rd degree murder???
    If I provide you with coffee and caffeine, you get wired on it and die – would I too be charged the same???
    Using what I know and have been able to read on this case that would seem to be true. I got some very scary news for everyone here – that logic could carry over to almost anything you or I ever do and it spooks me to no end.
    If the thing is legal as they all state it to be, the victim was over the age of 18 and not a minor and legal to serve his country, buy cigarettes and such —- this makes no sense. Frankly – I hope to high heck a very capable attorney takes this case and smashes it to bits in court.
    That said – they were foolish, made a real dumb decision using anything that eneters ones system and they all will have to live with the loss of a friend for the rest of their lived. That folks is hell on earth in itself.
    I do not condone anything they did – but I am 100% against any charges either when it involves something legal and consenting adults made that choice. To me it is a great career enhancing headline case for the prosecutor and that is total BS

    1. paul says:

      this is the same as if you go into a bar and the bartender keeps serving you drinks until you die of alcohol poisoning …………………………….YES they can be charged with murder !

      1. John says:

        You’re close to comparing apples to oranges here, paul. The article and posted video makes no mention of the deceased purchasing the drug from the man arrested, which is generally what gets the bars in trouble. It says the deceased was given the drug.
        I sure hope you never provide an apple to someone, who later chokes on a piece of that apple. Under the logic provided in this article (and the arresting officers), you would be liable for murder.
        Folks, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY needs to find it’s way back to America!

      2. paul says:

        john the guy arrested gave the dead man the drugs whether he forced him to take them or not they were both stupid! 2C-E and alcohol are both drugs that if you take too much it can KILL you was the point I was trying to make If you couldn’t understand that then your a bigger IDIOT than these kids !

      3. Sue says:

        Buy purchasing this “legal” drug you agree to not allow anyone to disgest it. He bought the drug, gave it to minors and “allowed” them to disgest it. Bad choices were made all the way around and it’s heartbreaking. Hope others can learn from this.

    2. Tommy says:

      I agree Jeff in Wayzata, Everyone wants to blame someone else but their own choices. But now that this story is national, I am sure this poor guy will have wondered why it was not him instead. Then we will be blogging about that story. If the stuff is legal to buy just like many other substances, chemicals etc…anyone can make that choice to use it or abuse it. The FDA approved aspartame in just about everything and this causes cancer is that murder? Don’t eat it EDUCATION, COMMUNICATION…. If parents want to blame the young man that bought them, perhaps they may want to know why they did not teach their young adults to say no thank you. I am sorry for the loss of this young father lets try not to ruin another life for the greater of “someone needs to pay”, because your right they already have and will never forget it.

    3. K says:

      I agree 100%. Thank you. I actually know Tim through mutual friends, and when I heard about this story I was in complete shock.

    4. Todd says:

      I agree. Why destroy this kids life too. Yeah, he bought the junk and provided it but nobody put a gun to the kids head and made him take it. Use this unfortunate incident to publicize how dangerous this stuff is and hopefully keep some other young adult alive. Tragic accident with accident being the important part of why they shouldn’t put Mr. Lamere in prison destroying his life too.

      1. MAD MOM says:

        Too teach him that actions have consequences and all about accountability. And with this charge it sends a clear message to the impressionable young ones beware of your actions, its all fun and games till you kill someone.

  8. Sandy says:

    Jeff in Wayzata, you are so right. Actually, go for the manufacturer and then question WHY IS THIS LEGAL? F’d up!

    1. Simi says:

      Why isn’t it legal? Wait…it is legal.

  9. Matt says:

    It is one thing to be charged and another to be convicted. This will never hold up. The police are trying to make a statement and this will get thrown out at the preliminary court hearing.

    1. KracktKrocker says:

      Just charging is pure BS – and then if somehow they make it stick ………..
      There’s something seriously wrong here besides the mistakes made by the people involved.

    2. MAD MOM says:

      Since I have seen this scenerio played out so many times I am just going to say that yes this will hold up infact it does everyday in criminal court. You misunderstand the law. Just finished a law class and have read and personally seen this tried and convicted it is more reasonable to say being acquited will never stand a chance.

  10. Jeanie says:

    No way should anyone be charged with this young man’s death!!! I’m sure these ‘kids’ are all having a very difficult time without any charges being filed!! I’m a firm backer of law enforcement but not in this case!!

  11. nate says:

    “There is a controlled hallucinogen called “2 C-B” and chemists reportedly alter it slightly to make it “2 C-E,” which also makes it legal.”

    From the original story…still begs the question why would a controlled hallucinogen be legal in the first place?

  12. MAJ says:

    Will the homeowner be lliable? The legal drug was distributed and used at their house.

    1. nate says:

      Why not if they can do it with underage drinkers or someone who dies from drinking in someone elses home I’m sure they would have no problem going that far either in this case.

      1. Common Sense says:

        Agree nate. That’s another BS trend in America.

    2. MAD MOM says:

      Yes, they can be

  13. Grizzlyman says:

    More scapegoating because people will not accept responsibility for their own actions. If always must be someone else s fault. A very sad outcome due to poor choices made by all the young people involved..

  14. Kristina Simmons says:

    3 degree murder makes no sense- an adult bought the drug online and offered the drug to another adult, the man who died was 19. They could charge him for endangering minors for the other od’s but NO way murder will stick. Why did they bother to charge him? Take too much of any drug and you can die, this is not this man’s fault.

  15. Hugh Jorgan says:

    Oh Christ – should have known this story would bring out idiots of all walks of life to provide their worthless comments…

  16. gigi says:

    why murder I mean he didn’t force a fellow 19 year old to snort it or whatever it is they do with it? I don’t like this one bit. A 19 year old Dad with no job and not in school does drugs and another one is blamed for the outcome. If you’re old enough to make a baby to should have enough sense or be mature enough to be done with drugs if for no other person then your child. Just another example of why teenagers should not have children.

    1. jeff says:

      He was in school and had a job. If you don’t know, don’t judge.

      1. gigi says:

        so a person with so little time on their hands dabbles in drugs? oh please!!! This is a comment section this is not the obituary section. If you don’t want to know what other people think of these kinds of people and drug use don’t come here. It’s really quite simple.

    2. Chris says:

      How is it that you can comment on someone’s life as if you know them personally? Merely commenting on a topic is one thing, but to say “19 year old dad with no job and not in school” very bold of you. Unless I’m wrong and you knew of him? Forgive me if I have a typo, as I see you are spelling checking others.

      1. gigi says:

        so he did work and go to school? why would someone with a job, homework and a kid have the need to use drugs, how would they have the tme if they were doing the right thing?

      2. Hey there gigi says:

        gigi — you obviously clueless about life and the fact many do things that are outside your narrow tunnel vision mind. bye

    3. Common tator says:

      Adults sometimes do drugs and have kids, guess its just another reason adults should not have children… That was as sarcastic as I could be. Why dont you keep your head in the clouds the real world is too much for you.

  17. Alan says:

    There is the law folks. 609.195, Minnesota Statutes 2007

    Copyright © 2007 by the Office of Revisor of Statutes, State of Minnesota.
    (a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by
    perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard
    for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment
    for not more than 25 years.
    History: 1963 c 753 art 1 s 609.195; 1977 c 130 s 3; 1981 c 227 s 11; 1987 c 176 s 1

    Personal responsibility, none all around. Someone bought the drugs, the drugs don’t work quickly, so they take more, they O.D. Yes you are responsible for what you put in your body. You are also responsible for what you do to others. More than likely the story will leak that none of them had a clue what the drug was about. It is not scapegoating. It is making someone responsible for their actions.

    1. gigi says:

      Nobody did anything to the kid who died he did it to himself and I don’t think anyone will buy the “none of them has a clue what the drug was about”. I also highly doubt this is the first time these young adults have tried drugs!!!

      1. Alan says:

        @ gigi But you don’t know for sure. what they knew about the drugs they were taking. At this point the public knows squat. If they did have a clue and the guy brought the drugs under the law he is culpable for his actions of providing a harmful substance.

      2. Chris says:

        Gigi, were you there to say that no one did anything? Seems no one did anything to save that kid that was in need of medical assistance until it was too late. Gigi, you must live in a perfect world to be so judgemental of others? Shame on you.

      3. gigi says:

        Chris a typical response for those high really.

        1. Common tator says:

          Your experiences and knowledge is outstanding, I am beside myself with jealousy, I was thinking soooo unclearly until you told us the typical response for those that are high. Thank you GIGI……

      4. Dylan says:

        first of all they didnt know it was 2CE.. they thought it was 2CI wich is less potent.. and the kid also put bathsalt int he 2CE..

    2. Nose plugs required in MN - again says:

      Alan – if this isn’t one of the scary laws on the books then I don’t know what is.
      Total catch all for damn near anything they want to catch you on.
      I liken it to a law that maybe the Nazi’s or Stalin had to enforce whatever they deemed fit with that person.

      God in Heaven ___ save us from ourselves please. Amen

  18. FairnessShouldPrevail says:

    Why are you posting a picture of someone who has not been charged for a crime? He will not be charged and if he is the justice system is abusing its authority. No crime was committed. This is a sad situation, but if pot was legal and the drinking age was 18, this would not have happened.

  19. Kristina Simmons says:

    lol Hugh your comment was the most worthless of all. Any drug that’s recreational is make illegal because of irresponsible people an addicts with the exception of alc. and tobacco, it’s ridiculous. I don’t use drugs, but if someone wants to trip on acid and see the world get “groovy,” they can’t, because other people abused/misused it.

  20. Cher says:

    I believe in the law. I don’t believe kids, or adults, should use drugs. I think this is a crazy charge! Had they charged him with supplying the younger kids..OK, I could have bought that. But the drug was legal, the man(if you can have a kid you are a man)was 19,legal, the guy who bought the legal drug was 21, also legal. I could understand if they charged the people on the internet(guilty) but I am having a hard time figuring this all out. I would have to pass on this jury because I couldn’t convict him!

    1. Common tator says:

      Cher, You are at my spa, I am going to fill up a bathtub with hot water and this stuff (legal) that relaxes your body go ahead get in its just some liquid stuff with some bubblebath its supposed to give a tingly affect and exfoliate your skin. But I didn’t know its exact chemical components were literally battery acid. I put alot in because I din’t know how much is too much. Sorry I burned 90% of your body and caused you to die, I didn’t do anything illegal cuz batteryacid is legal, Right? Besides why should I be held accountable for not knowing what it would do it was legal, your family is just gonna have to be burdened with you funeral cost and stuff sorry you have no recourse.

  21. paul w says:

    U know people I hope he gets everything he gets that was my friend that died and cigs are completley different it aint even in the same ball park paul how do even say that, drugs are drugs if someone dies they go after the dealer I hope that guy get everything he get he deserves it

    1. gigi says:

      your friend wasn’t made to do anything he did it to himself.

      1. Chris says:

        What about those 16 year old kids that overdosed? Let’s not forget they were supplied with alcohol.

  22. merks says:

    the D.A. is just looking for publicity trying to be the same annoying idiot as klobuchar. there is no crime here and the D.A. should be brought up on charges for abuse of office and harassment.

    1. DA says:

      remember you can’t legislate STUPIDITY merks

      1. ThomasD says:

        Nor a lousy DA – but you can get the sick dog removed. 😉

  23. Lesson to Learn says:

    You can be charged if you provide alcohol to somebody and they drive drunk and they kill somebody. Parents can be charged if they supply alcohol and something happens. No matter what you think it is the law. They can charge whatever they want. It is up to the court to determine if a crime took place and they are guilty. There was a case that I am aware of in WI where a college student supplied drugs to another and he died and besides the drug charges was charged with reckless homicide and is serving 10 years. The whole point is whether is it legal or illegal, when you supply a mind altering substance to another you assume the risk of being responsible if somebody dies. Good lesson for all.

    1. gigi says:

      which is a good argument the if you provide alcohol to others you too can be charged with murder if they were to kill someone if the purchasers are over 21 and the consumer is < 21.

  24. For Real? says:

    Some of you just don’t get it. It is always somebody else’s fault and when the accountability starts, then it is somehow a problem with those that are holding others accountable. Instead of squawking about how unfair you think it is, why not try to rearrange you thinking to include- when you play with fire you just may get burned. My heart goes out to all, however in this world the sooner you learn that you cannot do whatever you want to do in the moment, whatever feels good, and don’t even give a thought to the the potential consequences, the sooner you will “grow up”.

    1. MAD MOM says:

      Accountability includes everyones actions or everyone involved,this is not a case of just placing blame on others. The others have been punished by getting sick and one died now those that are ALSO accountable are the ones being charges they all contributed to this situation the teens and the suppliers. Do the math take the supplier out this wouldn’t have happened or take the teens out and this wouldn’t have happened it was a united effort.

  25. hejlena says:

    I think the people who should face charges are the ones who knew he took the drug, watched him go nuts and start banking his head against the wall, assault him (according to the earlier article they thought that would help him apparently), neglect to make a simple call to 911, and then dump him off in front of the hospital like a piece of trash.
    These people, to me, are criminally negligent. Not the guy who bought the drug.

  26. paul w says:

    All of u that think he shouldn’t be charged can go get f***ed that guy deserves everything he gets what’s wrong with u ppl my friend is dead and his girl friend now has to raise a kid all by herself think bout that n all the ppl that r affected none of u even knew him but yourself in the shoes of the family n friends

    1. gigi says:

      nice spelling Paul W and he has no one all of his family and friends have nobody to blame but him. HE DID THE DRUGS!!!!

      1. Chris says:

        So does that mean when someone needs medical help you just leave him there? Gigi, I can’t beleive you really agree with your own comments….and now you are addressing typo’s? To be so perfect as you are………….

      2. MAD MOM says:

        You are such a disappointment GIGI how dare you mock his feelings and commenting about his spelling you absolute waste of space. Everyday everywhere you moron products are being distributed legally without fully knowing what the affects are going to be. Tooth paste is a carcenogenic, yep it causes cancer, you use it everyday no one forces you but you do and if you get cancer its your fault it maybe rare but still could happen. Suppose you had a blood transfusion done and you contracted HIV, its your fault because you knew ther risks so don’t bother suing the hospital for giving you tainted blood. I could go on but I am sure putting you in your place would be as much of a waste of my time as you are a waste of space

    2. gigi says:

      to be as irresponsible as you are. Grow up learn some personal responsibility please please please before you and your type of friends and people do any more damage to any more lives.

      1. Chris says:

        I’m am grown adult, never touched a drug in my life. Just goes to show how you talk without thinking it through. Maybe you need to do some soul searching and stop Judging others and know when to have compasion for those have lost a loved one. Your comments have been immature, irresponsible and reckless.

    3. Guy says:

      And if your friend had just said “NO”; he would still be alive.
      Hopefully the kid gets his braincells from the mother’s side of
      the family…. and WE will probably be paying for the kid for
      the next 18 years

  27. Zach C. says:

    I agree with Paul W.. That was my brothers friend that died. Now Trevors g-friend has to take care of Bentley by her self. That guy is gonna get nailed hardcore. (Paul), you must be a drug dealer yourself that would cover your own ass. And that cheetos thing, that is just dumb, for example; the cheetos company posts whats inside the box and product. Now did the bottle or package that the 2C-E came in say what was in it? YES. Did they say its used by human consumption? Absolutely not. Come on people!!!

    1. the crux of the biscuit says:

      What about PERSONAL RESPOSIBILITY in this situation? Did the people at the party have no clue what they were drinking/snorting/ingesting? The product in question is not illegal to posses. It is no more illegal to ingest than drinking gasoline or anything else marked not for human consumption. It is sad people were hurt and died, but in this situation I would have a very difficult time convicting the person that bought and brought a legal substance to a party when someone else acted irresposibly and overdosed on it. How can you prove criminal intent whe nothing illegal occured?

      1. MAD MOM says:

        Yeah we got it already, they got what they desrved they all got sick That is accountability., Jesus beat that dead horse, Again everyone is accountable for the part they took in the situation His accountability was provided the drugs that killed now let it go. Thats his personal accountability.

    2. Guy says:

      So the fellow that died didn’t follow the label? That makes it HIS fault – not the
      idiot that supplied the stuff. Take responsibility for your actions & GROW UP
      (or OD & die – that works too).

  28. Just Saying says:

    Okay you guys are idiots. if you watched anything else on this. or actually did your research, instead of just believe what the news people were told you would know it is actually illegal.

    “Sometimes known as “Europa,” 2C-E is not specifically listed as a “Schedule I” controlled substance, the kind that are banned by name because they have no approved medical use, such as heroin, cocaine or LSD.

    The same is true for similar drugs available online called 2C-I and 2C-T-7. But a related substance known as 2C-B has gone through the slow and cumbersome process for a formal ban, and federal officials say that’s good enough because federal law allows prosecutions for “analogue” drugs.

    “You may be able to purchase it on the Internet, but it ain’t legal,” Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Rusty Payne said Friday.

    Minnesota authorities who announced the overdoses Thursday clearly thought otherwise because 2C-E is not covered by the state’s drug laws, which they are more accustomed to enforcing.

    Informed about the DEA’s position on the federal law Friday, Fenner said that might be one way to pursue prosecution.

    “They’d be the experts on that. … Those are the people we rely on,” Fenner said.

    When authorities announced Friday’s arrest, they cited the analogue law.”

    So instead of sitting around complaining about how someone shouldn’t go to jail because he did nothing wrong. think about it this way. A boy is dead. if their were never those drugs at the party, or even the fact that his friends dropped him off in front of the hospitial, instead of bringing him in, or just simply waiting for the police, and an ambulence to get there, then he may not be dead. I know his family members, and i believe if it was someone in your family who this happened to you would all shut up. and think about who was lost.

    it is sad that this drug is used so uncommonly used as to the fact that the police did not know off hand wether it was legal or not. It’s sad that this is what it had to take. But I hope he will be used as an example. Zach C. I hope he does get nailed.

  29. overdosed myself says:

    These deaths are senseless, but the necessity of finding someone at fault is BS. Just like in Northfield last year, someone must be accountable, how about the FDA for not updating the laws with the times. But really we are just locking up an addict who needs help himself and will get no help in Prison and will cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars to feed him

    1. reality says:

      It really doesn’t matter what should be done or will be done. We all have to live in the present with the laws that are on the books now. If you want to change them then you need to present your ideas to your legislators. It is a tragic situation all around, however if we have no accountability and we give everybody a pass there is no law that is enforceable. The biggest problem we have in society today is too many people get a pass and so everybody thinks they are above the law or believes they can beat any rap. I am making no judgment on this person as I don’t know him. What I do know is that he supplied some kids with a substance that ANYBODY who has a brain or a brain left should know carries risks. I guess if he provided it and we do not know if he gave it to them or sold it to them he is none the less culpable.

  30. KAYDEEE says:


    1. Todd says:

      He’s a big boy Kaydee. I realize that it is tragic and I feel bad for the family and his friends but nobody twisted his arm, he could have said “no thank you”.

  31. John says:

    I did not make it through all the posts before I wrote this, but why are a lot of you blaming the person that bought it? His decision to buy is no better than the decision of the all the kids that took it. The people that should be held accountable are the ones selling it on line.

  32. sarah says:

    because you have to check a box that says your not going to ingest it it is not to be ingested and he is responsible for him self or anyone else that ingests it being he promised it was not going to be ingested.

  33. the crux of the biscuit says:

    The fact that the people selling this over the internet require a box be checked that states you won’t ingest or let someone else ingest is irrelevant. The product in question has an implied usage, to be ingested in order to make the person taking it experience a ‘high’. The ‘check box’ is as useless as making someone check a box when purchasing a car that says they will never drive it over the speed limit or let anyone esle drive it over the speed limit. We all know cars are fast and people will drive them fast, making the check box rediculous.

    1. Ralph bets it's the start of the regime again says:

      That box = joke

      The MN SS , headed by the great leadership from the Anoka County Regional Jokes, shall seek to gain the publics awareness by spending loads of your money on a matter that will get tossed out. Then the Gestapo shall take it over and try it anew.

      I don’t see the Tea Party weighing in here – thought they were always big in and all about personal responsibilty ! Oh – that’s not so huh

    2. Todd says:

      I was just in the tobacco shop today and they have a canister of “fake” pot on the counter. It says “not for human consumption” knowing darned well that the people who buy it smoke it. Same kind of situation, though I don’t think the fake pot is as dangerous. If a kid smokes it and dies, is the shop liable?

      1. the crux of the biscuit says:

        No they are not.

  34. Murph says:

    Dude looks like typical Anoka county intellectual to me! Gosh I guess looks can be decieving,huh! . I wonder if he is Bachmanns supplier?

  35. paab says:

    the dude that sold it was an adult, the dude that died was an adult, over 18 and a father, college, work, obviously old enough to know what he was doing. T he family always looks for someone to blame. The reason all the hubbub? more than one, you have 11 big noise. Sorry to the family, but this man did what he wanted to. I wonder if his brother John will be drug free this time next year.

  36. Guy says:

    Unfortunatly; it looks like the rest will recover.
    Too bad… the human gene pool could use more
    clorination down at the shallow end …

  37. Show a little respect says:

    A lot of what is being posted here is so rude and it’s ridiculous because most of you have no idea what really happened, or who all of the people involved are and you never will. It’s hard for families on both sides of the situation. Clearly, Trevor’s family is going to be upset with Tim, along with all of his friends. At the same time it’s taking a huge toll on Tim’s family & relatives as well because, yes, he was supposed to agree that it would not be ingested — or whatever, but at the same time like man so rudely put it, Trevor did make the decision to ingest it. The thing about Tim’s accusation is that really, how is it 3rd degree murder when there was no intent? Everything that I’ve looked up about that says it has to be somewhat intentional or caused by reckless behavior. Clearly neither of those two happened. Manslaughter, on the other hand, perfectly matches the situation that happened and is what Tim should be charged with instead of 3rd degree murder.

  38. Justice says:

    WOW so many of you are just plain ignorant and disrespectful i’m appalled! Ethically speaking, think of everyone’s situation? I totally agree with “show a little respect” what if you or your family member were in this situation? Would you be saying the same things your saying now? No you’d be blaming someone too. In all honestly, I, myself am a young adult and I do have many friends that like to party and do drugs, experiment to get f****ed up and that is all their own choices/decisions, I myself, and many other of my friends have purchased stuff online because we either heard that “this product will do this, or this product is legal…And honestly in our minds we think well, It wouldn’t be legal and they wouldn’t be able to sell it online if it’s harmful so it should be/ is safer than real drugs like mushrooms, cocaine, ecstasy, acid…. Seriously, all you old snobs that are acting like you’ve never done anything dumb when you were younger and are so quick to blame the parents or their friends come one now be serious! I am sure the young man that bought the drug online did not have any intentions of harming or anyone dying by any means, they were his friends (People do care about their friends), they were all just looking to have a good time! He’s just like many of my friends young and dumb. Now the young man that passed away.. I’m sure he would still be here if he did not decide to take the drug, it was ultimately his decision to say yea I’ll take some and want his brother to drop him off with his “FRIEND”. Now some people can say well if the young mans brother dropped him off at MC D’s or met him at MC D’s and knew that Tim had this drug that he offered to him and knew that they were going to a party to use that drug.. Now why didn’t he report them to the cops or his parents? He did state that Tim offered it to him as well but he declined right? Also, what about the website that is selling or even manufacturing these products to these young dumb “adults”? bottom line, Tim bought the product with the understanding of it being legal going to take it at a party, He mets up with his friend, Tim: “hey check out what i got online. You want some?…Tim’s friend: Sweet man, yea give me some.. Tim: Hey john, i got some 2-CE of the Internet, want some?? Tim’s friends Brother: …. naw, man…The two guys go to the party and start drinking other friends at the party “find out” that their friend have this product…Friends at the party: Hey Tim, let me get some.. Okay…. You are who your friends are……. It’s not the way parents raise us, it’s just way it is, You make friends in elementary school, you end up growing up with them to Jr. High and start making new friends. Some are carefree and do whatever they want and some are careful and do what they are supposed to do then it gets worse in Sr High!!. When kids start hanging out more with the carefree crowd and the crowd just gets bigger and more wild.., you become “carefree” and start doing whatever you want to do, doing whatever to have fun, drugs get introduced and next thing you know your partying and doing drugs not ever thinking about consequences and you’ve become who you became friends with.. If your going to blame Tim for 3rd degree murder, They should be charging the people/website that sold it to Tim as well. Trevor would not have overdosed if Tim wasn’t able to buy the product online. What about the people who manufactured the drug, They wouldn’t be able to sell the product online if certain people did not make it.. There is a huge blaming game/ blaming ladder, I’m not saying that Tim should not have consequences or charged with anything, But MURDER… Come on now,he didn’t shoot his friend in the head or anything, He didn’t want his friend to die or even try by any means to have his friend die… i could see involuntary manslaughter or something in that case. It was his friend, Also remember He has to live with that for the rest of his life, How would you feel if you accidentally killed one of your friends with drugs, alcohol, or even if you just gave your friend something that they were allergic to and had no idea and they had a sever reaction and died??… I’m sure that Trevors family is extremely hurt and wants justice and someone to pay for what happened, as we all would if we were in that situation, and Tim’s family prob feels absolutely horrible, stressed out, shocked, embarrassed and hurt as well ( they could know trevor too as he was freinds with their son) and is praying for Trevor and his family. Just please stop with the blaming game, or saying Ohh this is going to happen, YOU DONT KNOW THAT SHUT UP!! That’s for the courts/judge to decide. I personally feel horrible for both families and pray for everyone! This is a tragedy and more education, guest speakers from young peers that have had something like this happen, really do need to happen more in schools, When adults come in there all of us are alike psshhh whatever, but when younger peers appear we do tend to listen more. Again my thoughts and prayers go out to both families and friends!!!

    1. Guy says:

      Hey; kid – here is a CLUE – not everything that is “legal” is GOOD for you. Your mommy may have kept you wrapped in a blankey and padded all of the sharp corners everywhere you went as a baby… THE UNIVERSE IS NOT LIKE THAT. It has sharp edges and cliffs to fall off of. If you insist on acting stupid or “carefree”; it WILL turn around a bite you. Either wake up and take responsibility for yourself (gods-what a concept) or go die and earn your Darwin Award before you pass your defects on to the next generation … because your friend Trevor is now like all of your
      other friends will be if they continue – “young and stupid” – AND DEAD!

      (OH and PS. I NEVER did drugs … or alcohol .. or cigerettes when I was a teen or
      hung out with people who thought that that was a smart thing to do…)

  39. Tom says:

    While this a tragic event. And I do feel for the family. But if they are charging this young adult just for the sake of charging him so that somebody gets held responsible for this tragic event that is not right either. You had about 12 people in that house, this young adult brought the (legal) drug too the house. And he passed the drug out too everybody with the intention of getting “high” and everybody had a bad reaction to it and all got sent too the hospital. And tragically one did not make it. All the young adults that were in that house at that time all made a choice too take that drug. If this drug that this young adult brought into the house was a “illegal” drug then it would be a different story.

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