ST. PAUL (WCCO) — You can bet there are people searching right now for the St. Paul Winter Carnival medallion.

WCCO This Morning found a couple of guys who could be considered expert hunters, because they’ve found the medallion not once, but twice. And it’s no coincidence.

“I’ve worked really hard, and I think the harder you work, the luckier you get,” said Jake Ingebrigtson.

Between Ingebrigtson and Rob Brass, they’ve searched for 38 years. And they actually found the prize in both 2007 and 2010.

They say they start thinking about the hunt for the next medallion year ’round. Both guys dedicate 8 to 10 hours for searching every day during the hunt.

“I think I’m pretty much physically exhausted, mentally, physically,” said Brass. “By the end of the hunt it takes a couple weeks to fully regain your strength.”

Both their wives support their passion. One even said to his fiancée before the wedding that the hunt comes with the deal.

Of course, there are some envious hunters who call Jake and Rob lucky. But luck is random. Searching for buried treasure — and finding it — is not.

“I’d rather win the lottery twice,” said Brass. “If we’re really talking about luck. It’s a lot of hard work.  You have to get out there and you have to try.”

The two hunters say their best hunting tip is to simply get out there and dig. They say that many people analyze the clues but never really dig in.

With that in mind, here is Tuesday’s clue, the third for this year’s hunt:

Crack the nut and find the treasure.
There’s a place to cook and a place for leisure.
A road there is that’s interfacial.
Bag the treasure if you are able.