Bill To Require Minn. Photo ID To Vote Gains Steam

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — The chief House sponsor of a bill to require a photo ID for voting in Minnesota says she expects the Legislature to pass it soon, and to bypass Gov. Mark Dayton if he vetoes it.

The House Transportation Committee approved the bill Monday. It’s cleared numerous House and Senate committees, and Rep. Mary Kiffmeyer of Big Lake says she expects floor votes next week.

Republican backers say the change is needed to boost confidence in election results and streamline voting. But Dayton and Democrats have expressed concerns it could make voting more difficult for some people.

Kiffmeyer said Monday she believes there is broad public support for the change and that if Dayton were to veto it she would push for a statewide vote on the issue in 2012.

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  • K.

    Why did it ever change? I remember it was required years ago. Anyway, I think it is a good thing to do. I don’t understand the opposition to it. The only thing I can think of is that those who stand to lose the most from this bill are the ones who would oppose it and, in my mind, those people would tend to be those who have committed voter fraud in the past and would like to continue to do so in the future.

    • jimmy

      When Kiffmeyer was SOS I moved from one side of Maple Grove to the other. When I went to change my address on my drivers license I was told that by checking a box on the form I would be registered to vote. That was in Sept. and 4 weeks after that I got my new license. Imagine my surprise after standing in line to vote for 20 minutes that I was not registered.. I was told by the election judge that Kiffmeyer did not like people to register that way and would not process them. To answer your question all a governor would have to do is slow the processing of photo ID’s down a few months before the election to control voter turnout. .

      • Citizen of Minnesota

        Jimmy. You get it! The effect of this bill is to provide some control over who votes. The Republicans can’t stand the idea of not having a PERFECT election. They are scared to death that someone will vote who shouldn’t, or vote twice, or vote in the wrong precinct, etc. In reality, there is very, very little of any of these problems. So, you have to look at who will be disenfranchised: older people, students, minorities. Many of these voters vote Democratic or for liberals. Republicans want to make it harder for them. As an election judge, I can tell you how much it will clog the process. There is basically no reason for this bill. Veto, Governor Dayton!

        • A MN Voter

          The Dem’s changed it in order to more easily sway election results. They claimed that requiring an ID card was a violation of minority civil rights. It has taken the voting public a while to realize that the only people being disenfranchised were the true inhabitants of this State. If you consider that some counties that went for Franken reported more votes than registered voters in that county you can see the benefit from not having to show ID to vote. Dayton will veto it and we will have to override the veto. If someone shows up on election day and is not on the voter rolls but has an ID to prove who they are and where they live they will still be able to vote. As an election judge your job is to make sure the process is fair and frankly perfection should be the goal. We expect no less.

          • MARK

            By “true inhabitants of this state” I assume you mean Native Americans?

            • Rusty Shackelford

              No not the Native Americans, The brave European Americans who revolutionized this country and made it great Mark. Our land. Go to school, a non-liberal brain washing school, or figure it out on your own. Become more diversified, you have been tricked my friend.

        • dan

          I am sure ACORN will make a drive to get all the seniors photo ID’s at the nursing home so they can vote. Oh ya that’s right they were shut down due to voter fraud. Well maybe you can play some ads on Air America to get out the vote. Oh ya, nobody listens to Lib radio.

          Yes, Citizen we do expect Perfect elections. The case of the WI gal who lost 17,000 votes behind her desk. Convenient considering this was the difference in a Republican winning an election. I guess in your world a vote here or there doesnt make much difference. Nice to see how election judges in MN really feel

          • MARK

            Republicans continue to play the victim card. I’m sure they’d win every election if it wasn’t for some kind of imagined fraud taking place.

            • StraycatStrut

              So Mark…. why would Gov DumHead veto a correct ID to vote…?

              • MARK

                StraycatStrut (if that’s really your name), I don’t know why Governor Dayton would veto it. I don’t have all the facts about this issue, but I’d support some kind of ID to vote. Frankly, I’m surprised such a thing doesn’t already exist. I guess I’m just tired of listening to Republicans whine about how they’re the victims of some vast liberal conspiracy to disenfranchise rich white men. It’s ludicrous.

          • Kate

            Acorn was shut down due to voter fraud? Wow? What planet are you from? Voter fraud had nothing to do with that.

        • Rusty Shackelford

          Funny, my view is the complete opposite “citizen ‘. Once again your sheltered ignorrant mind fails you. We want to end the criminal voting practices of illegal voting activities. People knowingly voting twice, felons voting, etc… My biggest problem is, most of you know this and hide behind false accusations. You are lucky we live in a forgiving country with liberal laws.

          • MARK

            Rusty Shackelford = internet tough guy

  • Helper

    Why are republicans such racist bigots?

    • A MN Voter

      If you define a bigot as someone who believes everyone who wants to vote in a Minnesota election actually be a resident of Minnesota and show proof with a Minnesota ID card then I would have to say that I am a proud bigot by your definition. My neighbor is a proud Democrat who also agrees that showing a MN ID card should be required in order to vote. I guess your party is full of bigots as well.

    • Rusty Shackelford

      You live in a fantasy world “Helper”, the name you put on here alone tells me you think you know the path to your own selfish utopian society. Get a life, get a job, go to school, and read a book.

    • Jake

      Why does Helper rely on broad-sweeping, unsupported generalizations and ad hominem attacks? If there is no substance on your side, you might as well paint those with whom you disagree with a label that is hard to disprove.

      It stands to reason that if the black community starts to realize they have been duped into supporting the left (despite black people being generally conservative as a group) for fifty years only to be left in a worse state relative to other ethnic groups, the left has nothing . . . left . . . but to call the other guys racist to avoid their own accountability. The left might hold the black vote a few more cycles, but eventually they will see the charade.

      To be sure, Helper, where is the racist tone in any of the messages supporting the voter ID proposal? I don’t think anyone credibly believes it’s a racial concern. Rather, it is the limo liberal folk and union and community organizers that would have the capacity to stuff a ballot box in the numbers needed to win extremely close elections. I reckon almost all of those folks are white.

      • Rusty Shackelford

        Good points Jake.

        • Kate

          please show me a case of convicted voter fraud in mn? Can’t? Why? Because it doesn’t happen.

  • KMM

    Come on Dayton, do the right thing and pass this bill. Everyone who is here legally is supposed to have an I.D. This should be a no-brainer. Unfortunatley, I do not have alot of confidence in this Govenor……

  • TM

    Dayton is a boob



    • Kate

      please show me a case of convicted voter fraud in mn? Can’t? Why? Because it doesn’t happen.

  • Wes

    I worked at as an election judge last year. Most folks presented their driver’s license as they walked up to the table. The only ones to object are the ones that shouldn’t be voting in the first place. What do you think it is all about. Duh!

  • Bob

    The left sounds like chicken little… usual…..

    • fed up


  • Voter

    Is anyone besides me concerned that this bill also allows a poll challenger to challenge anyone? These poll challengers do NOT take an oath to follow election law—but rather they represent a political party. Anyone who is challenged would not be able to vote on Election Day—they would be provided a provisional ballot and then have to go to the County Auditor to plead their case. I can hear it already—instead of a bunch of frivolous challenges to ballots there would be a lot of frivolous challenges to someone’s right to vote. Ya, great system you’re creating Kiffmeyer.

  • Pencils Down Class

    The people who are opposed to this know for a fact there would have been several *different* outcomes in many Minnesota elections just in the past 2 years, plain and simple. Registered voters are to only ones who should be voting, this isn’t rocket science. Technically, under the current policy, a few million Canadians could cross the border and vote Minnesota into being the new Canadian Province under the current procedure. There ya go, conquest by idiocy! Or better yet, just have them mail us their votes, same thing. No need to be a resident or even present.

    • MARK

      Since you know for a fact that some elections in this state would have had different outcomes if we had this policy, I’m sure you can point them out to us or provide a link or something. I agree that only registered voters should vote, obviously. But your Canadian “example” is absurd and doesn’t help your argument.

      • Jake

        Wait. I want to hear more about this Canadian Province thing. I suppose we would probably be even worse at hockey relative to our new fellow Canadian teams, but we would have to do better in football, wouldn’t you think? We could probably keep calling it the Mall of America if we stick the word “North” in there. It’d be kinda fun to be able to blame the U.S for everything without feeling so much guilt all the time, too.

      • Pencils Down Class

        A little investigation on your own would do you wonders. But here ya go none the less. Latest Governor vote margin was less than 9000 votes. Senator Franken’s elections was down to less than 200 votes. Just to name the latest two big ones. Now lets break this down a bit for ya:

        82% of the 5,303,925 people from the 2010 census where of age to vote so 4349218.5 people could have potentially voted. Now 9000 votes decided the winner. There was a 69.8% voter turn out for this election. But just to show you how rediculously simple this is, lets just go with an even 50% turnout of the voters, (2174609 voters), thats a .414% of the total people who voted. Less than 1/2 a percent. The Franken election is even less significant.

        Yes, I know, I know, it’s easy to be you. You don’t want to find out the truth, you just want to be told what to do, what to think, and whats right without any reasoning behind it.

  • Chuck C.

    I want a FAIR election! Showing my Photo ID SHOLD be required. It should NOT be about who is Republican or Demacrate when it comes down to showing your ID to Vote. Look how much money, in my mind, was WASTED during the Colman Fraken, and the Emmer Dayton election re-count. I strongly believe that if we showed Photo ID this would have never happened, or got dragged out for as long as it did!

    FYI, I am a Democrate.

    • Kate

      Please show me a case of voter fraud in MN? Can’t? Cause it doesn’t happen. It will only take 60 million dollars to take away your right to vote. Didn’t think it was that cheap.

  • Chris K


  • Victim Du Jour

    ACORN people have been convicted of voter registration fraud, and they have found Felons, and Felons in prison who have been registered to vote.

    Based on convictions in the State of Minnesota, there is evidence of vote fraud.

  • Phil Mcrackin

    Show your photo ID or get the F out. Pretty simple. Those who disagree should already be on the next banana boat out of here.

    • Kate

      It only took 60 million dollars to take your rights away. Didn’t know you were so cheap.

  • Chuck

    Sorry Phil: Can’t agree with you. My 93 year old father no longer has a drivers license, he lives 15 miles from the county seat. He will have a very dificult time getting to where he can get a photo ID and for those of us who live in outstate Minnesota this is a problem. Second, I hope, if this is signed into law that you do not move in the 90 days or so before the election or you will NOT be able to vote as your address will be wrong for the area you are to vote in. Does this totally get rid of the absentee ballot? That does not seem right either.

  • Victim Du Jour

    Playing dumb is so important to people who oppose this law.

    They make people show their junk in a body scanner at the airport, yet it’s such a travesty to show an ID when you vote.

    Old people can show their expired ID’s when they vote.

  • Herb

    So how much does an official state ID cost? I am with the program if the State provides funding for those who can not afford the $25 or $35 application fee. Once again the Republican party is trying to disenfranchise poorer voters. I agree that election fraud is a problem in the US. However, voter ID’s would not stem the fraud because most of the fraud is committed by Republican manipulation of Diebold paperless voting machines. Blackwell (president of Diebold, designers of the machine and it’s lack of vote verification retrieval )as much as said that he would deliver the votes for George W. Bush, and he did. With that and the help of the Republican supreme court “W” was given the Presidency.Frankly, it was the only way “w” was ever going to be president.

    Let’s hear all of the snappy retorts to these facts. This and other issues the Republicans are seemingly objecting to are just another distraction from the fact that the Republicans have bought political control in this country and the individuals vote has little relevance concerning who actually makes policy in the US. Money talks . . . .

  • Jake

    We should start voting American Idol-style: anonymously texting in our votes. Sure, I suppose there’s a chance people might vote a bunch of times and so on, but hey, if they pay the standard text messaging fee we could raise a bunch of money for the new stadium.

  • Murph

    I guess numbers tattooed on your wrist would just be a little too telling! The fascists have you where they want you!

  • Patriot

    Picture ID’s for poor people will cost the state plenty of money, and at a time when there is so much budget cutting going on everywhere else. Plenty of people get fake drivers’ licenses and IDs. This bill is not going to stop that type of voter fraud. It will, however, make it very difficult for college students, the elderly, and the poor to vote. One thing the bill will do is make the right wingnuts feel superior and in charge at a substantial cost to the taxpayers. No election is perfect–nothing in this world is perfect because humans aren’t perfect. We all do the best we can. There was another society just before WWII that sought perfection in its concept of humanity, government, and culture….

  • Phil Mcrackin

    Holy crap, Just because you are poor you should not be responsible? How stupid is that? The reason most people are poor is because they are not responsible.
    Just more evidence this country keeps dummying down.

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