Gambling Dollars Possible For New Vikings Stadium

ST. PAUL, Minn. (WCCO) — If only the Vikings had this kind of staying power on the field.

A Minnesota Vikings stadium bill that was on life support 24 hours ago is alive again, and lawmakers are now gunning for the end zone. Again.

Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton met privately with the Republican stadium supporters this morning, just 24 hours after he accused top GOP leaders of walking away from the Vikings.

“I’m an old hockey goalie,” said Dayton. “After a tough night you just put the pads on the next day and go to work again.”

The Republican Senate author of the stadium bill, Senator Julie Rosen of Fairmont, promised what she called a “very good” stadium bill “very soon.”

“We are going to get a bill out,” said Rosen, flanked by Gov. Dayton and Democratic lawmakers.

Rosen said the new Vikings push will include public hearings, and a special session before the New Year.

“Before Thanksgiving? That’s not gonna happen,” she said, hoping for a December “action” month. “We need more time to get the bill together if we are going to do it right.”

The funding focus now: Gambling revenues, including electronic pull tabs and slot machines at race tracks. A casino is also still a possibility for revenue.

Republicans said they’ll go where the most votes are.

“I frankly don’t think we can put a deal together unless there’s gaming revenues that’s a part of it,” said Rep. Morris Lanning, a Republican from Moorhead, the House author of the stadium bill.

One more unusual twist in a day of Vikings twists and turns: The Republican House Speaker Kurt Zellers, the most powerful politician at the legislature, was not part of the stadium meetings on Thursday.

And on WCCO Radio, he said again he is not in favor of a special session for the Vikings.

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  • Al

    All this posturing to create an aura of urgency by the politicians turns my stomach. I find it hard to believe that building a stadium is worth it for Minnesota. 10 games a year folks!! That’s it!! Maybe a playoff appearance once every 5 years or so. The only ones that profit from this are the restaurants.

    • RR

      Jeez people, it won’t be exclusively for the Vikings!!!!! Every event hosted in the Metrodome will probably migrate there once its built. Not to mention all the additional events it will bring in. Look at the big picture & realize its time to upgrade for the future. The Metrodome had a good lifel time

    • VCO

      The income tax revenue for 10 NFL games generates more in a season than an entire year acquired via the rest of working Minnesota. Quit thinking about principle. Communism was built on “principle”. The stadium construction alone will generate 8,000 jobs. The businesses surrounding the stadium will flourish (provided it stays downtown, which it should). This creates revenue and jobs. The NFL is an entertainment PRODUCT. We’re not building it for someone… we’re building it to maintain a viable entity and an identifiable part of MN culture that benefits our economy.

      • Guy

        And the buisnesses around the DOME will wither … all you are doing is MOVING those jobs from Minneapolis to A-H. NOT generating NEW jobs.

        • Lee L.

          And if the stadium isn’t built, those jobs will move from Minneapolis to L.A., At least when they’re in AH, you can take a bus to get to those jobs if you work for the Vikes

    • @ AL

      I’m sorry you forgot about out-of-state fans that rent vehicles, hotels, airplane tickets, purchase drinks, souvenirs (ALL MN TAXED), which, YOU AL, are now taking advantage of. Care to raise the unemployment a bit, when those workers are no longer needed on their shift?

      • @ AL

        Has anyone looked at the tax on a car rental!??? Yeah, lots of money goes into the state pocket!!

    • Nate

      Common Al, if it were another indoor stadium, a lot of other events would be hosted there just like the dome. If the stadium goes through, I don’t see an need for the dome anymore. So where will we have the prep bowls, home and garden shows, and numerous other events? Hmmm…this is a statewide item now, isn’t it? Understand Zygi’s stance on some help now, especially if it will be used by others? Pass the Casino in Block E so it’s not on taxpayers.

      • Guy

        SO – we already HAVE the dome. It is ALREADY PAID FOR. The ONLY one looking to build a new stadium is Ziggy. What are you suggesting doing with the dome after the new stadium is build. And what about all of those poor restaurants & hotels down next to the dome … and all of the people who work THERE?

        • Nate

          The dome is out of date, it generates nothing for revenue. If you want the vikes to put together a good team you need to increase the franchise’s value, that is the stadium. It will also draw the apeal for higher end players, and not to mention the possibility of having a Super Bowl hosted here again, huge money for the State with that. If there is a new stadium, the dome will probably be sold to a developer, or build at the Dome’s location. Again this is an investment for the State too and again to make money you need to spend money. That is the risk with businesses.

          • Jane

            Nate: : “The dome is out of date, it generates nothing for revenue.” When you say this we have to assume you are the administrator for the Dome and keep it’s books. You must be, anyone that would make a comment like that based only on what they hear in the media would be a complete idiot spewing garbage about something they know nothing about. What do you get paid a year for doing the domes books, 300, 400 thousand or more?

      • Geoff

        Good point. Many events were cancelled when the dome roof was repaired. The state should consider electronic pull tabs at the airport terminals. Extract cash from out of state visitors before they leave the state. A domed stadium is an asset to the state. Putting it in Arden Hills would balance out the recent development that has occurred in the two downtown areas and the south metro.

    • Swamp Rat

      You forget that the people will own this venue and it will be a 24/7-365 venue if managed correctly. There are some great economic possibilities for the state and metro ares if this deal is done right. Other cities can bear these points out!

      • Walter

        No they don’t. Studies show stadiums have a detrimental affect on local economies.

    • rcunningham

      Yeah because the stadium could host NO OTHER EVENTS OR CONCERTS WHICH WOULD GENERATE REVENUE.

    • ProudVikingFan

      You are obviously not a somebody that has traditions with loved ones that is related around Vikings football. Families and friends all over the state come together on Sundays to watch the Vikings and have for years. Families and friends go to Vikings games together to make memories that they will never forget. Look past the money and fincial complications that come from a stadium. How much money would you pay for your greatest family traditions?? The implications of not having a NFL team in this state will impact MUCH MUCH more than just the restaurants. I hope WE will never see how much exactly it will impact. Go Vikings.

      • Tony Benjamin

        i’ve said it before, how will it impact the kids of Minnesota, ND, SD, Nebraska, Iowa, and even alot in Wisconsin who play football and watch and idolize the Minnesota Vikings? How would they feel if the team left? they would be heartbroken! I’m sure the lawmakers have kids or are related to kids or know kids who live in their neighborhoods who love the Vikings. Maybe they should look at it like that instead of playing the political card

        • sam

          ya Idolize these convicted felons ? Go and take the twins with you ! haven’t been to either one and don’t plan on it. two jobs and a family to feed. If i want to see them they are on the television all the time. mostly whining about something.

          • Come on now!

            Let me guess, you are an uneducated person who blames all your problems on others. A new stadium will not hurt you, your two jobs or your family. If anything it will bring more money to our state, add jobs and entertainment to this state.

      • Spend Wisely

        Even if the Vikings move from Minnesota nothing is stopping you form going to see a game. You can travel to where the new stadium is and go see it live there, and save me a bunch of money in the process.

      • Good Bye

        Yes Go Away Vikings.

      • Mr. Always Right

        Look past the money???? We’re not talking chump change here, we’re talking hundreds of millions of dollars…idiot

        • Rockford

          Wow, name calling. Classy

        • Ryan

          The vikings bring in $9.1million dollars from visitors visiting our fair city EVERY GAME. That equates to $72.8million dollars off the regular season alone. This also doesn’t include Sales tax off vikings merchandise or ticket sales. Anyone with simple algebra skills can quickly figure out the state will receive a return on their invest in a few short years(and we haven’t even discussed other events that could be held at the facility) Maybe you should do some research on the subject before you get on the internet and start calling people names, tough guy.

          • Come on now!

            Having a new stadium is not going to make it harder on your family. Calm down, learn the facts.

            • Walter

              Yes, it will. Having people steal your money is not good for your finances.

          • Spend Wisely

            A majority of that money would still be spent in the Twin Cities even WITHOUT the vikings. Maybe you should do some research before you start calling people names.

            • John

              Sounds like you should practice what you preach. If the Vikings go, the city would lose out on a great dal of money, not only from the people attending the games and the additional revenue that would bring in, but the income generated by taxes alone would be extremely substantial. If you don’t like them, then but out.

              • orrin

                No study exists that shows spending money on a stadium pays back the investment. The money spent on attending gaammes wouls be spent elsewhere. Nothing new comes from a stadium Try researching the subject before you babble. To pay for the 600000 million from taxes generatedd by income and sales taxes per mn post (a prostadium article) there wouldd have to be a 7million dollar a game in sales taxable items, 70000 seat stadium thats 100 per person average.

            • A Voter

              That should have been Museums, and Art Galleries, the Vikings don’t come close.

            • Ryan

              Yeah, because vikings fans are going to still travel here to see the vikings who are out in LA, right? The figure I put up is from VISITORS who travel here solely to see games. That revenue is from Hotel, car rentals, etc. People from every state around travel here to go to games. I can’t tell how many people from other states I’ve spoken with while at the games. Yes people still travel here for other purposes, but that money i spoke of will be gone, football fans are not going to continue to travel here to see the timberwolves or go to a play.

              • A Voter

                Way more people visit theaters, and art galleries than they attend Vikings games.
                Isn’t it nice that some families can sit in front of their televisions watching the Vikings while others worry about where their next meal is coming from.

                • A Voter who knows nothing..

                  yeah, those are open year round. The Vikings play a minimum of 10 games a year and still top those numbers of theater goers. Please find a decent comparison next time.

                • Also a voter

                  Guthrie annual attendance = nearly 500,000 Vikings annual game attendance = nearly 650,000(not including events that take place there the other 355 days of the year) Placing guilt on people who can derive pleasure from their lives seems kind of petty. I know the world sucks but why would you try to make people feel guilty for watching a football game? You could always be out organizing a food drive rather than complaining on the internet. Be proactive rather than reactive if it bothers you that much. Life is all about attitude. I’m happy that we live in a great state that can provide places such as the guthrie for those that like plays, a stadium for those that like baseball, galleries for art enthusiasts, and places for basketball, hockey, and football. I personally attend everyone of the things I just listed. I work hard for my money and chose to spend it on activities within our community so my money does just that, it stays in the community for the most part. I moved here from out of state to attend college, and love the fact that minneapolis has so much to offer so I never left many years ago. I hope this gets passed so myself and generations to come can continue to enjoy football and have a sense of pride for this state and community. I’m also part of a food drive this weekend. Our goal is to raise over 500lbs of food for local food banks. I for one do not feel guilty about deriving pleasure from watching or attending football games.

                • imamazed

                  wouldn’t you know that someone would only think of one place when there are alot more places than the Guthrie

          • orrin

            Where did you get your made up staistic of money being spent? The study by the Brookings Instiute will show how full of holes your point is.

      • 12 men in the huddle

        So, what other local businesses ask for public money to finance their operations (and I’m NOT talking about non-profit businesses)??? Why shouldn’t General Mills, Medtronic, Target, or Best Buy ask the public for money via a tax increase to expand their business with new stores, bigger headquarters, etc.. After all, they also provide a big benefit to Minnesota (not to mention being successful).
        I don’t know what memories you have to cherish ( 0-4 in Super Bowls, whizzinator, boat ride, 12 men in the huddle, take a knee, Herschel Walker trade, etc, etc.). Seems more like what one could see for MUCH cheaper at a comedy club.
        Go Vikes….and keep on going, all the way to L.A.!!!

        • randy

          The state has bailed out Daytons before…and NWA a couple of times. The city of Richfield gave Best Buy a TON of concessions to build their campus there. Target got concessions from Mpls to build downtown…need I say more??

        • gary

          You leave this comment on every Vikings’ story, troll. I sense a Packer fan/nut.

          • gary

            Above comment of trolling was for ’12 men’ comment.

      • Realist

        It is not my job, nor will it ever be my job, to preserve your family memeories around Vikings football….what a absurd argument! If the Vikes go, they go and if they stay, that would be great as well.

        Politicians are going to do whatever the Lobbyist tell them to do so they can collect their “profit”.

    • sush

      The stadium would not just be used 10 times a year, d ummy. Other events would be held. Concerts, truck shows, prep sports, final fours, and so on… I support the using of gambling revenues for the stadium. Didn’t you all want “no taxes for stadium”? Now you got it and it can still be built, but, you still complain.

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  • spare me

    They are going to shove this down our throats one way or another. I don’t know why any of them act like they care what our opinions are. Great plan Dayton, just push this through at any cost to the taxpayers.

    • kman

      They don’t care Dayton or the Republicans they have a History of falling in line with the Failed Bush Tax cuts to Create jobs

    • Kyle Weaver

      didn’t know that gambling had anything to do with the taxpayers. thanks for making that connection.

      • truedat

        Your post makes little sense.

  • Cmon

    It’s scary when people don’t see the economic benefits of a new stadium for the Vikings. I like it here and want to see this community be the best it can be. Can’t be the best if huge economic drivers move somewhere there’s a better public private relationship that is willing to make the commitment.

    • John


    • sam

      What economic benefit?
      Is this the theorized increase in spending disposable income? Economists have looked at the matter, and are pretty sure that it has, at best, a neutral effect. That disposable income is going to exist whether or not the sports team is in the area. And it is going to be spent whether or not the sports team is in the area. If you can’t go to a Vikings game, you’re going to go to a concert, or out for dinner more often, or to a movie.

      • Right on Sam

        Right on Sam. People just don’t understand that the stadium is not a money factory. If the Vikings go away, the money will still be here, short of a few hundred jobs that would go with the Vikings org. People will spend their money elsewhere.

      • Clark

        Exactly Sam! I couldn’t agree more! There is X amount of ‘entertainment dollars’ to be spent in a defined market area. Those dollars will be spent regardless if the Vikes are here or not.

        • patrick

          but what about tourism? there are a large number of out of state fans who come in to games to root for the vikes from surrounding states, or to root for their team against the vikes. they typically stay 2-3 days, and while the guys are at the games, a lot of times the gals are off at MOA or other tourist destinations.

          also, with a payroll north of $125M between players, coaches, support personell, etc, there’s a lot of state income tax paid on those salaries just within the organization

          and every opponent’s players are subject to MN income taxes on salary they get for the games they play in the metrodome…

  • Ray

    It’s narrow minded morons like “Al” that turn my stomach. He met be related to those other 2 short sighted blinders wearing morons Koch and Zellers.
    We could have built something less costly if we hadn’t stretched this out to 10 years. Zellers wants to wait till the next regular see ion so it will cost even more then. Great fiscal thinking!Yes restaurants benefit, along with their staffs, their food and beverage suppliers, etc.

    • Clark

      Name calling?

  • Clark

    Is expanded gambling going to be alright with Native Americans?

    • randy

      Are you referring to the 220 multimillionaires living in Prior Lake? Who cares, they’ve had their metro monopoly long enough. It’s time they competed for the almoghty dollar just like every other business has to.

    • Swamp Rat

      Who cares? There has been good and bad to the Tribes having the state monopoly on gambling. Now times have change for better or worse and the Native American Casino operators should realize they now are going to have competition.
      With that being said, maybe it’s time to change and enjoy the increased business that competition brings.

      Who knows maybe the tribes that have casinos might better improve the way they do business with or treat their peoples with the profits etc.. If the PC police stop trying to rewrite history and make faux paux appeasing overtures to the Tribes for problems that happened generations ago then possibly this gambling issue can benefit everybody.

      It’s the 21st Century and Americans of all ethnicities, ages, and persuasions must work together to make this nation and state better. If “legalized” gambling is one [short-term or long-term] way to accomplish economic benefit let’s do it. Let’s stop the vitriolic rhetoric and get this state and nation back on track. The same holds true for the new stadium venue.

      Let’s not lose the Vikings over arguing over ignorant precepts. Build it and they will come. There is money to made so let’s make the people reap the profits for a better life and state.

    • Nate

      Who cares, it’s America, we have the freedoms to do what we want or pass what we want. Besides they have been raking in the money without paying taxes for years. Don’t give me any of the “we took their land” business either. If it wasn’t us, it would have been another more technologically advanced civilization. If you still don’t agree, than lets give all back right now, and I should see you in the front of the line to leave this country.

  • TFerguson

    too bad the legislature’s and team owner’s firewall blocks this page:

  • Ray

    Since when do we always have to bow to the Native American’s approval for any kind of expanded gambling? Did they invent the “sport”? Yes they do great work and contribute tons of money to worthy causes from their take, but there is room for more action with expansion. We could have had the stadium issue bought and paid for moths and years ago had we not crawled away from the Native American disdain toward any competition.

  • m roz

    Maybe there should be a state vote to see how many people want the Vikings here–I’m sure more people want them here than not- Let’s get this done-The Vikings generate more money for the state then anyother sports team-Ziggy has spent the money on players to try and bring a winning team here-unlike our Twins who got a statium and don’t spend jack on and never have the Vikes should’ve got a statium before the Twins and the Gophers

  • MNwokrer

    The legislature and governer always cut budget. How could they come up with new stadium. I guess we need to draw more blood then jobs.

  • Not a fan

    Why don’t all the proud viking fans just donate their money for the new stadium. The rest of us who can’t afford to buy tickets to go, could care less about watching them on tv, and don’t benefit directly from the vikings won’t have to give out our money.

    • randy

      IGreat argument and ‘ll be happy to donate my money to a new stadium just as soon as all the parents in our state start paying for their own kids schooling. I never wanted to have kids, why should I have to pay for someone else’s to go to school, or why should my tax $$$ go towards welfare or …….

      • rich

        Right on Randy

    • MNHope

      I can’t afford tickets, but I love watching them on TV. So the “rest of us” does not include me. I am all for the stadium. I am one of those people who are unemployed and understand what it is like to be looking for work. It is stressful and not easy to live on unemployment. So if (and hopefully when) they get the big picture and approve the stadium, it can send a lot of people to and back to work. You may not benefit or like football (as some of our legislature appears to as well) but I (and my family) personally do. The stadium will host more than just 10 games. It will hosts concerts, other sports events, and other entertainment and charity events. As for the restaurants and hotels, they will benefit, as well as bring more people in for employment. And to me, some of those restaurant workers are some of the hardest working people out there.

      • Tony Benjamin

        and conventions

  • Get rid of Zygi and his bad boys

    Unless Zygi pays for a new stadium with his own or private financing, let him leave the state.

    No tax money should be used for a stadium and promoting gambling as a source of revenue to support Zygi’s private enterprise is absolutely insane.

    Come on Zellers and Koch, get this to a statewide referendum. Let the people decide, not Zygi or Dayton or inebriated fans.

    • Another tax payer

      Zygi is investing $400 million of his own money so we can have a facility for the whole state to enjoy. Go to any other state and tell them you want to invest $400 million into their community and see what they say.

    • Skol

      You are a moron. If everything was put to a statewide referendum, nothing would pass. Who wants to be taxed more?

      Simple question, do you want the Vikings in Minnesota or not.

      The majority answer is yes. Everybody else, get over it.

      I don’t like how the majority of my tax money is spent but I don’t spend the my days whinning on blogs like you gelded liberals.

      • if brains were gunpowder ...

        You’re a broken record, dufus. To answer your simple question, NO, I don’t want the Vikings in Minnesota … nor do I want you in Minnesota.

        If you’re so sure you have a majority, why do you fear a referendum? Oh, I’ll answer that for you: you know you’ll lose.

      • Guy

        ” Simple question, do you want the Vikings in Minnesota or not. ”

        Simpler answer – NO!

        • @ Poor Guy

          @ Guy – Again, an opinion, no facts!

      • Walter

        >> The majority answer is yes.

        Really? Then why don’t they want a referendum?

        Answer: Because it would go down in flames.

  • Wearejustasstupidastheyare

    I wish the Vikings would go, what about all the homeless families who is building them new homes. Why should these rich players and owners get any of our money when we should be helping our own citizens with jobs, homes and food. today on TV I say a spot saying there are more than 190 KIDS homeless in one county, why can’t we help these kids instead of the stupid Vikings and they did not say what race and anything they just said kids.

    • Working 91.8%

      The homeless thankT-Paw who cut funding every year he was govenor from various programs. Thank the GOP led Legislature who cut more funding this year. Thank the bankers for the foreclosure mess which is probably why some of the kids are now homeless. Thank big business and federal government for allowing jobs to be out sourced overseas and allowing the highest unemployment rates.

      • @ Working 91.8%

        @ Working 91.8%

        T-Paw – Your current Governor is behaving just like a Republican.

        Bankers at Fault – It takes 2 to Tango! The homeowner who didn’t read his/her contract, and now is in bankruptcy, please… Only buy what you can afford, that’s why the world is in a mess.

    • Skol

      Wish you would leave

  • Lester B/Zippy W

    GIVE ME ALL OF YOUR MONEY (except rich people, of course) OR I WILL THROW A TANTRUM AND TAKE MY TOY AND LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Get educated

      How is Ziggy throwing a tantrum? Many many people want the Vikings to stay.

      • Walter

        Then they can pony up their money for their entertainment.

  • It's not just for the Vikings people!!!

    Again…People…This stadium is NOT just for the Vikings. When will you people realize that. The Vikings will use the stadium a few days in a year. There will be hundreds of other events at the stadium besides Vikings football. That is why the Vikings should not have to pay for the whole thing. A new stadium will bring more events to MN…events that aren’t here now because the Metrodome is not a place many organizers want to hold their events. A new stadium will create thousands of jobs and help bring a lot of income to the state. Once you people start seeing past the “Vikings” and see what else it will bring to the state, then comment. Your narrow mindedness shows how much you really know about this issue.

    • Clark

      The Vikings Owner would build his own stadium if he had ‘hundreds of other events’ that he could rent it to when his football team is not using it. Not sure how 8 football games a year is going to create Thousands of jobs. Certainly not full-time jobs. Guess I just don’t get it.

      • Bryan

        Someone will have to work at the stadium all the time. Just like Target Field when the Twins are not there in the winter, they still have people working. I like how everyone did not want Target Field and now they built it everyone loves that place. Let build the Viking a new Stadium before they are leave like the North Stars then we ended up building Excel Energy Center for the Wild.

      • Tired of Clueless people

        No Clark, you don’t get it! If you can’t see how this stadium will create thousands of jobs, then you are clueless. Research before you comment from now on.

        • I agree, it's tiring

          Really? Yet you continue to look in the mirror every day.

          No, we can’t see how it will create thousands of jobs. How ’bout you list just one hundred of them for us?

          Yeah, talk about doing your research ………..

        • Nate

          Thank You! It would create jobs, I am a Project Manager for a Construction Company. This is the time to build, the economy sucks, contractors are hungry for work, therefore you will get lower pricing. Labor, Materials, Equipment, and Fuel only go up, if you delay this longer it’s only going to cost more later. If they leave it will cost huge money to get a team back. It also sparks the economy in Minnesota, by lodging, food, drinks, merchandise, and many other services. These people really are clueless.

        • Guy

          And every one of those “thousands of jobs” (yah – right) will come from people alread working at or around the dome. If football were ever to create that many jobs; IT ALREADY WOULD HAVE DONE SO! since we already have an active football team. This means that the net CREATION of jobs is EXACTLY ZERO!

          • Nate

            Dude, a bigger Stadium will hole more people, therefore you will need more workers to compensate for that increase. Second, it would generate a lot of jobs to build the stadium. Lastly, the property around the new stadium would sky rocket, new businesses are going to want to come in. Again this is an investment and you have to look to the future. Like any business you either grow or you die, stay as we are we die, period.

    • MNHope

      Amen! At least there are a few of us out there that get it!

  • Brian

    SKOL!!!! If you don’t want a stadium move to a state that doesn’t have one then!! Football is about more than just $. It is about memories and coming together for a common cause. Thousands of people enjoy going to the games and interacting with one another. If not that, then having gatherings at home. So we should take all of our hard earned money and spend it in other states to go see a football game? Then who loses? Some people don’t like football, I get that. But I don’t like or use certain venues that I have paid for. That is reality. Get over it.

  • cam

    Why should we have to vote on an issue that we elect leaders to figure out? Why do we have legislators if they are just going to have the people vote on difficult/unpopular decisions? Why didn’t I get to vote on my tax dollars funding the Guthrie? I don’t use it, I don’t care blah blah blah. There are so many other ways our tax dollars are spent (far greater amount than the stadium will result in) that we have no say over, why does this issue deserve a vote?

    • Ziggy

      Because the law states a referendum is required to approve sales tax increases. Next?

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  • just sayin

    i am rilly dum

  • Just reading between the lines

    Tell me who is making house payments from working at any stadium? or do these jobs you talk about pay more than 15.00 an hour?
    Are we not still paying sales tax for the Metro Dome?

    • Swamp Rat

      No, but those sales taxes are being channel toward Target field! Read between the lines in the fine print!

    • randy

      The sales tax used to pay for the Dome is now being used to keep the convention center going. Talk about a money pit, that place is a PRIME example!!

  • red

    I had season tickets for 5 years in the 90’s when they VIkes were fun to watch They have a stadium. If they don’t like it, put up some frickin $ Ziggy or go to LA. The vikings stink any how. I am so sick of hearing about this! Just go away at this point.

    • 12 men in the huddle

      The Vikings were fun to watch??? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

  • Mayhem





    • Still reading between lines

      At least our S.S. and welfare can go to the states gambling and not the Reservations or will the reservations still have the better gambling.

    • Ahh but that's why we have you.

      At least we have you and your over-sized brain to help us struggle along. It must be a burden to be so smart.

      • Mayhem

        its actually more of a burden to have to share space with republican farts…..

        but yeah, you are 100% correct.

  • rcunningham

    No wonder Packer fans mock Minnesota for having no support for their team…

    • Mayhem

      yet not as much as Viking fans mock fudge packer fans for being….fudge packer fans…….

    • 12 men in the huddle

      Actually it’s not really a “team” per se, more like a bunch of overpaid men performing a “comedy of errors (and I’m NOT referring to the Shakespeare play). They have this idea that you are supposed to LOSE in the Super Bowl (0-4), make complete fools of yourself (whizzinator, boat ride), choke at the most opportune times (12 men in the huddle, take a knee), and make the BIGGEST business blunder in all of professional sports (Herschel Walker trade).
      They are entertaining, but not quite in the capacity they were meant to be.

      • Mayhem


        but no ones been arrested for sleeping with children

        or thier brother/sister either……

        eveyone has there demons there, 12 men in a puddle…….

  • j speedbag 64

    ok zippy and all you vike haters it’s time to go buy case of kleenix because you guys are gonna be crying along time because we shall have our ”stadium”…….way to go dayton ……………



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