Vikings Stadium Cost, Site On Tap At Minn. Capitol

ST. PAUL, Minn. (WCCO/AP) — The push by the Minnesota Vikings for state money for a new stadium is back on the agenda this week at the Capitol.

The Vikings debuted a full-page newspaper ad over the weekend suggesting that income tax collections from Vikings and visiting players, team employees, and sales tax proceeds in the stadium could make up the state share. That could raise enough to pay a $650 million state share.

Lawmakers would then have to cover the ensuing hole in the state general fund. But at the relatively small cost of about $20 million a year to pay off construction bonds, it would let lawmakers avoid raising new taxes or authorizing expanded gambling.

Two state Senate committees hold a hearing Tuesday to discuss potential locations for the stadium.

The public hearings will be held at the State Capitol and will focus on potential sites for a new stadium. The first public hearing will be held Tuesday from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. in Room 15 at the State Capitol.

State Rep. Terry Morrow, DFL-St. Peter, was scheduled to hold a press conference to talk about a proposal on how to finance a new Vikings stadium but it has been canceled.

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  1. b says:

    If your one of those kinda guys who wear a suit and tie to work you should have to pay higher taxes real men work real jobs

    1. No Idea says:

      No idea what you just said! Go back to school!!!

    2. jackactionhero says:

      If you’re one of those kinda guys who wears a hard hat or has his name on a patch on the front of your shirt while you’re at work, you should probably have paid better attention in school.

      1. b says:

        hey jack action hero i bet you wear a suit and tie how can you call yourself a guy

        1. jackactionhero says:

          You bet, eh? LOL

          I don’t even own a suit, buddy.

          1. desert eagle .50 says:

            Why own a suit when you can’t tie a tie? Maybe you can git a clip on to go with your new dress.

            1. jackactionhero says:

              I can tie a tie.

              I don’t think it would go well with a dress, but let me know how people react, ok?

  2. r says:

    I vote no on new dorm,until we get a winning team,then no tax dollars.

    1. z says:

      How about we vote on getting you educated?

  3. I like the thinking! says:

    Hey, the Vikes are being proactive. They are saying flat out, if you do not pass this, you will have to replace that money if they move the team. The team moves, you get no tax revenue, so lets use what you will loose anyway and build the stadium. This is a no brainer, build a stadium.

    1. Ace says:

      People would spend their money on something else if the team moved. That is a no brainer

      1. Give me liberty says:

        Yeah, the money would magically remain. I’m sure another company that employ’s multi millionaires will magically move into the state to be taxed. What world do Liberals live in?

        Just because the taxes that the Vikings organization and supporters pays now is directed into the general fund doesn’t mean it will remain if the Vikings leave. Get a clue. The liberals will be the first ones crying for tax increases on the rich when the Viking leave. Don’t you see the irony in this? Pretty soon there will be no more rich people in MN to tax, who will pay then. Oh yeah, anyone else but me.

        1. Nate says:

          Thank you, I’m glad someone get it. This is all a money game, you take it away and it disappears. Take away the Vikes and other businesses will fold that depend on the football season cash flow. They are an asset to the State, take them away and it’s millions more that we will need to cover for education and transportation.

        2. Don't be a bird brain says:

          Do you know who Jason Lewis is? The guy who used to host a talk show on AM 1500 years back? The self-styled “America’s Mr. Right” who now has a nationally syndicated conservative talk radio program and who, according to his website, has “has wagon-circling appeal for righties nationally in the Age of Obama”?

          That Jason Lewis, a guy that no one with a brain in his head would EVER confuse for a liberal, had an op-ed piece in the Strib yesterday that strongly opposed a taxpayer financed stadium. Since he purports to speak for the principled conservatives out there, does his opposition leave you wondering “What world do conservatives live in?” If a liberal’s opposition to a new stadium has you smearing the intelligence of all liberals, why doesn’t a conservative’s opposition to a new stadium have you smearing the intelligence of all conservatives?

          In fact Lewis got this much right, at least: The pro-stadium crowd is distributed across the political spectrum:

          “When so-called free-market conservatives and anti-corporate-welfare liberals eagerly abandon any pretense of principle in the name of subsidizing (with other people’s money) their favorite franchise, you know we won’t be talking about balanced budgets any time soon.”

          You, on the other hand, don’t acknowledge this obvious and no less complex state of affairs. Why? Probably because you are one of those that are unwilling or as likely unable to provide the sort of reasoned, evidence-driven critic of public policy that might actually elevate the political discourse in this country. That kind of objective detachment requires critical thinking skills, and critical thinking skills are quick to erode when you rely on the distorting lens of a political ideology to dissolve away all complexity and nuance. Someone comes along with a view you disagree with, and you reflexively reach for your rhetorical cudgel and bash him over the head with the “you’re just a dumb liberal” pejorative. If you didn’t do that here, what compelled you to turn this into an anti-liberal diatribe?

          One thing is certain: this country would be a better place if we could shoo out of the public square you two and those you flock with, that gaggle of honking, hissing imbeciles who befoul our public discourse with your witless polemics.

          1. Nate says:

            An educated man…my guess a liberal college degree in English. I like how you try to “purport” that with your post. Have you ever had your hands in the dirt or grease like a lot of us working men do? I also have my right to state my points as we don’t live in the Socialistic, sort of, country yet.
            I don’t agree to fund Zygi’s “Taj Mahal” through our tax dollars. I would rather see money for this be funded through the downtown casino idea that is out there. I don’t believe one man’s stance on this, and I don’t regurgitate his beliefs through blogging all day. I however believe that the Casinos in the State are a Monopoly. The funding goes to all the Native American Tribes, which is good because everyone should be allowed to make money. However, they should have competition through State run Casinos. Here is my point, whenever I have to go to Mystic Lake for training in their conference center for my company, I am always walking by retiree’s there. I also think back to the news story of the lady winning 250k and not reporting her winnings so she could stay on Welfare. My question, that was never brought up is where did she get the money to gamble with initially? The tax dollars I have give to Social Security and Welfare are going to the Native American Casinos and there is no tax money generated from those casinos for our State. I also look to the Duluth and Fond Du Lac Tribe, the first off Reservation Casino site. The Tribe violated the agreement, hasn’t paid the contractual agreed upon money to the city. And now the Judge ruled in their favor to not pay the City of Duluth the $6 million for improvements towards the city, after the city allowed them to put a casino in town. For me I am outraged and I don’t understand how a contract agreement can be over ruled like that, but competition is needed in a free market society. This results in a pure business aspect that the State can run to generate funds.
            Say our Vikings leave. That tax revenue they generate leaves too, period. Not to mention the ripple effect of business that close that count on the Vikings for their revenue. Whatever the true amount is, we will be short yearly and it’s more tax dollars that will be needed on our behalf. Unless you’d be willing to make cuts, which I doubt.
            I also look to what the Vikings are offering with the Stadium. They will allow us to host other events there besides Football. What about our Prep Sport for our High School Players, Home and Garden Shows, Concerts, and many other events that could be hosted like with the Dome. This becomes a State Asset now doesn’t it? He’s not just going to use if for the Vikes. Lastly, Philadelphia and Dallas used subsidies to fund their stadiums too. Even the larger markets need help. To be able to draw the large scale cash cow for the State like the Super Bowl you need a state of the art Stadium not the Dome. That is just the society we live in, and unless everyone changes, that will remain the same.
            I just look at this for the future value and entertainment stance that we need as a society, because all the news out there is negative.

            1. jackactionhero says:

              The old folks will NOT go to a downtown Minneapolis casino. They are not comfortable there and parking is not safe for senior citizens. Getting in and out of downtown is not convenient for the geriatrics.

              The Vikings will “ALLOW” us to host other events there? Come on. The Vikings will only be leaseholders. It won’t belong to the team. It will belong to the state of Minnesota.

        3. frozenrunner says:

          @ Give me. The money that exists to spend on the people earning millions of dollars comes from the local population. The money spent on games and parties would be spent elsewhere in state, thus increasing some other business. In terms of the players and owners earning millions. Yes the state recoups some tax money. When they live elsewhere they spend the money there. That does not do the local economy much good. When you tell others to get a clue, what piece of the puzzle are you missing?

  4. kell22 says:

    Robbing Peter to pay Paul. The best argument I’ve heard yet to keep the Vikings is the tax revenue they generate, but if it’s going to be used to build a stadium, then what’s the point? Just doesn’t make sense.

  5. Dave P says:

    They can’t field a winning team. No hope of a Super Bowl in the near future. What have the done this year, 2 wins? Let them go, don’t dump money on to a dead horse.

    1. jackactionhero says:

      Detroit was 0-16 two season ago. How did they end up with a new stadium? Better fans?

      1. Guy says:

        DUMBER fans anyways….

        1. jackactionhero says:

          Not too dumb, if they’ve got the stadium and are happy with how they got it. Seems you’re just shouting at the wind but have no real reason, eh?

          Just mad at the world for how your life turned out, Guy?🙂

      2. RichardC says:

        49% of the cost of Ford field was paid for by the team and the rest paid for by the city of Detroit via taxes approved by the citizens of Detroit.

        1. jackactionhero says:

          Really? So why didn’t the players and coaches and owners all pitch in their own money instead?? LOL

  6. John says:

    They must think Minnesotans are complete morons to try a stupid lie like that.

  7. A King says:

    Isn’t this the same team that has lost almost every game they have played this year? Oh yeah, it IS same team that wants money for a new stadium….

    1. A Voter says:

      Your right! It’s a high price for a bunch of over paid losers.

  8. Ordinary Guy says:

    365-day benefit is what the public investment demands. Ringing the outside with shops, promenade, and business corridors above a transit concourse of rail and bus make sense, not some isolated 8-day satellite site in the boonies.

  9. paulc says:

    I am a native Minnesotan—we are strange folk. We have high welfare state benefits but we keep trying to drive out businesses that contribute tax revenue.

    And Minneapolitans are stranger still.—the vikings should be anywhere but St Paul—even Los Angeles.

  10. Go away Zygi says:

    Forget it, this is just more spin selling by the Vikings. No matter which way it’s presented, it all boils down to they want us to pay for their new stadium. It’s no different than the old joke — you can put a tuxedo on a goat, it’s still a goat.

    We’ve asked them for a Super Bowl win for the last 51 years and they’ve ignored us. It our turn to do the same with their demand for money. NO!

    1. jackactionhero says:

      “it all boils down to they want us to pay for their new stadium”

      LOL

      That isn’t even true. Is this how the “argument” about the stadium started? Because you don’t even know the arguments?

      Typical of Minnesotans. Can’t see past the tip of their own nose.

      How much would you stand to pay if the proposal is accepted? I bet you don’t even know, or that it doesn’t even affect you at all. Yet you complain anyway. Again, typical Minnesotan.

      1. Big Man On Campus says:

        And as usual you have a lot of nothing to say. You’ve never once put any verifiable facts behind your inane statements or claims but you sure spit out plenty of them.

        You think anyone who disagrees with you has a “bad life” but you clearly were the bully on the playground, the loud mouth at sporting events, the blow hard braggart in your social circle, and you probably got an extra ten points from the teacher if you spelled your name correctly on tests.

        However, I’ll give you credit for one thing. You post more frequently and more foolishly than the ‘cco editors let anybody else get away with.

        1. jackactionhero says:

          No verifiable facts, eh?

          Detroit was 0-16 and has a new stadium. Fact or fiction?

          The stadium will belong to MN, not Zygi Wilf. Fact or fiction?

          The money that is proposed for the state of MN to come up with for the stadium is ONLY for the roof of the stadium and the surrounding roads. Fact or fiction?

          I’d say “clearly” you’re projecting your life’s failures onto me in order to rid yourself of the pain of their memories, chief.

          Good luck.

          1. Skol says:

            And the 21 million lost by the state intake of current Viking revenue— if the Vikes leave— will be found at the bottom of the average guys pockets. That 21 million will need to be made up somehow. So, let’s not be so quick to pack ’em up. They are the MINNESOTA Vikings, therefore MN can kick in some dough to keep them THE MINNESOTA Vikings.

            1. hungover again says:

              They’re Zygi Vikings, moron.

            2. frozenrunner says:

              Spend 600 million plus interest at aa bond rating to get back 21 million a year? If only half the money spent on tickets, merchandise, and other Vikings related gets spent locally on entertainment the state would be ahead on revenue

  11. MNwokrer says:

    Can’t believed on Thanksgiving. We saw people staving on food and shelter. Why dont we used the money to help them find jobs so we able to generated tax revenue for our state. Rather stupid stadium.

    1. MEL says:

      WE NEED TO CREATE JOBS TO “” FIND jOBS!!!”””

    2. Ha says:

      And I see bums drinking booze on the street. What’s your point? Will you give them money, so they can spend it on more booze? Sorry but you have no convincing argument or writing skills.

    3. jackactionhero says:

      LOL

      So you agree with the tax hike.

      But you want the money to be given to homeless people instead. LOL

      Sorry, you want to help the homeless, you go give them your own money.

  12. MEL says:

    BOTTOM LINE IS, THE POLITICIANS WILL SPEND THE MONEY ON A WASTEFUL PORK PROJECT ANYWAY SO ID RATHER SEE IT GO TO SOMETHING WE CAN PHYSICALLY SEE THEN A MAKE BELEIVE PROJECT THAT WE WILL THROW MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AWAY ON AND NEVER SEE ANYTHING IN FLUISHION>>>>
    .

  13. MEL says:

    I SAY IF WE WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE STATE OR COUNTRY WE LIVE IN….STAND UP TO THE POLITICIANS WHO THROW OUR MONEY AWAY ON A DAILY BASIS.
    ITS TIME FOR AMERICANS TO FOLLOW THE STEPS OF THE ONES BEFORE US WHO FOUGHT FOR ” THE RIGHT TO VOTE ” EQUALITY <" CIVIL RIGHTS AND AGAINST THE VIETNAM WAR """" ENOUGH IS CERTAINLY E N O U G H !!!!!!! A NEW STADIUM, WE HAVE BIGGER FISH TO FRY!!!!

    1. LoLz says:

      Please feel free to write in all caps to make it more convincing….
      Let’s all just scream and rampage the streets to get what we want!

      1. MEL says:

        WHAT ARE YOU DOING?????

  14. MEL says:

    I DO WANT TO ALSO STATE, KUDDOS TO THE ONES STANDING UP AND PROTESTING WALL STREET BUT THEY NEED TO BE ORGANIZED AND NEED A KEY LEADER WHO WILL GET THE WORD OUT …..ALOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PROTESTING AGAINST.
    DO THEY KNOW ???? WHERE ARE THE MARTIN LUTHER KINGS OF OUR DAY????? WE AS A COUNTRY NEED A LEADER WHO IS NOT ONE OF GREED AND OR POWER BUT SOMEONE THAT DESPITE IT ALL WILL LEAD IN THE NAME OF GOODNESS AND GET THIS COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK.
    PLEASE…..DONT VOTE FOR THESE POLITICIANS WITH WHAT SEEMS LIKE A THIRD GRADE EDUACATION….WE SHOULD SEEK OUT THE BEST OUR COUNTRY HAS TO OFFER AND I CANT BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE WE NOW HAVE IN POWERE IS THE BEST WE CAN DO…..COME ON !!!!! PLEASE READ A STATEMENT MR. WARREN BUFFET PUT OUT ON HIS WEB PAGE ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO……. WE NEED A WARREN BUFFET. A SMART MAN OR WOMEN, A GREEDLESS MAN OR WOMEN AND A STRONG MAN OR WOMEN NOT AFRAID TO STAND ON THE SIDE OF RIGHT AND SOMEONE WHO WILL NOT CAVE WHEN THEY SEE DOLLAR SIGNS OR DEFIANCE. I PRAY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD THAT WE FIND OUR WAY BEFORE WE ARE STANDING IN SOUP LINES …………….STAND AND BE COUNTED !!!!

    1. Ordinary Guy says:

      Thanks MEL, but maybe even King or other heroes couldn’t live up to today’s scrutiny. You’ll just have to do a share of it each day, and so will everyone else, just as you say.

  15. pauline overby says:

    Everyone loves the Vikings. Me too. But they are a business that should be the responsible party for the new stadium. Why should the State, the County or any city be the ones to pay for a stadium that all the profit will go to a football owner.

    If for any reason we do put money into them it should be to buy the team, get rid of Zygi and hire a good manager and a good coach. The battle cry seems to be LETS LOOSE THIS ONE FOR (WHOMEVER IS COACH).

    I think they need to consider that they may not have some other city to actually take them, blackmail only works for so long. Let them go to Fargo, or Louisiana or some other place that would change their name to the viking Alligators or the Nevada Vikings.

    How much was that bus ticket to Fargo?

    1. jackactionhero says:

      “Why should the State, the County or any city be the ones to pay for a stadium that all the profit will go to a football owner.”

      Stadium profits will NOT all go to a football owner.

      You don’t know what you’re talking about. Is that news to you?

  16. desert eagle .50 says:

    Yep, Warren Buffet is a fine example of a greedless man.

  17. SO SAD says:

    I don’t want the stadium either, but it is going to be done whether we want it or not. This is why the government won’t put it to a vote; they know they will lose. But in order to fund the stupid thing, why not extend the sales tax – not raise it but extend it. Sales tax was to be charged on non necessary items. Why don’t we do that? Charge sales tax on candy, chips, bathing suits, etc. – you don’t need these items to live. Just my opinion……

  18. NO TAX MONEY !!!!!!! says:

    20 MILLION A YEAR ARE YOU CRAZY !!!??? NOT TILL MY TAXES GO DOWN !! REFUND THE $88 THEY JUST WENT UP !!! NO MONEY FOR BILLIONAIRES AND LOOOOOOOOOOOSER MILLIONAIRE PLAYERS !!!

  19. Nate says:

    This takes money from the General Fund, but it is money that the Vikings have put in there without any of our help, JUST VIKINGS, get that straight. Whether they leave or build the stadium that money will disappear, plain and simple. This takes all other Minnesotan’s out of the equation because it’s not money we put there. I am a Vikings fan, I also don’t approve of increased taxes, but the point they make is true and we will lose this money one way or another. I support putting a casino downtown or at the racing tracks to fill the void if we need more funding. Every time I go to the casino I see retiree’s. Also, the news story of the lady on Welfare and not claiming her 250k winnings so she could stay on Welfare. My question is where did she get her money to gamble with in the first place? The Native Americans don’t have to pay taxes on their casino earnings. Our tax dollars for Social Security and Welfare go to them through gambling and we only lose, it is not put back in to the system. Lets challenge that monopoly, put a casino downtown. Let’s use that money to put in to our education, roads, or for anything else. The main rules in business, “you need to take risks to succeed” and “you need to spend money to make money.” Being a Project Manager for a Construction Company, the time to build is now. Lower interest rates, poor economy and high unemployment equal HUNGRY CONTRACTORS therefore LOWER BIDS! Steel, Concrete, Lumber, and Labor keeps going higher. It will cost double in a matter of a few years. LETS KEEP OUR VIKINGS AND ENJOY THEM FOR YEARS!! Lets watch Ponder develop as Roger’s did for Green Bay. I like his leadership and his skills. I am excited for the future, the Vikings haven’t had a QB forever and have invested in wash ups for years. Here it is Minnesota, look to future, and don’t have such a short sense of vision. Philadelphia and Dallas needed subsidies too, and those are larger markets than ours.

  20. Can You Hear Me NOW! says:

    Taxes are paid to support the government bureaucracy. Why should we all pay more so the ones that have plenty make millions? We are still being taxed for the Metro Dome. Didn’t Pohlad make $65 million on the last stadium deal paid for by the tax payers?

    Any other business could use the same argument as these babies. If they want loyalty then they can Do something For the state or get the F___ out!

    This never goes on the ballot because it always fails. Our wonderful leaders ram it down our throat. Didn’t Pawlenty campaign on no tax payer funded stadium? How did that happen?

    1. jackactionhero says:

      Staying in MN IS doing something for the state. You missed that.

    2. Jmz says:

      I totally agree with your statement. Wish more would wake up and let their voice be heard.

      Thanks

  21. Jmz says:

    I have read all of the comments and why build something that we already have. Improve what you got not build new. People who have homes remodel and upgrade so why not the stadium WI did it so why can’t MN. If they want to leave the state then let them go. Like the MN Twins—-only the people in Hennepin Cty are paying for that stadium which it seems not to many know that. They should change the name to Hennepin Twins….Too many have lost their jobs and homes and now they want us to pay them to have a New stadium and who gets those jobs?? If the contract goes to the lowest bid then it could be out of state and their employees and MN will have nothing again. So wake up MN don’t let the GOV take more from us that we don’t have. The people need to have a voice in the stadium it’s our money that will really be paying for it. And if the politicians want to stay in office than they need to wake up and do the RIGHT thing and let the team leave if they want. The people need a say and from what I hear the majority DON’T want a new stadium.

    1. jackactionhero says:

      “I have read all of the comments and why build something that we already have. Improve what you got not build new.”

      This is not feasible. Please try to keep up. This was made clear months and months ago.

      1. And the big boy weighs in - again says:

        And you’re the one who’s always telling other people to “get a life.”

        Wow. By the way, which one are you? The purple face? The gold wig? The drunken beer swizzler? Ahhh, I’ll bet you’re all three.

        I’m surprised you weren’t invited to the senate meeting today – as an expert adviser or something.

        1. jackactionhero says:

          I stand by my comment. The Dome cannot be renovated to be up-to-date. Your pathetic school yard insults don’t change that. I am not intimidated by you, sorry.

          1. Johnny says:

            They can play at TCF stadium. It’s not used on Sunday and they have already played there.

            1. Skol says:

              Why not take over that Twins stadium? They’re a bunch of losers. BUILD A NEW STADIUM AND KEEP THE VIKES HERE!

              1. out of the mouths of drunks says:

                You call yourself a fan … and you don’t know that the Vikings are losers?

                Do you ever check the final score you numb nuts?

                1. Skol says:

                  The point is you sot of a human being, the state will lose $ coming in if they leave which will need to be made up by the tax payers since we operate in the red. To the tune of 21 million. Step 2, if you can follow so I will go slow… the MN sports teams (minus the ladies b-ballers) are a bunch of losers with relatively new places to play in comparison. We still love them. Step 3, they are the MN Vikings with a threat of becoming the LA Vikings. Therefore, MN should kick in some $ to keep them in MN to pay into the MN dept. of revenue. Ya got that numb nuts??

          2. desert eagle .50 says:

            Professional sports are a colossal waste of time, but probably good for the economy. Just like jacka** generates traffic on the forum, but is inherently totally worthless and has nothing to contribute.

  22. Goob says:

    Build a stadium with the players taxes??? After they apply all their “loop-holes”, there will be no money there…RIGHT??

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