State Shutdown Enters Day 9 With No Solution In Sight

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO/AP) — Instead of sending Minnesota’s elected leaders into a frenzy of activity, the nation’s only state government shutdown has deepened the political paralysis that led them to their budget standoff. Top Democrats and Republicans have given no sign when they will talk again about how to resolve the stalemate.

The only activity at the capitol Saturday didn’t include politicians. Protesters with the Minnesota Environmental Partnership pitched tents and called for compromise indoors and outdoors.

“If you don’t have a fishing license right now, you are out of luck. If you want to camp in a state park right now, you are out of luck,” said Molly Pederson, a protester who held a sign saying: Minnesota’s outdoors aren’t a DFL or GOP issue.

As the ninth day of the shutdown came to a close, only one tent remained outside the Capitol after the protest ended. That tent belonged to Jason Moran, who has camped outside of the Capitol since the beginning of the shutdown. He’s a furloughed state pollution control emergency responder and is now worried Minnesota is headed towards disaster.

“They’re gone, it doesn’t feel like they care, doesn’t feel like there is any end in sight to this,” he said. “I’ve just been coming out every day since the layoff started, because I want there to be a presence.”

Moran passes the time by turning to history, something he says lawmakers should do.

“I am reading a book on President James Monroe. It’s kind of fitting, because he ushered in the Era of Good Feelings, where all the parties got along and all respected each other,” he said.

University of Minnesota political science professor Larry Jacobs said the on-going shutdown is doing great damage to the state. He says Minnesota’s image as a miracle state has been tarnished.

“There are some estimates Minnesotans may be losing upwards of $18 million a week to the shutdown, and that doesn’t include a host of other costs, including the higher costs to borrow money,” Jacobs said.

The last time lawmakers sat down to talk was Wednesday.

After blowing May and June deadlines to agree on a budget, Democratic Gov. Mark Dayton and Republican legislative leaders have met only twice — once for less than 30 minutes — and have made no apparent progress since most of state government closed July 1. There’s little sense of urgency, even with 22,000 state employees idled, 100 road projects stopped, 66 state parks barricaded, an assortment of services discontinued and the state’s top credit rating tarnished.

The lack of action contrasts with what’s been happening in Washington, where an Aug. 2 deadline to raise the debt ceiling has lawmakers scrambling for a deal that would keep the U.S. from a potential default on its debt. President Barack Obama has summoned leaders for a rare weekend session and aides are trading proposals behind the scenes.

While the consequences of the state’s inaction hardly reach that scale, that’s little consolation for public workers who won’t be getting paychecks or people with disabilities who have lost social services.

“My thoughts would just be to encourage them to continue to meet and talk and try to work on a compromise that will benefit the entire state of Minnesota,” said Mary Nienow, who directs a child care advocacy organization, Child Care Works. She said her group is getting dozens of emails a day from families worried that they will lose their child care assistance.

The key players had one brief session at midweek that ended with the two sides accusing each other of taking a step backward. Speaking to reporters after each session, they have said nothing that suggests progress.

“Sometimes no news is good news, but in this case I’m not sure,” said former Minnesota House Minority Leader Marty Seifert, who represented Republicans in budget talks from 2007 until 2009. “In this case, no news is no news because it means there probably is nothing to report and it means nothing is going on.”

He added: “Really, I’m not sure that it’s any different than where they were on Jan. 8. It must be an incredible sense of frustration on both sides, and the general public is rather frustrated, too.”

The courts have taken some of the worst sting out of the shutdown. Decisions by a judge and a special master have restored services like special education payments to schools, state aid for training for the blind, and emergency crisis aid for the poor. More such rulings are likely on the way.

But some groups’ requests have been rejected, so the shutdown means continuing pain for them. Arc Minnesota, a St. Paul nonprofit that helps people with disabilities, has suspended 90 percent of a housing service since losing its state funding. The program helped more than 200 people, including some who were homeless and others who were institutionalized, find their own housing in the past 18 months.

“We really worry about what those people will do,” CEO Pat Mellenthin said.

The shutdown’s effects are wide-ranging. It has closed historical sites and rest stops, shut down the state lottery, made it tougher to get a driver’s license and halted the issuance of hunting and fishing licenses.

Much of the political dispute comes down to differences over how much to spend on health programs and social services and how to pay for it.

Republicans want to eliminate a $5 billion deficit by cutting projected spending and holding the two-year state budget to $34 billion, the amount projected to come in without new revenue.

But the state’s budget is being squeezed as enrollment and costs for public schools and health care programs grow and as the state, like others, copes with the loss of federal stimulus dollars. Dayton wants to soften cuts by raising another $1.4 billion; his latest offer relies on either a temporary income tax increase on top earners or higher cigarette taxes. House Speaker Kurt Zellers and Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch have rejected both options.

Both sides are dug in. Each says it’s up to the other to move.

In 2005, a more limited partial government shutdown ended after eight days when lawmakers and then-Gov. Tim Pawlenty, now a presidential candidate, agreed on a 75-cents-a-pack cigarette charge they called a “health impact fee.” During that shutdown, leaders of a divided Legislature met frequently and traded substantive offers. Back then, the leaders and Gov. Tim Pawlenty’s chief of staff spent part of a Fourth of July weekend in talks; this year, the weekend was a long cooling-off period.

It appears that a solution this year will require some form of new revenue, just as 2005 did.

Dayton has more room to operate than Koch and Zellers, who have to line up votes from a caucus that includes a new, powerful faction of lawmakers dead-set against spending increases and others who hope for a quick way out of the shutdown.

“If they make a deal and they don’t have the votes to pass it, that’s a difficult position to be in, obviously,” said Rep. Kurt Daudt, a first-term Republican from Crown who opposes tax increases and gambling.

Sunday marks the longest state shutdown in Minnesota’s history and hits a national record. A minimum ten day shutdown would mark the longest state shutdown in the nation in at least a decade.

No new talks are scheduled. Dayton will be out-of-state Sunday as he sends off troops at a deployment ceremony in Fort McCoy, Wis.

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  • jim osekowsky

    Are there”shutdowns” in China?

    • Mike

      dayton and the dems think they can win by doing a shutdown. Well, bring it on, dayton. Will just see about that in 2012.

      • Deb

        foolish person YOU are!! Dayton has made concessions, what have the republicans done??? Recall republicans NOW!!

        • Alfred

          Read a newspaper dear, you are embarrassing your self.

          • Mike

            By all accounts Republicans are unwilling to compromise. What part of that has not been told in the media?

        • Jim Peterson

          The Republicans passed a budget with a 6 percent INCREASE in state spending. That’s what the Republicans have done. It’s DAYTON that refused to sign off on that sizable increase in spending, and Dayton is the ONLY one to blame here.

          Have you not been paying attention, or are you so gullable that you just go along with what the rest of the Liberals say and not think for yourself?

        • King

          The arrogant republicans want to destroy the government,we do need to
          increase the income tax on the rich, and repubilcans need to get off there
          high horses for the people of are state.

      • something to say

        All the Dems want is a 2% tax on the rich. How hard is that. Are your daughter, son, niece or nephews important at all. When will the cutting of education end, when we are back to the old days of one room school houses? And for your information, when Dayton proposed this tax on the rich, he also was taxing himself, doesn’t that tell you something? He’s not just going after someone else, he is including himself. The Republicans are still taking their wages and Dayton is NOT! Yet the state employees are not being paid. Tells me a lot about the Republicans!! The Republicans only care about themselves and not for the people that they are supposeably working for.

        • Guy

          BETTER to be back in the era of “one room school houses”. Kids actually LEARNED something then. Now its all about “esteem” and “feel-good-but don’t-hurt-anyone’s-feelings” … yuk/ugh. Kids that can’t find CANADA on a map when they graduate – but they sure can fill out that welfare app. you betcha.

          • Dale

            No child left behind leads teaching to do well on the mandated tests. Judging from your numerous posts, you clearly have failed in the area of critical thinking

        • Stacy

          Dayton is not going to be taxed. Most of his money is in South Dakota in his trust fund. Get your facts right!

          • Larry

            exactly!! Dayton makes sure his millions aren’t effected. Dayton is a ‘poor’ little rich boy, silver spooned kid who’s never had a hard working job in his life. He doesn’t know what it means to work hard for what you earned, hes had it all given to him…..along with his rich spoiled sons. Daytons out of touch, out of reality. Mn liberal voters were blind the day they voted him in.

        • telm

          “. . .When will the cutting of education end . . . ”

          We have NEVER cut education. Education gets more and more money, every year. It’s a bloated fish. We spend Way Too Much on education that doesn’t work.

          • frozenrunner

            Education suffers as there is more mandates for testing. Nickels compared to 15 billion but 30 million for 61 tests. Driving up the cost of education is the almost 3 billion for special education, which is labor intensive. When you say it is bloated could you at least offer proof. The it is because I say it is is rather grandiose.

      • Mike


        Gov Daytons term runs until 2014. Sorry to deflate your stupidity.

        • Mike

          Dems out out in 2012. just watch.

      • bb

        You think, the repubs are the ones unwilling to compromise, ya we will see you in 2012 repubs. Dayton stick to your guns and send a message that the top 2 percent must share the pain and pay their fair share.

        • Bill

          LOL How does it feel to be Obamas Guinea Pig you Liberal minnesotans

          • something to say

            Just an interesting fact…
            There are 134 in the House of Representatives for Minnesota.
            According to the clerk of the House of Representatives, both state representatives and senators make $174,000 per year, as of 2010. The speaker gets $223,500, while the majority and minority leaders earn $193,400. The salaries change every year according to the cost of living, if not by legislative action. (Wish my paycheck could change for the cost of living as theirs do.)
            Add that up it cost us…
            $23,316,000.00 For people that cannot put a budget together in a year, but wait until the last minute and then shut down everything that is making money and still get a paycheck. Wish I could do that with my job! At least Dayton refused a paycheck.
            I’m not saying that Dayton does not have faults, he does, but raising taxes to match everyone elses taxes, doesn’t sound bad to me. Is there more to that story? I’m surfing the internet and all I see are Rep and Dems cutting eachother down…can they just get to the real issue or is this going to be another cheap movie you go to see and it just wasn’t worth it??!

    • G

      Yes, every year for 2 weeks

    • It's Not Rocket Science

      No. If anyone complains about anything they just throw them in prison for a decade.

    • c

      Perhaps recall is the only way. Nonfeasance is listed as a reason for recall. It does seem there is an intentional failure to perform a required duty or obligation in this case. I called and e:mailed both my representatives on June 26 urging compromise and negotiation so we wouldn’t get to this point. I did hear from from one of my representatives but I heard absolutely nothing from the other (Matt Dean). It says that a petition for recall needs 25% of the votes cast in the last election……

      • Citizen

        @c. I wonder if this would be a good argument for recall (from section 3 of the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution). After all, the GOP signed pledges of no new taxes to Sutton and Norquist–unelected third parties who are not accountable to voters. I firmly believe a pledge like this violates the oath of office these legislators took to Minnesota and the U.S.
        Section 3.
        No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

  • See BS

    MPR is reporting they can’t agree on the budget for the Department of Health and Human Services.

    I believe the Health and Human Services has been used as a “Black Box” and a Ponzi scam.

    MPR is practically in the same building, so they want the public to believe it’s complex.

  • Jimq

    You must be the person live off someone else tax. When we’re in debt, don’t you think it make more sense to cut spending vs raise tax? When is it going to end???? Because of some people like you and STUPID governor, he decided to shutdown the government instead of solve tge deficit.

  • oh my

    no blame game here but on good word from higher up Has been they plan to not make any moves for at least up to 4 more weeks before compromising wih dayton. Just the word. And I am beginning to believe that!! True shame that this state has come to that and the people whom say they care about us!!

  • joe

    My comments here. This is a test.

  • al

    funny, but Governor Dayton is running around Wisconsin.

  • joe

    So my comment wasn’t accepted before by the conservative media. Yeah, we all know what’s up with that.

    • MIke


      They have filters that prevent certain words from being printed. Point two, calling WCCO conservative media is a leap and that is coming from a professed liberal!

  • Tax the other Guy

    When a republican negotiates in good faith and goes along with a revenue increase, he gets blasted and blasted for fees going up and property tax increases. If state income taxes would have been increased, he still would get blasted and blasted by the same group of people.

    Maybe we need a checkbox on the tax form that asks…”Are you in favor of a tax increase?” If you check the box, your taxes are increased so you can be happy.

    When it comes to politics, “Minnesota Nice” is a myth because everyone seems to want the “other guy” to be inflicted with higher taxes.

    • frozenrunner

      When Pawlenty says over and over no new taxes but taxes are increase elsewhere so he looks good he deserved to get blasted. Rather than tackle the issues he pushed them off onto other people. Saying that you cut spending when what you are doing is cutting funding to education and local government is a little disingenuous. To top it off by being smug and saying the State cut spending, everybody else can too makes it look all the worse. You have no basis to claim who would have blasted him had Pawlenty raised income taxes. In the end his inability to solve problems cost him a chance for higher office.

    • Darren

      Why can’t we vote on what we want our taxes used for? See whats really important to Minnesotan’s since the government doesn’t seem to know or care what we say.

  • Ruth

    Fire all the state politicians and replace them with people who will get the job done. MN is a laughing stock to the rest of the nation and we have only to look to St. Paul to see exactly where the blame lies. The should be ashamed to show their worthless faces in public, and they should start looking for other employment because when this shutdown ends, so will their livelihoods.

    • Mike

      After you convince voters that you should be Queen, than you can set policy.
      Until then, you need to become part of a solution instead of throwing rocks that only make your arm stronger, and do nothing for your brain or the issues.

  • Christian Wait

    Republicans compromised by passing the largest budget is state history.

    How has Dayton compromised?

  • Just a thought

    Here is a thought… A flat tax to everyone.. then you pay your fair share.. no loop holes, no shelters.. just a set rate from your gross income.. then no one can say they pay more than there fair share. As far as who it to blame>> they all are political parties suck.

    • legal immigrant

      Totally agree!

  • dotherightthing

    The Governor has provided many different senerios to the Republican party it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the republican party will not negotiate with the governor. Its either the republicans way or no way at all that is obvious, to back this up to political statesmen offer to help negotiate Arne Carlson who was governor and who one time ran minnesotas finance, and Walter Mondale once vice president of the united states. What does the GOP majority leadership do..they insult them which shows thier lack of wanting to negotiate at all. There should be an uproar by minesotans to recall the Republican majority leaders because they are not serving the majority of minesotans, they choose to serve the rich who helped pay to get them in offivce, got news for you majority leadership, you’ll lose in 2012 because of what your pulling now say good bye to your jobs……

    • waste

      The rich are already taxed.
      The middle class is taxed.
      Both are concerned and want to know where there taxes are being spent.
      Now we need to tax the other half that do not have any tax obligation.
      Maybe then we will all start to question why we need to have the largest budget ever.
      Where is all this money being spent?

      • Mike


        They buy stadiums for wealthy owners of sports teams.
        They help maintain roads and services.
        They pay educators, police and fire protection.
        They pay for the medical of needs for those that need our help.
        They pay for the welfare of dead beat dad’s who walk away from responsibility.
        They pay for our governing body.
        They pay for our libraries and services.
        On and on………..

      • Citizen

        @Waste. Did you turn on your tap water today–for a shower, a drink, to water some plants on your deck? Water provided to you by your city government, inspection provided to you by the state to be sure the water is potable. Did you drive on a street today? Courtesy of your muncipality, the county, and the state. Was a crime prevented in your neighborhood, was a speeder stopped, was the driver of a broken down car helped on the freeway? Think before you ask a question about where your money is spent. Stop and think about the things that make your life easier every day and you will know where your money is spent. Or, since CONservatives like delusions and science fiction might make good reading for you, read “One Second After” which will tell you in vivid detail what happens when there is NO GOVERNMENT. Happy summer reading!

    • middle of the road

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are serving the majority. They each were elected by the majority of Minnesotans that voted in their districts. I do not support this shut down as it is non productive, but we do have to get spending under control. Can you year after year spend more than you are projected to make?

      • Citizen

        @middle of the road. The state doesn’t get much choice about increasing spending when it needs to provide repair to roads and road building and the price of oil goes up by 40%. Or provide health care for the neediest of us and the price of health care goes up by 15%. So, in order to balance the budget I guess we can quit repairing/building roads and throw the elderly out of nursing homes because by the time a lot of elderly (I think about 60%) get to a nursing home–their finances have been exhausted; they have no choice but Medicaid. I was the conservator for a ward, so I know first hand what happens there. $3,000 to $6,000 a month for PRIVATE nursing home care? What a joke. Those PRIVATE NURSING HOMES are ripping off the taxpayers as fast as they can. PRIVATE, remember that great GOD of the GOP–PRIVATE INDUSTRY? Ripping off the taxpayers. No surprise there. The problem is NOT, REPEAT NOT, public employees or even public works.

      • taxed enough

        Thank you middle of the road, I have been saying that over and over again but it keeps falling on deaf ears. Maybe if enough people say what the elections showed last November it will finally set in.

  • Live free
  • Deb

    I’m totally frustrated as a Minnesotan and an American. What is happening to our state and our country? What has happened to the art of compromise? That is what a society must do to thrive. Our lives are not about being a republican or a democrat. Our future should not be held hostage to a two party system where the only concern is who is right and who is wrong. Representing the citizenry is not a career; it is a public service. You should not get paid a full time salary for a part time job that you chose to perform as a service to the people. Yet, most of the house and senate and their staff continue to be paid to do…what? I agree with Ruth, our only hope is to remove them all at the next election. We must send a message that this will not be tolerated or the bipartisanship will never end. Are you listening St. Paul?

    • Citizen

      @Mike. Is it time for demonstrations with pitchforks and torches yet? I can tell you I am more than ready! The lies coming from the GOP are absolutely absurd with no basis in reality. Since when are the neediest people in our society the enemy? The rich are waging class warfare on the middle class, and they are winning. When will we get organized and deal with this, and it will probably be in the streets. This old granny (me) is ready for hand-to-hand combat to save Minnesota and America for my grandchildren. Anyone else out there ready to put their money where their mouth is? My generation fought in Vietnam only to be branded with the U.S. loss over there, but we did win the civil rights battle and the battle for women’s rights–some of us died in the streets. Well, I guess we will have to go there again, although my 20-something son says Americans no longer have the guts to fight for themselves.

      • ujm

        Take from the rich. Give to the supposed poor. Pure Socialism..

  • dotherightthing

    Jim q your lack of understanding of how deep the cuts are going to be is not unusual, The republican plan cuts so deep the old and vulnerable will suffer dearly. 30,000 public and private sector jobs will be lost which means 30,000 less tax payers and 30,000 more people not being productive and taking from the system from unemployement all so some rich people shouldn’t have to pay as much percentage as taxes as the poor and middle class? The governor has made many comprimises Jim its koch and Zellers who refuse to yield, they should lose thier jobs because they are not representing the state as they promised to…RECALL KOCHS AND ZELLERS!

  • Alfred

    It’s Dayton’s fault.

    The Republicans passed a balanced budget that increased spending two billion dollars.

    They should not compromise with a drug-addled refugee from the nut house.

    • frozenrunner

      Do you really think that there is going to be a 6% economic growth each of the next two years? Do you really think the federal government is going to pass a medicare waiver? You should try and read something about what the GOP passed so you might understand what they passed was unworkable.

      • Guy

        THAT means that we need to cut MORE – not less. Another words you are saying they gave away TOO MUCH. I agree.

        • Reality check people

          sucks when a republican pulls the same stuff democrats do. Heres a thought: quite the class warfare, work together, and if everyone would take responsibility for themselves and not depend on the government we wouldn’t be in this perdicament. I know, I am working 2 jobs to barely make ends meet, and its all because of taxes. If we didn’t have to pay for all the extra BS all the politicians want to spend money on it wouldn’t be this way. We need a new tax system, flat tax, fair tax anything than what we have now and a hudge change in culture. Enough raising wellfare addicts and giving a free ride to all the immegrants.

          • Sean

            How many people got the exception past the 5 year total foe MFIP benefits? If you can not provide that statistic than the system as put forth by Arne Carlson is working. Without statistics you are just ranting.
            For a flat tax system to work there would have to be no other taxes like sales, excise, etc. Get rid of deductions,and tax anything that makes a profit as income is a great idea. You really want to drive business out of this state.

        • Mike

          Why are Liberals so rude when they are trying to make their point? To me Liberal = mean and Nasty, Conservative=respectful and logical. I notice haow you are namecalling. That only makes people not want to listen to you. Maybe if you tried talking about your positions respectfully, people would take you guys more seriously.

  • Alfred

    The good news is that after six months or so of being laid off, the non-essential workers will wander away and find real jobs in the private sector.

    It will save us the trouble of firing them.

    We will save a bundle.

  • Chuck

    My guess is that the shutdown will be overy by the 22 of August, WHY??? Because of schools starting and the state fair. They need the vets and inspectors for the fair.
    Then the politicians can go to the fair and see how well the residents fo the state took the shutdown. Should be fun!!

    • Mike

      Good point! I hope to see a few of those Republican legislatures out there. That could make for some exciting times in the land of “nice”………..

  • Moe

    Yep let’s do the right thing and start a recall on Dayton now!!!!! Boris Yeltsin could do a better job.

    • Mike

      Why recall Gov. Dayton when he is running the state based on his campaign of raising taxes on the upper 2% and supported by 71% of the states populous?

      • Stacy

        Where do you get your numbers? Dayton only got 40% of the vote. I f only two people had been running he would have lost.

        • frozenrunner

          Forgot to add there is no way to determine if the remaining third party voters were the disenfranchised left, center, or right. My guess would be that by the numbers the rght leaning bolted to Emmer. He picked up about what he could.

        • Citizen

          @Stacy. You don’t know if Dayton would have lost. The votes that went to Horner could just have easily gone to Dayton. For a long time voters have only had the choice between the lesser of two evils. Emmer was a convicted drunk with a large family who obviously had used state services, yet, like Michelle Bachmann, he campaigned against what he had used himself. I will not vote for a hypocrite which is why I won’t vote for Obama, nor a Rethug, either. These days 40% is a majority. Build a bridge and get over it and past it.

  • Ali

    Public Union employees will go on strike in a few years and then a government shutdown will be a “good thing” because it will be for their benefit. They are the ones who are causing this budget problem with too many of them and life time inflaton proof pensions that we can never pay…

    • SK

      Crazy! Haven’t you paid attention? Where do you get your news? All of the state employees could be laid off and the budget problem would not be solved. State employees are a fraction of the budget. The two big slices are Health & Human Services and K-12 Education which has caused the structural problem – which is why the State lost their AAA raiting – because Pawlenty never solved this problem and just used gimmicks instead of real revenue. And the current GOP legislators want to use the same kind of gimmicks rather than solve it.

      The problem with state employees is that too many talented individuals will be retiring in the next decade. The budgets have been cut and pinched for years which meant the younger individuals where this knowledge could have been transferred were eliminated. Who are the people will want to come and stay in state service with people like you & the GOP who keep bashing them and want to take away pay and benefits? When the economy is bad, everyone thinks they want to be a public employee. But wait until the economy grows, there won’t be a big rush of talented people wanting those jobs – to be bashed and treated this way. Yes, you do want talented people to work for the state and to stay in those jobs. Everyone claims we need to find a way to do everything better and more streamlined at the state – you need talent to accomplish this and people who will be willing to dedicate themselves to state work.

      You are totally wrong about the pension for state employees. It is true there has been problems with some of the teacher and local govt pensions. But the state pension has been one of the most solid ones. There were losses when the stock market went down – similar to everyone else but the problem was not as extreme because the state pension plan did not go for extreme cost of living raises. And legislation was passed last biennium to increase contributions from the employees to make up these losses.

  • Freedom fighter

    Until Dayton gets in through his head that “we do not want nay more taxes” this thing can last for years as far as I am concerned… What is a few years of this compared to us and our grand kids being forever slaves to big government?

    • frozenrunner

      The majority of the people prefer a balance of spending cuts and tax increases.

      • taxed enough

        says who????

  • Steve B.


  • TuTu

    The Democrats are the ones who need to be recalled. After all they are the
    ones who caused this mess in the first place and it started with that idiot Mr.

    • Mike


      If you look at the states history, you will find that Minnesota is a leader in education and a great place to live. It also has a rich tradition of being led successfully by the Democrat party. All these things have disappeared along with their identity to having been known as “Minnesota nice”. We have been on a steady decline in values and morality through the intransigent leadership of the Republican party. Greedy, immoral, self serving and mean, that is what Minnesota has become. No one can deny that………

      • DARREN

        I can and I do.

      • Stacy

        Minnesota is one of the biggest deadbeat states.

        • Citizen

          @Stacy. You are free to move if you hate Minnesota so much. I am willing to fight for the things I care about–not just criticize. Nothing is ever gained by fingerpointing. The late, great Molly Ivins cautioned about listening to fingerpointers LIKE YOU! We should instead listen to the people who offer solutions. Are you part of the solution or part of the problem?

      • Mark From Minnesota Tax Waste

        Don’t forget the high taxes

        • Citizen

          @Mark from wherever. My above comment to Stacy is directed to you, also. If the taxes are too high you are certainly free to move to South Dakota where there is no income tax. Or Nevada, or Florida, or Texas. See, the great thing about being an American is we have a beautiful huge country in which to pick where we would like to live that matches our philosophy, too. Your constant criticism is a real drag and provides no solutions which is what we need. So become part of the solution or keep being part of the problem. The choice is yours. Either way, those of us who would enjoy a discussion don’t need your whining. You will do yourself a favor to find someplace to live that will make you happier.

  • Minnesota needs to learn how to vote

    You guys are all nuts!! They just need to work together and compromise! Both are equally to blame. Get to work!!! Just because you cant get along or agree doesn’t mean both sides can just throw up their arms and give up, and that is what is happening right now. Both sides are too stubborn. Also Minnesota voters need to learn to vote and things like this wouldn’t happen. You can’t vote for a Democrat governor and a republican house of senate. If you vote that way, you are nuts! They wont agree and out state will shut down. Yes it is horrible that you have to be one sided in how you vote, unless you vote independent, but this is the way politics work in the USA. Stop just voting for people randomly. BECOME EDUCATED VOTERS!

  • Carlton

    Who is the real TuTu? The real TuTu cna answer this: How much of every dollor earned shoud a persone earning $250,000 a year be taxed?

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