Elk River Church’s Practices Stirs Controversy

ELK RIVER, Minn. (WCCO) — On Friday night, dozens of families are expected to discuss how they believe a church in the north metro has too much control.

On its website, The Crossing in Elk River states it is “A church for people who don’t do church.”

But, many families said becoming a member comes at too high a cost.

Eric Dykstra and his wife Kelly lead The Crossing in Elk River along with three satellite locations.

The church is known for its unconventional approach to weekly worship. What started as 40 members six years ago has now grown to more than 2,000.

Katie Kennedy blames the church for taking her son away. She said she started going to the church with her 18-year-old son to support him playing music during the services.

“Down in the pit of my stomach I knew something was terribly wrong in this place. He gave up his life, his parents, his siblings, his music to follow Eric Dykstra,” Kennedy said.

In just a few months, Kennedy’s 18-year-old son quit college, moved out and got married to another church member. Kennedy said it all came at the urging of the lead pastors.

“I didn’t get concerned until I started seeing these changes in my son that weren’t my son,” Kennedy said.

Tracey and Jeremy Rogahn parted ways with The Crossing shortly after they were married in the church. They said they were told they were sinning against God if they didn’t donate a certain amount of money and that volunteers who didn’t agree with Dykstra’s teachings were asked to leave. They also said the Dykstra’s told church members not to talk to them again after leaving the church.

“My thought was this is not in the Bible,” Jeremy Rogahn said. “My thought was this was becoming a cult,” he said.

While no one from The Crossing would talk to WCCO-TV on camera on Wednesday, Kelly Dykstra did respond to a list of e-mailed questions to say they are not a cult, they follow Jesus and “That anytime an organization does something differently it becomes suspect.”

She also wrote, “No one is ever asked to leave The Crossing Church for disagreeing with Pastor Eric’s teaching.”

Katie Kennedy doesn’t buy it. She started a blog and said she has heard from dozens of other families who want The Crossing closed.

Kelly Dykstra said the Kennedy’s allegations about her son are a family issue and they are praying it will be resolved.  Kelly said Eric teaches Conservative Baptist Theology at The Crossing and in another statement said, “The Crossing is made up of normal, jacked-up people trying to serve Jesus and follow the Bible the best way we know how.”

People concerned with The Crossing’s teachings will meet at Elk River High School at 6:30 p.m. Friday. People attending are asked to use Door H.

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  • Pavel

    Another case of radical religious movements. They are the same and all are dangerous.

    • annoyed

      This is so not true! I have done the offering at the church for many years and they DO NOT have guards who take the offering off the facility! The offering is collected and brought to the offices. People need to stop making up stories!!!!

    • Chris Rosebrough

      please contact me at this email address talkback@fightingforthefaith.com

      or leave me a message on my facebook which is facebook.com/piratechristian

      I am the one speaking at the event on Friday night at Elk River High School and I will be discussing whether or not the Crossing is a cult.

      • Annonymous

        I can save you a trip. It’s not.

        • Iconoclast

          All religions are cults….

          • Katie

            Religions are not cults! Religions don’t matter. Its your relationship with God. And if you don’t think god is real then fine. But if your wrong and there is a god. then you burn in hell forever but if im wrong and there is not a god then im just wrong. Nothing will happen. So whatever you want to beleive is fine with me. But JEsus loves you.

      • Anonymous

        Chris, I hardly believe you should be one to talk based upon your own recent family failures and the lies with which you useto paint an all too rosy of a picture for the outside world. Please, recuse yourself from being a so called “sage of wisdom/truth seeker” until you get your own household in order.

    • Paula Coyle

      and please do write to Chris. He can get your story publicized. The truth needs to be told.

    • Paula Coyle

      people ought to be leery of him because of his false teaching. False teaching gives rise to bad behavior quite naturally. Sadly if this mother had taught her kids how to recognize false teaching the boy would never have gone there more than once.

      I’m not blaming her, but the evangelical church these days is far too easily swayed by false teaching, especially ‘seeker sensitive’ false teaching. And especially if for some reason it doesn’t result in really obvious abuse/control freakiness like is the case here.

      • Stephanie Wessel

        Eric and all the other pasters teach right from the Bible, so are you saying the Bible is false? The information is presented, how you take and use it is up to you. Let’s take some personal accountability for our decisions. There is no abuse or control happening at this church. I have never felt welcome in any church. Why is there no issue with the Mormons? I was raised Mormon and that is a far bigger issue here than the crossing.

        • The truth will be heard

          So you are saying ALL these people who have been kicked out are lying?? are you in leadership there?? Have you been to the COL meetings?? What examples do you have of Eric teaching from the Bible……He tell us to turn to a page in the Bible, but then never reads from it. He goes into his self help mode. The Crossing is NOT a Mormon Chruch, the focus is on Eric’s VISION from God that he cast upon his Church. Come to the event. Everything that will be presented is right out of Eric’s mouth in his sermons. It will get compared to what the Bible actuallly says, so bring your Bible with. If you Disagree, you are welcome to “rebuke” it in the Q & A part of the night. I pray you come.

          • Dale Gribble

            You reject the word of the Lord. Your soul is eternally damned to Hell, heretic.

    • we need divine intervention

      There are many of you defending the Crossing. I watched first hand as my child slowly become angry, distant, mean spirited and tired. She would defend the Crossing tooth and nail and I just kept praying “God open her eyes!!” Finally one day she came home and said “Mom, there is something wrong” and started telling me everything. After much prayer she left on her own. Never one word from Eric. The horror stories that I heard simply saddened me. I went myself many times to the Crossing and felt there was something wrong but just couldn’t put my finger on it. Then I started praying for the Holy Spirit to reveal to me what I couldn’t see. You see I believe there is a delusion over this church. The Bible says God will give His people over to a spirit of delusion if this is what they want instead of Him. I clearly see that. I have many friends that have friends themselves going to the Crossing and say they never see them anymore because the Crossing takes up their life. The Church is not for the lost, it is for the believer to grow in their faith and then go out and reach the lost. Eric D. say’s it is for the lost, find that in the bible. I could tell about as many stories as Jeremy and Tracy and agree with everything they say. Eric and Kelly D. I pray this Friday will humble you and your followers and you will turn from your sin. In the last days many will rise up teaching false doctrine and malign the Word of God.

      • ComeSeeForYourself

        show me where it’s false doctrine, as far as what the church is to do according to scripture, Jesus only tells us to be fishers of men. (do the lost qualify? you decide)

        The publiity is great! people are already lining up to come see for themselves what the complaints are by attending. God can turn malicious intent into good!!

        nuff said

    • Anonomyous2

      Check it out the Crossing yourself before making nasty comments. I have an awesome church home for the past 13 years, but I also attend the Crossing because I am drawn to the phenomonal talks by Pastor Eric, and Kelly is a pretty awesome speaker, as well. This is the most Bible-based chruch I have ever been to, and no, there is no pressure to do anything unless you WANT to, whether it be giving or serving. I feel sorry for the mom who THINKS she has lost her son – when you read her blog, it sounds like she basically lost her BABYSITTER. Her son Curtis is a man, capable of making his own choices, NOT a helpless little boy who was TAKEN by Eric & Kelly Dykstra. Curtis has not given up his music; he is up there every Sunday, using his musical talents to glorify God. Parents should be so lucky to “LOSE’ a child in this way- I would be giving thanks and singing praises to have a son like Curtis. Yes, it would be hard to have him leave home and get married so young, but its time for you to move on from your bitterness, anger and blame and pray for him and his wife.

      • The Trust will be heard

        Anonomyous2……Give an example of Eric Teaching from the Bible. To lose a son like curtis to a cult and have him no longer talk to even his brothers and sisters. You are welcome to come and listen tonight, EVERYTHING will be exactly from the mouths of Eric and Kelly Dykstra on what they have said in sermons and wrote themselves. You can then “rebuke” what you have heard in the Q & A part if you still agree with Eric’s teachings. Her blog does not sound anything like she LOST a babysitter.

        • Dale Gribble

          Blasphemer. The wages of sin is death.

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  • C. Murphy

    Unfortunately if its not a common practice people get all in an uproar about things. The Crossing is just finding a more conventional way to get people to church and believe in what is the most important thing, which is GOD. And therefore all these close minded people out there are trying to stop the one thing that can get some people that have no faith or lost there faith back into the church. Now I find that to be the Outrage!! Not the methods they use to do so.

    • Weird Church

      I disagree, If they are not talking to outsiders who had once been in the church but are dismissed, and required to pay a certain amount in an offering or they are “sinning” then you are not preaching the word of God. if people are quitting/ changing good things in their lives to be dedicated to the church, that is a very Bad sign. Most people who get involved in church maintain their lives outside it.. they work, go to school, are close to their friends and family. Church ultimately is their to remind you other Christians are out there and to worship with one another. It sounds like a bad church that needs to be closed.

      • Chad E

        You have NO idea how many people this Church has saved over the years! This Church has saved more drug addicts and alchoholics and given their lives back than any other organization I know. The decisions people make in their lives are no fault of the Church. This womans son made his own decisions. She needs to look in the mirror. This Church does great things, especially for the community in which these people live

        • Leaha Roth

          Saved to what? That “church” is clearly in apostasy and is doing EXACTLY what II Timothy 4:3 is talking about,……it tickles peoples ears, it is clearly an EMERGENT Church, if youre not sure what that is do and internet search and I am SURE will find the Crossing there, heres the formula for that “church” and the rest of the Emergent churchs……. a little bit of Jesus, a little bit of the world= mix well, an all- inclusive fuzzy wuzzy Jesus.,Ooooops, this is not biblical . Your picking on one woman for her comments well maybe you should check the website fightingforthefaith.com he does a whole expose on the false teacher Eric Dykstras and the dangers of his teachings, also there is another guy who used to belong to Crossing who gives a really eerie creepy testimony about the things that take place there.

        • RZ

          I think AA may have saved just a few more

        • JesusFreak

          This “Church” didnt save anyone! Jesus Christ saved them. I know “Pastor” Eric teaches the Crossing is the only hope in all the world, but its Jesus who saves, not Eric Dykstra or the Crossing!! Purely by your comments shows you are brainwashed

          • chad

            Oh come on JesusFreak you clearly know what I was implying by my comment dont argue for arguments sake! Clearly God saved these people but he did so through that Church! and Eric does NOT teach that the Crossing is the only hope in all they world. Pastors come from churches all across the country, including local churches and preach at this very church! Lets not judge what we know nothing about.

      • God Loves You

        “Church ultimately is their to remind you other Christians are out there and to worship with one another.”

        …NOT what “the” church is about. Church is a group of people who are the BODY OF CHRIST. The church is a GROUP OF PEOPLE who love Jesus, who want to help the LOST, the BROKEN, the people who have no idea who Jesus is.

        What you said is a lie. Church is there to rescue people who are hurting. Remember the parable of the lost son. Remember that Jesus said, JESUS, said: “I’ve come to call sinners to change the way they think and act, not to call people who think they have God’s approval.” LUKE 5:32; MARK 2:17; MATTHEW 9:13.

        Three different places in the Bible Jesus states that lost people is what he has come to earth for. Jesus said it. Jesus.

        The parable of the lost sheep: Luke 15:4; Matthew 18:12. Another thing that Jesus, and God’s heart, are after.

        That is what this church teaches.

        Regarding money: The Crossing does not ask members to give a certain amount of money and tell us we are sinning if we do not give. In fact, they encourage people hurting for cash to reach in the offering bucket and take loose bills if they need help for groceries or gas. The Crossing is a generous church. Unlike other churches where nothing changes, you can see where the donations are going for this church: advertising, new campuses (which do require paid staff), coffee every service, and other things. MATTHEW 6:24; again, just another thing Jesus himself taught. Check it out for yourself before believing the lies this story is covering.

        • may the truth be heard

          You must not have listened to his “code of the samarai” service. People are required to give, or they can find someone else to go…..coffee and treats that you enjoy come out of the volunteers pocket that serves that weekend. You may want to go to a COL meeting before you comment on something you know nothing about. And you must not have heard his COL tithe service where he states only 10% of the people are tithing and they are robbing god. I am assuming you are not in leadership there, because nobody in leadership makes comments like this, because they know what is true behind closed doors.

          • ComeSeeForYourself

            I was there, and you are totally twisting parts of what was said. But that seems to be your theme here.

            • derek

              wow, u guys shud be ashamed to attack the crossing, ive been there for almost a year now and the crossing has helped me fight thro all my struggles and everyone from the crossing puts their all into every service to reach ppl about god and show them how awesome he is, and i was at the code of the samurai series and Eric used the term,”u r robbing from God if u dont tithe” metaphorically bcuz God is giving u everything in this world, and it even says in the bible that u shud give god the first 10% back, so if ur saying that Eric is leading a cult bcuz of this quote, then ur basically saying that the bible, which everyone shud read and live by, is leading a cult, which wud be everyone following christ? so ur not only attacking eric, ur attacking the church, the members of crossing…but ur also attacking Jesus Christ, and if you want to tick God off, go ahead…all im going to say is good luck bcuz only God will judge u, and i can already tell u which side ull be on

              • jcb

                Wow, you need to go back to basic english class and write a reply that has real Webster Dictionary words in it. Really??? write like you mean it not like you are texting while driving.

                • ComeSeeForYourself

                  good one jcb, your elitism is showing.

                • Trinity Jensen

                  I did not know that Christians were required to use perfect grammer. Are we judging people according to their education and writing skills? If so, you might want to capitalize the “w” in write. If this is how you treat people, then I am sure you are not gaining many followers in your campaign against this church. Maybe you could attempt to give us some scriptures and facts instead of insults? I have a few scriptures for you, 1 Corinthians 1:27 and Matthew 7:5.

        • Frustrated

          Yes, a “church is a group of people who love Jesus, who want to help the lost, the broken” etc. That does not mean families should be torn apart in the process.

          All of the loving Christian communities I’ve belonged to have never asked their congregations to make abrupt, ill-advised life changes and encourage them to isolate from the outside world.

          No matter which verses or parables you use, it will not change the glaring fact that this is not a healthy community.

      • Taylor

        They do not say to put a certain amount in the offering or you are sinning. They say that Jesus requests the tithe, which he does. IF you read the bible it says repeatedly that Jesus requests the first 10% of your earnings. Since this is IN THE BIBLE, the Crossing teaches it, just as any church should. Get your story straight.

      • Mel

        I attend the Crossing Church, and I still have a great job, and spend time with my family. The Crossing teaches all their messages from the bible. In fact, at every service Eric says that we are to serve and worship God, and that we are to read and study the bible. He has never said to serve him. Do you know that God is the only judge, and we are all going to stand before him in the end to account for our lives? What are you going to say to God when he asks you why you persecuted a church that was trying to help save people far from God? This church has helped to save thousands of people who were turned away from other churches in the past. The bible also says over and over that you are to tithe your money, for it is really God’s money that he has provided to you. Have you read the bible? If you are too greedy with the money you were given that you decide you would rather leave the church than follow what God has said, you will also have to answer for this in the end. I hope everyone will decide to attend the Crossing Church form themselves, you will see that the Crossing is teaching the true message of God, and it will change your life positively for eternity.

      • Christian Sundberg

        Church ultimately is their to remind you other Christians are out there and to worship with one another? The Crossing Church is there to help lost people find jesus not to sing songs? Im 14 and I choose to go there everyweek and volunteer, i choose to read my bible, and i chose to get baptised, i certainly have never been controlled there. and my life certainly doesnt revolve around the crossing church? It revovles around Jesus. Please dont judge my church, i think that might be gods job

    • youre an idiot

      C MURPHY are you a moron?? have you seen the flyers they are sending out in the mail? if you havent you can have mine cause i’m lucky enough to get one in the mail? HOT STUFF?? with a sexy outline of a man and woman? its a flyer pretty much promoting sex before marriage which is considered a sin, and when someone is preaching gods word i’m pretty sure that you also shouldnt be promoting sex. you’re an idiot just like the rest of them. I see you all every sunday in your yellow vest jumping around acting like idiots. just go inside and go to church, none of us driving by are dumb enough to pull in and fall for your bullshit.

      • Anonymous

        I thank God every day for the Crossing Church and the pastors we have been blessed with. They are doing an awesome job! I pray for all of you lost sheep, hopefully you will find your way back before its to late…

        • Amen

          Amen!! I will be praying for them also, and hope that God’s glorious light can shine down on you and show you wut this radical Church is doing to change people state-wide.

      • Laura Sargent

        They do not promote any unbiblical behaviors!!!!! If you’d only go to the Crossing–it takes a second visit because it is so different–you will see that it is a great church. They are presenting God’s truths in ways “lost” people can understand and people not-so-lost (like me) can better understand. What Pastor Eric presents is directly from the Bible (the BIBLE–not one specific to the Crossing).

        I became a Christian 11 years ago through another church. I never knew how amazing God was, and that he felt the same about me! I just recently began going to the Crossing to be supportive of another person, but I am thankful I found this church! Pastor Eric is definitely “out there”–that’s why I said it takes two visits before you see what a great church this is. His style is different–but it is of God and it is obvious that he loves Jesus. This is a radically different church–that is why they will undoubtably face persecution. It’s happened before… In the BIBLE….. It happened to followers of Jesus then–and now.

        Check out the Crossing–you will be amazed if you open your eyes and ears to him and not to those who judge him. PS: I do not work there–I go there.

      • J Lemon

        Maybe if you attended you would realize that they only condone sex if you ARE married! And they also consider it a sin to have sex before marriage. Do not speak if you do not know what you are talking about!

      • Latisha Paschall

        The crossing does not believe in sex before marriage or even living together before marriage. The flier is used to draw people to church and that is what kind of people are in the world today they are drawn to those images.

  • C. John

    There are always two sides of a story, this unfortunately is a personal conflict between a mother and son. It saddens me that a highly respected new station like WCCO would publicise a false fabracation without getting his side of the story.

    This is her son’s own blog about what happened between his mother and himself. http://www.mystory522.blogspot.com/

    I can only ask that you keep an open mind about the Crossing-Church. Services are on Saturday and Sunday, come check them out for yourself, and make your impression.

    • Annoyed

      I have attended the Crossing since the beginning and it is not a cult in any shape or form. They are all about Jesus! This all started because of a mother’s sadness over her son growing up! All churches can be labeled a “cult”. Each church has their own ways of doing things. Obviously the crossing is doing something right to get people in their doors and follow Jesus. People need to stop being “bitter” about why they left the church and move on with their lives!!!

      • Anon

        Why would a church need to stand outside and wave at people to get them to go in the doors to be christian like? Every time I drive by I just laugh because it is rediculous that people have to stand outside on the street, dance, and try to get people to worship. If they wanted to worship there they would. And the flyers do send the wrong message about sex and marraige in my opinion. This place should be closed!

        • Chad E

          If you knew anything about the Church you would know that the flyers going around are presenting the exact OPPOSITE of what you are saying. Its NOT promoting sex or premarital sex its promoting how to increase the positive elements of your MARRIAGE through the Bible. This Church you people are bashing are saving more lives and doing more for the community its in than any other organization so before you bash is you might want to get to know it first!!

      • Truthspeaks

        When I “grew up” I didn’t turn away from my whole family.

    • anon

      I feel bad for Curtis, just read the blog… he seems like a nice guy, but is clearly delusional.

    • The real truth is coming out

      I’ve read Curtis’ blog. Many times. It fully backs up every word his mother says. He doesn’t validate the Crossing but rather shows how he was, and is, manipulated. At 18 he might have found it to be a gift from God to be able to quit school but those of us who have been adults more than 12 months know that getting a degree, even in a field that doesn’t produce a lot of work, is worth something. Every action they took with him was self serving and not in his interest but their own.

      • Observer

        Not sure Bill Gates would agree about the degree – He did not finish college sure worked out for him. This kids mother says he quit his music – I believe he is playing more now than ever before – lets at least deal with a few facts. His mother CHOSE NOT to attend his wedding! This is tragic that she will regret this when she gets over her emotions. Her kid is available she is the one not talking to him

        • Truthspeaks

          Ummm..NOT TRUE! His wedding location was moved to a “secret location” and due to inclement weather possibilities was moved back to the church…with doors locked and security guards posted at door to keep the family from being able to show up and cause trouble.

        • holy moses

          Putting Bill Gates as an example of what happens without a college degree is disingenous. Glad I never got the calling. Too much going on in life to get involved in this BS.

  • Abby

    If people do not see the connection to untaxed Churches possible being a scan or a business model, they are blind. Amway modeled their business on this ponzi scheme..
    The Mormon church visits countries with natural disasters and recruits members. After the potato famine in Ireland they brought hundred of families to the U.S. and they had to stay within the church for x number of years, and by that tine, few if any left. Encouraging members to have many children is a potential bonanza of tithing 10% potenrially until death. Selling salvation can be profitable.
    If your pastor has a plane and a benz, you are a sucker.

  • Sue J

    So we can leave comments for this Church story, but no the Muslim one? Whats the matter WCCO? Talk about censorship!!

  • SUe J

    Hey Chris, Can you find out why we can leave comments here but not on the Muslim story?

    • lib

      Censorship is right Sue, I just posted below this and refered to Muslim Mosques being used to plot terrorism and it was immediately deleted. Wcco most definately practices censorship. They want a puff piece on Muslims without any critique. Such as Muslims from MN going to Somalia to plot terroristic acts against this country, or how they cheered in the streets after 911.

      • G Dog


        This church sounds like the perfect place for you. Your myopia would fit right in.

  • Mark Bjorlo

    My friend, Pastor Eric Dykstra has gotten a lot of attention this year. Some of it has been positive and some of it has been very negative. Through it all the church he pastors, (The Crossing in Elk River) continues to be a place where “people who don’t do church” are finding hope and life and life in Jesus Christ.

    The Crossing Church isn’t a perfect place because it is led by imperfect leaders and filled with imperfect people. That has always been God’s plan though…to redeem the world through the only perfect one (Jesus) in partnership with His broken people.

    • It's just business

      Thank you, please leave your donation with security at the front door and take a seat.

    • I want the truth to be revealed

      Mark it looks like you are beginning to drink the cool-aid, I have had my doubts about your support, now I know for sure how you stand. The Crossing is a very dangerous Church. This Church is ruining the lives of many, many people. It’s a scary place right now and it needs to be exposed. Eric is preaching a false gospel.
      It’s unfortunate that leadership has not taken a stand, what are you waiting for?

    • God Does Not Exist

      To paraphrase PT Barnum; “There’s one born every minute.”

    • TRUTH

      Church is about family. Anything that tells you to go against that is a cult. Plain and simple.

      • Peter

        “I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.” Mat 10:35

        Another of his disciples said, “Lord, first let me return home and bury my father.” But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.” Mat 8:21,22

        God tells Abraham to sacrifice Isaac in Gen 22. God sacrificed His own Son. Church is not about family – it’s about JESUS.

    • Paula Coyle

      .”The Crossing Church isn’t a perfect place because it is led by imperfect leaders”

      Typical dodge. Every abuser is imperfect. But Scripture says that sort of controlling worldly leadership “should not be so among you.”

      “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. 26It shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant,c 27and whoever would be first among you must be your slave,d 28even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

  • Chaplain Donald Forncrook

    Folks every one has the right to belive in what every they want however there is a limet to thisright here are a few #1 when a church is started just to get money and or use people control then there is something very wrong ya all remember JIm Jones well if not go to the news paper office and ask to read about him ; you see when somebody claims to be following JESUS look to see how they are living claims are one thing you know anyone can claim something but if they are not living the teachings of JESUS then there is no light in them; its not what you beleive but how you live what you beleive GOD never forces anyone so we should never force anyone ( FORCE IS NOT LOVE) nor is it GOD’S way.
    I suggest all of you who read this go to the meeting ask some hard question like how much does the church take in every month and then how is it used there are laws in this country the church has a legel obligation to open its books if they refuse then the law can make them open it up.
    So if the leaders of the church of the church have nothing to hide then open up your books don’t tell people they can’t see where the money gose or whats its used for.
    To the leaders of that church do you know the state and Federal gove can send in auditors to check your books well if not wake up because they can so be carefull your treading a fine line here you can’t ask to be excempt form paying taxes if your using the money for other things like giving your selves high wages and such do you have a church board if not you should all elected by the members all meetings should be recorded and kept on file in the church office.
    Think for a moment In the USA we have a law that protects envolvment of church and state keeping them apart but also there is a criteria for this you are treading on very dangerous grounds if any member of the church be it a pastor or head elder miss uses any funds then you could ,lose your tax excempt status as a church so folks if your church refuse to open its church books for you to read then get out and away from that church.
    IF eevrything I have read about your church what people are saying is true then the law hase been broken nobody wants to pick on your church just be open and honest about everything if you don’t want to be open and let members read see what is being done with the offerings then something is so very wrong leave the church and find a church that keeps the comandments of GOD and the Faith of JESUS.
    So think don’t follow a human follow the LORD if the leader is not following JESUS then deaprt because because he os she is a faults teacher!

    Chaplain D. Forncrook

    • BN

      Jesus who?

    • @ Chaplain

      Go back to school please, you’re ramblings were a bit incoherent. Horrible grammar and spelling takes away from any point you’re trying to make.

  • John B

    All churches are cults, whats the difference with this one? People seem to be fulfilled with just about any BS that is given to them. What people don’t know they make up,simple.

    • Dave's Not Here

      @ John B

      Totally spot on comment. Finally someone gets it…

  • lisa c

    I can’t even read/watch these negative things about The Crossing anymore. It just saddens me so much. This church has changed not only my life, but countless others, by showing us the path to redemption. I think there are just some people that twist things and misunderstand things, to make them mean something they don’t, whether it be intentional or not, it happens all the time. I have yet to see anything other than the truth of scripture being taught here and so I will stand with The Crossing and Pastor Eric & Kelly until pigs fly.

    • markH

      lisa-If you’re happy with the church, then you should remain just where you are and not let anyone tell you otherwise. However, it may be in your best interest to actually investigate the claims that any church makes (the idea that we need “redemption”, torture and human sacrifice to save innocents, eternal damnation of those who don’t /can’t believe, etc). Most churches don’t want these questions raised. I attended many, many churches and posed these questions to churchgoers and clergy and was met with coldness or verbal attacks. To me, that’s a pretty clear sign that there isn’t much (read:any) evidence behind these core ideas and teachings. The best bet is to live your life to be happy and not wrap your happiness in supernatural ideas-because they are just unnecessary to human happiness. Peace.

      • lisa c

        Torture? Human sacrifice? Wow. Not sure where that came from. But back to reality……I am not seeking happiness in this life. This is not my home. My home is in Heaven with my Father. Until He returns, or calles me home, I seek to glorify God. The Crossing and Pastor Eric are wonderful guides in this journey. Being a Jesus follower is not easy. And it is not for the weak. It has been sometimes amazing yet sometimes painful (see all comments). However, “God blesses those who are persecuted because they live for God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.: ~ Matthew 5:10 I love blessings…….looks to me like I’m stacking them up! Whoo hoo!

    • Dave's Not Here

      There is no path to any redemption, and no redemption is needed.

      Just live your life, you brainless sheep. Nobody needs to “show” you anything.

      When you die, you die. Just like the Hale-Bopp Comet idiots who all committed suicide. Dead is dead. No virgins, no seeing your old dog Spot again.

      • Haley C

        1 Corinthians 1:30
        New International Version (NIV)

        30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.

        My heart weeps for you, unsaved one. When you are ready the Lord will forgive you and hold you close.

      • Stacy

        Cool there’s 2 Daves that believe enough to call us sheep.

      • Mel

        Have you heard of Pascal’s Wager? I learned this from pastor Eric too. To sum it up for you, it says:

        If I believe in God, but there turns out to be no God, I am out nothing, but if I believe in God, and there is a God, my eternity is Heaven.

        On the other hand, if you don’t believe in God, and there isn’t a God, you are out nothing. But if you don’t believe in God, and there is a God, you are going to Hell.

        I would rather believe in God and go to heaven. I hope you open your eyes and see God’s truth before it is too late!

        • Todd W. Olson

          Pascal’s wager is flawed. If you were to spend your life worshipping a god who doesn’t exist, spending resources and time, you’ve wasted a degree of opportunity. So, in that instance, one isn’t really “out nothing” as you put it.

          • Mel

            I know that God is real, I was just making a point to try to save a non-believer. That’s why we are on this earth, to try to save those lost so that they can live for eternity in heaven too. Thanks.

            • Todd W. Olson

              I love Jesus, too, Mel, but I don’t think he asks us to turn off our brains. Pascal was a brilliant guy, but the wager isn’t very well thought out. trying to reason someone into faith is a fool’s errand, in any event

  • Betty

    If members of The Crossing are stupid enough to line the pockets of these brainwashers, then so be it. Instead of closing the church, provide the members with a lesson on common sense.

  • Me

    Churches like this are the reason I’m agnostic.

    Until they stop demanding excessive amounts of money from parishioners and focus on charity instead of being greedy, I will not be going to any of them.

    • sam

      how do you expect a church to practice charity or help the less fortunate/needy if it’s members do not give an offering? where do you think the money comes from to run the food shelves/heart ministries, etc. that Churches operate? Offerings and tithing are in the Bible, so it isn’t greed of the Church that is behind this principle.

    • Paula Coyle

      You’re going to make them all be perfect before you attend a church? Well that’s convenient. Then you’ll ruin it.

      No real church demands money. You just have to find them. They’re usually small and don’t promote themselves and their ‘good works’ because good works are not the primary message of Scripture. Forgiveness is. And then after that people do good works out of gratitude and joy for having been forgiven. People who believe the truth will find other believers to fellowship with. You’re making excuses to justify yourself just like those you judge as selfish are doing.

      • Christian S.

        The crossing doesnt demand money at all, tithing is for jesus followers and members of the church, and if it was a “greedy” church they wouldnt allow you to take money for the offering bucket if your hurting for gas or groceries.

    • Leah

      I believe in God/Jesus. But I totally agree with u.. Alot of Christians do a horrible job of repesenting God. They are always fighting and judging one another when it should be all about LOVE….It’s just sad :( I’m sorry for the bad experiences u have had. I hope u find ur way in this messed up world! If u ever get a chance u should see the movie Lord Save Us From Your Fallowers, love the movie it’s awesome!

  • food for thought

    I have attended the Crossing on many many occasions and I can say this, never has an armed guard forced me to give money. Never have they said, if you don’t give x amount of dollars get out. Never did i hear Eric preach not to talk to members who leave.

    This sounds like there is a family issue between Katie and her son that shouldn’t be on a news station.

    For the other family in this story. Those claims that were made are simply false.

    Side note* I notice that people who are claiming to be true Christians as well as Agnostics and Athiests are all arguing together on this. Christians and athiests arguing together?

    • Dave's Not Here

      What happens to people who aren’t christians? When they die, do they float to a nightmarish dream world? LOL

      • Praying for you.

        Yes, it’s called Hell…. only it’s not a dream.

    • Love the Lord

      We have attended off and on the Crossing from the beginning and it has changed so much, not for good. Our child still attends and we are praying for the truth to be heard. Our child has said that she no longer talks to friends as they are not apart of the inner circle and not relevant to the Crossing. If you are apart of the main group inner circle and not there on a daily basis you might not see it. You may not know if someone is carrying a gun as I am sure they will not have it visible. I personally would like to see Eric and Kelly repent and change as they could with God’s help have a great church for Jesus. Things are just being done wrong. There are good churches out there so if you have been hurt, abused or kicked out. Keep looking for the good church.

  • holywood

    so, if you dont like the church, dont go. if your adult son made a decision that you as a parent disagree with, get used to it.
    why are all you people such pansies?
    so what if they say you should give x amount of money or be labled a sinner. dont pay, dont go, or pay and go. or gosh, dont pay and still go!
    judgemental conformist nazies.
    sounds like a witch hunt to me.

  • Paula Coyle

    Can you cite a chapter and verse that tells us how much as Christians we must give to the church?

    This is a sick, fake church. Dykstra talks about himself, not Jesus. Typical evangelical.

    • Chad E.

      Paula, there are multiple verses in the Bible that state that Jesus asks to bring the Tithe of 10% of what you earn as a gift to him..maybe you should read the Bible before you bash it! I have been going to the Crossing for over a year and LOVE the way they teach the truth of the Bible. I would be the FIRST person to say something was wrong with it if there was. I feel sorry for people like you Paula..God Bless!!

      • I want the truth to be revealed

        Chad E.
        Show me the verses …

        • Peter

          In Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42, Jesus acknowledged to the Pharisees that they tithed and should do so.

          Jesus speaks against idolatry and says that one cannot serve both God and money. Proverbs says the love of money is the root of all evil. The greatest commandment is to love God with ALL of your heart, soul, mind and strength.

          God wants our hearts. Tithing takes money off the throne of my life and clears the way for the King of Kings.

        • chad

          Paula, take out your Bible and find them yourself. They are pretty clear. If you are having a hard time locating them you can look in the index at the back of the Book under the word TITHE!

      • Read The Bible

        Chad, Jesus never once says to bring a tithe in the Bible. Jesus does say to give to the poor and to Widows. He never says anything about giving to a Church.

        • chad

          Wow really? Maybe you should practice what your title says and read the Bible. your comment is almos laughable at how naive it is. Look in the back of your Bible at its index and look up the word TITHE and read the passages.

    • Jeremy Cox

      Mal. 3-16 Says to bring the full tithe into the storehouse. That means that we are to give at least 10% of our income to God.

  • Bill

    Hey Jezzus people, why don’t you try reality sometime it’s very refreshing.

  • Eddie van Halen

    I go to listen to the music! The church band is pretty tight! Rock on Garth!!

  • Leaving your Son

    Katie i am so sorry that you have chosen to hate your son and his wife so badly to do this so publicly. I will speak life in to them and tell to always love you even tho they can choose hate like you. hope you can enjoy your life away from your son. YOU have chased him away. He has not left you, YOU have left him.

    • jim jones loves you

      @Leaving your Son. You must be a kool aide drinker from the church. More proof religion is just another addiction like drugs and booze.

      • Leaving your Son

        Isn’t wonderful that you have created such hate towards your son way to go. I am sure your son loves you even more for doing this. But I will tell him and his wife to always love you even tho you hate him so much.
        why are you so unkind.

        • I want the truth to be revealed

          Leaving your son
          Katie loves her son so much she is willing to go as far as she need to go to see that he is set free.This 18 year old young man quit school, left home, left his family, married a 26 year old girl, and sold his car to give the money to the Church.
          I have personally experienced what Eric Dykstra does to families, he drives a wedge between parent and child, he promotes disrespect, attempts to destroy the child/parent or child/family relationship as a parent I have personally experienced this mode of behavior. He instructs members to cut of communication with people who have left the Church. Eric has done this with hos own child. at one time Eric was an exceptional Pastor, leader, and mentor. I learned a lot from him … but he ha gone off the deep end

        • we need divine intervention

          You will never know until you walk a mile in her shoes. Maybe she is not doing everything right but I know first hand what she is going through, my child just happened to leave before the delusion took over her! Everything and I mean everything said here against the church is TRUTH! Stop harassing her and if you soooo strongly believe God is in control, we will see what the future holds for this church. God be merciful and just!

  • Todd W. Olson

    The last time I checked, in this country we have the right to worship as we please. If you don’t care for the church’s message, worship elsewhere. The individual in question is 18 years of age and an adult. Enough said.

    • Dave's Not Here

      18 might be the age of adulthood, but 18 is still a young kid. They’re only running on half a brain for almost an entire additional decade after they can legally vote and die for the country.

      • Todd W. Olson

        So you’re suggesting that he forfeit his 1st Amendment right to freedom of worship? I don’t get it. I don’t want the government telling me how to pray. I might not like this church, but if I let the government tell them how to pray, then the government would get to tell me how to pray, too.

    • ComeSeeForYourself


  • idi

    “People attending are asked to use Door H (for Hell).”

    • This is a dumb story


  • mnsotamama

    Personally I’m into using my own God-given brain and using my own interpretations of the Bible to live the life that I believe was intended for us. I think too many people of all religions (all man-made) are brain-washed. Find a young or vulnerable person at a time of weakness and the skys the limit on your influence over them.

  • ComeSeeForYourself

    This type of mis-information about the church has already been foretold, and happens everyday:

    All these are the beginning of birth pains.

    “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 1Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

    Matthew 24:8-14

    New International Version (NIV)


  • Think about it

    There will be a meeting on Friday to discuss whether this church is a cult:


    • markH

      The only difference between a cult and an “accepted” religion is how widely subscribed one is vs another. Christianity was considered a cult when it began, just as Mormonism was considered a cult (and still is by many) until just a short time ago. The fact is that whatever you call it (cult, religion, spiritual philosophy) does not mean for a second that any of it is actually true. Religion can easily function like a placebo; it could all be false but just make you feel good and be hopeful about some future existence where everything comes out right.

    • Think about it

      An an eye-opening first-hand account of the scary things going on in this church here:


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