ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — The Minnesota House has approved a tax budget bill unlikely to get support from Gov. Mark Dayton.

The Republican-controlled House passed the tax bill on a 71-58 vote early Wednesday. The bill completely phases out state aid to the cities of Minneapolis, St. Paul and Duluth over the next few years.

That’s prompted cries of political retribution since those cities have elected only Democrats to the Legislature for years. The Republican plan does reduce aid to other cities and counties but not as drastically.

Dayton has been a vocal supporter of state aid to cities. In addition, he has vowed not to support any Republican budget bills that aren’t part of a larger agreement on the state’s two-year budget.

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Comments (28)
  1. la de da says:

    Well you dont need to be the smartest person to understand that Democrat popular cities get more funding than Republican cities do. So what if they get a cutback, we all do at some times. Strive above it , and make do with what you have. It will hurt for a bit , but lets look at the bigger picture here, DEBT!

    1. Concerned says:

      Cutback =/= elimination. Cutbacks I might understand. Further, I’d love to see actual numbers to see if your “republican cities get less” assertion is true, or merely made up.

    2. Walker says:

      @ la de da
      You might not be as smart as you think.
      look and see you will find their proposal was to cut Minneapolis, St Paul and Duluth. 141 million of the 426.5 million spent. The Republican should in your words strive above it and perhaps next time you might check your facts before posting.

  2. Winner says:

    Meanwhile Republicans keep playing with themselves instead of creating jobs.

    The typical republican is too stupid to realize tax cuts do not create jobs only add more money to the pocket of the uber rich.

    The typical Republican is poor and lives in the suburbs in a house they overpaid for…

    1. Doug T says:

      Dude – the government does not create jobs. Lowering taxes does – as it free up money to be better spent or invested in real growth… What do you think the “uber rich” do with this money – bury it in their back yards? – no they invest it (or spend it) both of which grows the economy – creating jobs – for people who want to work and not just get some tax payer extorted charity money….

      1. Tom says:

        Doug T

        Actually the gov’t does create jobs. Govt decides on what roads and or bridges get replaced. Case in point the Stillwater Bridge. And back in the 90’s when Clinton raised the taxes on the rich how many jobs that created 22 million jobs. When Bush cut taxes and that created 8 million jobs in 8 years. And another thing Doug T the middle class and lower class drive the economy not the rich. A comany bases their hiring on supply and demand. You can give the rich all the tax cuts you want if the demand for their product or service is not there why would they feel the need to hire. Tax cuts do not drive economy, supply and demand does.

        And the other thing is if higher taxes kill job growth then maybe the rich should hold a press conference and just come out and say it instead of leaving it up to the GOP to say it.

      2. jon says:

        Lowering taxes just puts that money into the few rich business owners and stock holders. They do not use the money to create jobs as we have witnessed the past few years. CEO’s make more now than they did right before the financial crisis hit yet look at unemployment.

      3. Gov can create jobs says:

        Goverment can indeed create jobs and it has been proven that it does. Lowering taxes on the wealthy so they can create jobs has been a therory since the 80’s and it has NOT created jobs and does not and will not. Never has. Never will. The Bush tax cuts have been in place for years and we are at 9% unemployment – wth

      4. Preineja says:

        Lower taxes does not create jobs. If that was true we would have full employment. The rich are paying the lowest taxes since WWII, when the rate was 70%. Lower taxes on the rich only fills their already stuffed pockets. It’s all about GREED!

    2. dan says:

      So Winner, are you saying that raising taxes does create jobs?

      1. Citizen says:

        @dan. Yes, throughout U.S. Tax history raising taxes on the rich has provided prosperity. The rich were taxed at 91% during Dwight Eisenhower’s years as president, and there was prosperity. Whenever the rich get their taxes lowered we have had recessions. And the rich have not created jobs with the “trickle down” theory they’ve been yapping about since the days of the robber barons.

        1. dan says:

          My question was do raising taxes create jobs? Past prosperity in no indication of future prosperity as we are in a much lager global market and with instant information access you can not go back to the `1950’s to prove a point

          1. Unfair question says:

            Interesting question you ask. Does raising taxes create jobs? I don’t think anybody has said that raising taxes has created jobs. It is a weak argument to support not raising taxes. Taxes are not raised to create jobs, they are raised as the cost of running Minnesota services increase its cost. Everything has gone up. Those who oppose raising taxes used to say we need to cut back our services, yet today because jobs is a hot issue, they now say that they need to stop raising taxes to create jobs. Stopping the increase of taxes has never created jobs and many in the know will say tyhe same. It is just a political thing to say as if it is fact as if we need to be afraid of the other side who say they need to raise taxes as if we should stop them at any cost even if it kills them. Truth is they are saying they need to not raise axes to support the tax breaks they have given the rich.

            1. dan says:

              It was just a question as Winner stated that lowering taxes doesnt create jobs. It wasnt a statement or reason for larger tax breaks.
              You bring up an interesting point about being political in the tax arguement.
              Wasnt it Obama that extended the Bush tax cuts? Looks like our leader felt it was important to keep the policy in place. Oh thats right, hes one of the rich. the pay your share doesnt include him or Geitner who is also a tax cheat. Great people we have running this Country.

  3. st paul says:


    the typical republican is poor… oh really?
    I live in MacGroveland… where do you live?

    Doug is right – and those RICH republicans, who own businesses, create jobs.

    Cutbacks are cutbacks, for the last 3 years I haven’t had a raise…
    we all go through it.

    1. Citizen says:

      @st paul. I agree with Winner based on the yard signs I see during election years. Little shotgun houses with big GOP signs. So sad. No working man in this country should vote Republican. Please see my post below about the history of the rich paying taxes and creating prosperty. You and Doug are not learning from history–just spouting spin.

      1. st paul says:

        Just remember, the houses that don’t have signs in your neighborhood, are probably conservative. Quiet, and kept to themselves.

  4. Citizen says:

    How about just providing a history lesson. $100,000,000 a year wasn’t enough for one CEO who gave up his U.S. citizenship to avoid paying only $20,000,000 in taxes. GEEZ! What does it really take to have a decent middle class life? I would guess less than $100,000 a year. Back when the income tax was first enacted the amount of money it took to provide food, shelter, clothing, basic necessities was not taxed–only the excess (as determined by government stats, of course). A couple of world wars saw all income starting to be taxed. In the 1920′s the rich had already started complaining and yapping about the “trickle down” theory. Their taxes were lowered–we got the Great Depression. Taxes went up on the rich and we had post-WWII prosperity. Under “Ike” the rich paid taxes on 91% of their income. And we had prosperity. Then under JFK and LBJ the rich started the old mantra of lower my taxes, and Reagan perfected that with his snake oil “trickle down” theory. Finally, we have had another recession. The truth of history of the U.S. Tax Code is that high taxes on the rich produce jobs and prosperity and Democratic administrations expand the stock market and low taxes have produced the Great Depression and our latest recession. History tells us what to do. Those who DO NOT LEARN from history are doomed to repeat it.

    1. Claire says:

      Wow, I just saw a Mack Truck drive thru the middle of your theory……Lowered taxes caused the Great Depression? Makes a great point but not real factual Citizen

      1. Citizen says:

        @Claire. So you don’t believe me? Read history. Read Barlett & Steele’s book, “Who really pays the Taxes.” You can document on a timeline the tax hikes on the rich and the prosperity that follows. Or, you can do your own research. Whatever you like. I don’t expect a conservative like you to understand history, however. You like to make up your own spin and facts. And yes, lowered taxes on the WEALTHY was one of the main causes of the Great Depression. I know that hurts the fairy tales that you conservatives like to delude people with.

        1. Claire says:

          I make up my own spin and facts. What facts have I misrepresented? You state the Depression was caused by Lowering taxes and you claim I spin the facts? If you would answer a direct question we could have a more meaningful discussion. Instead you choose to jump around beat your drum and have nothing to say except ” yeah, but………………”
          Here are a few important facts that led to the Depression:
          Stock Market Crash
          Unsavy Market Investors
          International Trade collapse
          Finc Institutions Structure
          Gold Standards
          Population Dynamics
          Easing of lending practices
          Do these sound familar? They should as we have the same issues throughout the 90’s and especially today.

        2. Southern MN Mom says:


          When you are getting your butt kicked by a woman go to your room and pray no one saw it!


    2. Comrade Lenin and Chairman Mao says:

      Comrade Citizen-

      Once again we love your thinking! Just keep writing and working to give government the power to control EVERYTHING, redistribute whatever property successful people have earned and ban capitalism totally.

      Of course you must understand there WILL be resistance and probably a very tough CIVIL WAR. If you win Comrade Citizen, shoot or send to labor camps all who think free enterprise is good. You will have to be tough and ruthless comrade, because you will face determined and armed resistance.

      Socialism/Marxism/Communism will last for only 40-60 years. The problem we both discovered comrade is in the next generation. When the people who put total socialism in place are all dead, you will be forced to watch from your grave as your nation once again adopts capitalism, free enterprise and the freedoms that go with it. It seems as you pointed out, “Those who DO NOT LEARN from history are doomed to repeat it.”

      THIS HAS BEEN THE HARDEST PART FOR BOTH OF US COMRADE CITIZEN. It is very hard watching from our graves as our beloved “Mother Lands” of Russia and China adopt capitalism when all intellectually superior people know “Capitalism is Evil.”

      Both of us are really excited about your constant Marxist/Socialist writings on this computer site. You give us hope for the future comrade!

      Comrade Lenin and Chairman Mao!

  5. jon says:

    This is how republicans raise taxes. Democrats tax at the state level and republicans pass it down to the local level and then preach how they never raise taxes. Some voters realize this and others do not.

    1. Chamber of Commerce says:

      So true. The Chamber of Commerce recently said of Minnesota that cutting pretty much everything will and has caused very high property tax and poor goverment services that is not good for business. They recomend that Minnesota make cuts and also raise revenue.

    2. Claire says:

      Just the way you like to raise taxes on small business owners who have no choice to pass it along to their customers. No matter what you do it will trickle down to the end consumer, rich or poor. have you noticed the rise in grocery prices in the past 2 months? Never mentioned on the news, but make a difference in everyones home budget.

  6. st paul says:


    you rock!!!!

    #1 fan,
    St Paul 🙂

    Go GOP!

    1. Claire says:

      Kudo’s to St Paul! I love those candy bars!

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