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Marilyn Tavenner, Administrator for Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, US Department of Health and Human Services speaks during a hearing with the House Ways and Means Committee in Washington, DC, October 29, 2013. Tavenner, the first Obama administration official to testify before Congress about the rocky start to healthcare.gov, took congressional heat at a hearing probing problems with the October 1 debut of the website through which millions of Americans are expected to sign up for health insurance. Tavenner acknowledged consumers were having difficulty enrolling through the online exchange marketplace due to various "glitches" in the system. AFP PHOTO / Jim WATSON(credit: JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images)