i agree he almost killed another person for their money or etc. what comes around goes around.

Agreed, I feel badly for the family. But this is not the first story I have read about a friend or relative saying, “They didn’t deserve to die this way.” Sorry, but who taught them that it was ok to steal? Who taught them it was a cool thing to pistol whip a senior citizen? He died the way he lived……..violently.

I wish this would happen more often. Criminals get away with it too often and should be shot and killed more regularly, maybe they would think twice about making someone else the victim. How about getting a job criminals? I’d shoot you too if I interrupted something like this. Would relish the opportunity!

I totally agree – I feel bad her son is dead, but maybe he’d still be alive if she had raised him right to not rob and pistol whip AN OLD LADY (althought I tend to think that he would have probably just tried to rob someone else). Give me a break lady “my son is a victim” – no wonder he’s a thief and a hoodlum.

Why do you feel bad about a family of career criminals? If she didn’t want her son to die a violent death. She should have raised him with values and morals. Not robbing and beating older women.

The mom said: “I can’t give no comments on that. I prefer not to actually talk about that part of it…” That’s too bad. That’s part of the problem and a lesson lost. Pay attention, any siblings of his…
I can understand that she is grieving. Maybe later on she’ll come to grips with what has truly happened. Maybe, just maybe she had no idea what kind of a man he was. At 23 years old, he’s not a “baby” anymore. He was an armed robber; a felon running loose with a shotgun and capable of doing God-knows-what, as soon as he decided to do it. Only a mother would have the blurred vision to call the shotgun totting robber a victim after a stand-off in which he likely refused to surrender. Give her time to come to her senses, I hope. James 4:14, We are like mist, here for but a little while then gone.
You never know when God calls, so be ready.

EXACTLY ^

And that woman probably should not have raised a gun to a police officer, or maybe you think the police shouldn’t go home to their families at night? Or are you one of those people who believe police have some special power of reading people’s minds and they should have known that the woman pointing a gun at them really didn’t want to kill them.

Walter, probably not a good idea to raise up a gun when a cop tries to stop you. Murder? Gimme a break.

Although I feel sorry that she had to lose her life, if you followed that story more closely, that lady was suicidal, it was suicide by cop. She did seek therapy and even had herself admitted, but they let her out, maybe next time they will evaluate someone more closely.

Hey Wally. If you think the GV cop was a murderer i want you to try this experiment. Speed through town, drive dangerously and with no regard to public safety, then pull over and rapidly jump out of your vehicle and raise an item resembling a weapon towards your head and see what happens. I bet the cop does not shoot because he is likely not a murderer. Now, point the weapon at an innocent person or the officer and see what happens. Likely you will feel the effects of someone deploying self defense tactics.
On second thought, don’t do this. Shooting someone is stressful and the officer already has enough stress in his/her life. Just pull your bottom lip up over your head and swallow.

Cops are not psychotherapists and they don’t have ESP. It amazes me that anyone would want to continue in police work with what they have to tolerate. They never have exact, textbook situations and have to respond ASAP to try to protect the public. Then, they have to put up with being second-guessed afterwards. The woman shot by the GV cop drew his attention by her wacky behavior and then pulled over and showed that she was armed. At that point it doesn’t make any difference whether she is mentally ill, high, running after committing a crime. A show of arms draws an armed response. That’s the reality.

I feel for the mom pain as well.

But having the police deal with it, well the police can’t be every.
When you say “random person” carrying a gun, are you talking about the hero, or the zero? I’m sure the hero was no random guy. He was licensed to carry a gun unlike our zero here, who had no business to carry a gun. The law only makes us law biding citizens life more complicated, compared to criminals. Do criminal get a full background check each time they purhcased a gun from someone on the streets? Do they abid by signs posted at the enterance of each establaishment “banned gun in this establisments” or they just walk in to a bank (for example) and still robs the place? I don’t think i’ve ever seen a person who planned on robbing a bank/store, and sees the signs , walks back into their car and puts the gun back underneath their seat, then walks into the store empty handed and tries to rob it.

If the police deal with it, what actually happens is Perp gets away with crime, perp spends old lady’s money, perp sells old lady’s identity, perp robs three or four more people that night, perp actually kills one or two of those, police never make arrest because they don’t actually investigate “petty” crimes.

How it happened; Perp smacks old lady with gun. Good guy shows up and tries to ID perp for cops, perp pulls gun, Good Guy ilves in a free state, and has been granted State permission to exercise his Constitutionally enumerated, Creator given right to self defense ends perp’s miserable life.

Mother may not realize it yet, but her life has also been made easier. She no longer has to go throught life wondering who her son will kill, if she’ll have to bail him out, wondering if he’ll steal from her again, or dealing with the drama his presense on this earth causes to those around him. She should thank the Good Guy. He did her a favor.

And if we’re all lucky, this miscreant hasn’t reproduced, and there’s no spawn of his floating around to continue the obvious family tradition.

The difference between a police officer and a random person carrying a gun is about a week and a half of training and 50k+ a year salary. Oh, and the increasingly severe narcissism and god complex that comes with being a cop.

Mom’s a criminal too. A knowing participant in Darren’s crimes.

She should be mourning him from prison.

so if u see a crime you shouldnt help catch the criminal????? or if that criminal fires a bullet at you, and you happen to have gun as well, you wouldnt fire back. Thugs arent good shots…..some one that owns a gun (legally) usually practices at it. This gentleman obviously knows how to use his. Anyone who pistol whips someone, is ALWAYS a threat!!!

sadnews, your response is sad. So, continue to let the assailant run down the street with a weapon and commit MORE crime? Absolutely not, the buck stops here, if you have the means to put him down, you do so, so that he doesn’t commit further crime/death.

you apparently missed the fact that the criminal had a gun and the man fired at him in self defense. you don’t have to wait for them to put a bullet in you to fire your weapon if you feel threatened.

sadnews you have obviously read or been lectured on the MN carry laws. Permit holders do not have extra rights to enforce the law and become vigilantes. At least that is what I was taught when I took my permit to carry course. The situation where the permit holder shot in self defense would never have happened if he had not chased the criminal, which you are taught to never do.

Don’t get me wrong, I think that justice was served in this situation and absolutely do not agree that this gentleman was in anyway a “victim” but we don’t need situations like this to be used in the future by activists/lawmakers as reasons to take away our right to carry by making us all out to be trigger happy vigilante lawman.

i loved how the one girl said “He is a good person” Sorry girl good people don’t go around robbing people with guns.

even if charges are file i do not see a jury finding him guilty.

you must be a defence lawyer…….the kid did not have the right to do what he did, the police are busy and need help when we can give it. If more people carried and took action against crime it would slow a little. Put it on a level playing field. You have gun, I have gun, you act nice, I act nice, you don’t act nice, I don’t act nice, if you get shot while comitting a crime, well you do, end of story

I would like to sit on that Jury.

What Hallucinogenic drugs are you using? It’s called making a citizens arrest. This cowardly thug finally got what was coming to him. I think the law about carrying a firearm needs to be relaxed. The cops keep getting less money, fewer cops etc. And yet there are more criminals committing crimes. Way to go Politicians. Disband the Gang Task Force because they were using the proceeds from the busts to track down more criminals. Politicians didn’t get a cut of the money. I’m tired of listening to brain dead people complain about guns. The gun is an IN-ANIMATE object. Let’s take away the vehicle keys from people who drink and drive and kill. How is it ok for someone to kill someone using a vehicle? And most times only get a traffic citation for improper lane usage? People need to start using the contents of the skull for thinking. Lets make the jails and prisons less like a resort. No radio, no TV, no books, no athletic activities, no college education. Put them in a 6X6X6 cell and let them stay there. No fear of rioting if they never get out. No fear of them overpowering the guards because they only have time to spend working out. It’s time to make the criminals pay. No more excuses about being beaten or not talked nicely to.

mike you seem to forget the fact that the criminal had a gun. if he raised it threateningly the man had a right to shoot him. any citizen has a right to pursue a criminal they witness committing a crime as long as they commit no crimes themselves, and if their life comes under threat then they have the right to defend themselves.

mikey, mikey, mikey……everything’s black and white until its yours being assaulted and robbed.

Plus….how do you know if the “armed citizen” was just in persuit not even knowing the assilant was armed, then ONLY drew and fired his weapon when he reacted when Evanovich became a deadly threat?

Mike, you are a disgusting example of what is wrong with this country.

I know if’s wrong to hope you will be victimized by someone like Darren Evanovich some day. But I think I can live myself for it.

Hillbilly or not, I want to go to the range with that dude and get some pointers from him. Multiple hits in a panic situation is not luck. It’s skill. Most people would be lucky to get one hit. I wonder if he’d autograph my .357 mag. Maybe he’d do a speaking engagement at my church. He’s a hillbilly hero!

Would you be happier if we threw spears? Isn’t that a tad racist? Snowjob, you are about as enlightened as an abandoned coal mine. Go away.

Spoken like a true gang banger. Don’t want people with guns because you are afraid they will defend themselves.

My family came into Minnesota as pioneers just after Minnesota became a state. Everybody carried guns. The women included. They used them to hunt for food and for protection. The fact that everyone was armed went a long way toward keeping everyone honest. Periodically, because of the isolation, someone would come into the area, thinking that they could rob others and create fear. That’s when they would be welcomed to Minnesota with some prairie justice. Welcome to Minnesota Darren Evanovich.

We could not care less, Mr Snowman, what you call us—We just don’t want to be called unprepared.