ST. PAUL (WCCO) — There haven’t been any negotiations between Gov. Mark Dayton and Republican lawmakers on day 12 of the state shutdown, but there’s been plenty of talk.

As the Gov. tours the state, activity on the state capitol grounds is full of heated rhetoric.

Some of the protests in St. Paul Tuesday were planned and some were spontaneous.

In fact, Minnesotans weren’t the only ones with signs. A tour bus from Florida filled with seniors who are touring Capitol buildings around the country arrived and said this is the only one they can’t get into.

They had harsh words for state leaders and those not standing up for their jobs in Minnesota.

“I don’t know why we outsiders have to come here and stand on your steps. I came here one time and there was one man protesting,” said Martha Harrow, who lives in Florida. “Why are you all sleeping? Why are you sitting on your ass? Why don’t you get out and march and protest?”

Meanwhile, Dayton left St. Paul Tuesday and started his tour of the state in St. Cloud. He met with parents and teachers of special needs students to highlight the impact of budget cuts on special education.

Dayton told the group he has a nephew with autism.

“The purpose in me coming here today — and going elsewhere around the state — is to communicate to Minnesotans what’s at stake for them, for us, in these budget deliberations,” he said. “And how important it is that all of our voices are heard so that we have a balanced compromise quickly as possible; one that protects those with special needs … education … home health care. It’s about people.”

Dayton will visit Rochester Wednesday and Moorhead on Friday.

Republicans and Democrats continue blaming each other for the shutdown impasse. While Dayton took his budget message on the road, Republican Majority leader Amy Koch was critical of Dayton for not allowing her to accompany him on the tour.

Dayton said the Republicans’ time might be better spend coming up with a budget offer.

Comments (109)
  1. Keith A. McCorkell says:

    What happen to fair unbias reporting? WCCO is again showing their pro DFL support with their reporting. The report on the elderly ladies on the tour bus protesting at the State Capitol was incomplete. Do you mean to tell your viewers that these ladies sat in their bus, having all of the necessary materials, and created the dozens of signs that they were holding? Who provided these signs? The DFL? Channel 4-WCCO?
    Come on!!! Be real!!! Do you really think that your average viewer is that stupid? Be honest and tell the truth!!!!

    1. Nate says:

      What do their signs have anything to do with a DFL bias? I’m pretty sure the government shutdown is the fault of both parties.

      1. Chasimoto says:

        NO.NO.NO.NO.NO. The legislature provided Dayton with a balance budget with a 6% INCREASE of the previous biennium. The shutdown falls squarely on Dayton’s shoulders!!!!

        1. Steve says:

          You really have NO CLUE do you?

          1. just saying says:

            obviously you don’t.

            1. ya ya betcha says:

              obviously no one does not even either party!!

              1. TwinsRAwesome says:

                “The legislature provided Dayton with a balance budget with a 6% INCREASE of the previous biennium. The shutdown falls squarely on Dayton’s shoulders!!!!” What is so hard to understand about this? THANKS CHASIMOTO!!!

                1. schooled says:

                  Smart like floor

      2. Tan pup says:

        Really, how about that legislation for morality at the last minute. How about the top 7700 people paying the same as someone who earns less than they do? Who is the biased one now. Accept the facts – all of them. Oh, and I really doubt you are one of those 7,700.

        1. Hunter says:

          Ladies and Gentlemen, Pink Puppie shows us once again that the MN herd needs to be thinned out some. It’s is a perfect example of someone who greets and wakes up each morning to a great big glass of stupid juice. “The top 7700 people paying the same as someone who earns less than they do”—Christ, how did you make it out of kindergarden class. Let me guess—special Ed class??

          1. Jim says:

            Hunter, do you have anything to add to the discussion other than personal insults? Good use of your time?

            1. Hunter says:

              F’en Absolutley—I call out, pick apart and humble the various idiots from the MN Liberal herd that scribe their baseless dialog, non-logical statemens, erronous stats and rants. Now go back to washing your bed sheets you wetted last night, Jim.

              1. Badger says:

                What a jerk you are! And maybe you should learn to spell, Mr. Intelligent!

      3. bob marcotte says:

        .Not hardly, Nate.
        This whole mess sits squarely on the shoulders of Gov Dufus.
        He is the one who turned down a short term, temp funding bill that would have keept the State running. This was proposed by the Legislature.
        Republicans were elected because they ran on no taxs, tax reduction, fiscal responsibility.
        Liberals are the morons to blame.
        What you need to do, Nate. is get educated and pay attention. Put blame where it belongs.

    2. Michelle Bachmann says:

      The truth is the Republicans don’t want to compromise, they want it their way or nothing at all – they haven’t come up with anything yet. They are all for the rich and we all know it!!! Bunch of idiots!

      1. Dayton is weak says:

        @Michelle Why should the Republicans do anything but wait? Governor Dayton keeps lowering his budget requests. What not keep waiting until he finally agrees with the $34B budget? It will happen.

      2. bob marcotte says:

        Stupid does as stupid is.
        Or is it stupid is as stupid does.
        Substitute Dummycrates and now you get it right.

    3. Anita Biggerbus says:

      See this report proves it….. several people other than overpaid AFSCME members notice that the state is “shut down”

      ….. Old people on tour buses and union workers hit hardest – the mean GOP is to blame

      1. @anita BIGGERBUS says:


        1. Anita Biggerbus says:

          no you read it right the first time.

          I know you say you haven’t had a raise in a decade but keyboards are inexpensive and you seem to need a new one being that your “caps lock” is stuck.

          1. @anita BIGGERBUS says:

            Yoy are a looser

            1. Anita Biggerbus says:

              Oh good you figured out the “caps lock” key

              Now in your time off you can work on simple spelling. Its getting better but you still spelled half of the 4 words wrong in your last comment.

              1. Jim says:

                Anita, got anything of substance to add? Do you really think insulting people is going to convince anyone? I’m sure you were a bit hit on the playground, but it’s time to grow up.

              2. James says:

                LOL. @anita BIGGERBUS, If you’re looking for work, I hear the betty ford clinic needs a new bartender.

    4. Steve says:

      You are outta your mind…do you know who owns cco pal????

    5. Who's Bias says:

      What about Fox 9 news always showing their support for the GOP.

      1. just saying says:

        Because they are fair and balanced….
        They are telling the truth.

        1. Tan pup says:

          and owned by Rupert who is such a high upstanding fellow.

  2. Mike Hawk says:

    Well I’m at work but all of those state workers don’t have an excuse. If it was my job & I didn’t have $hit else to do that’s where I’d be. Bunch of lazy SOBs!!!

    1. maggieMn says:

      Mike Hawk. WIsh you would leave this state or lose your job.

    2. Anon says:

      I agree with mike, the state workers are being seen as the lazy people that they are. Also if our state can function with so many of these workers laid off, maybe we should consider making many of these lay offs permanent. That would help balance the budget

      1. @anita BIGGERBUS says:

        Maybe you should crowl in hole.

        1. Redneck Purist says:

          TRUE AMERICAN, is that you? I’d recognize that second grade spelling and diction anywhere. I truly hope this is all over soon so you can get back to doing what you do best. Leaning on a shovel.

    3. Ed says:

      Lazy SOBs huh, how about the fact that many state workers aren’t waiting around twindling their thumbs as you say they are and taking other opportunities elsewhere. Any good business should know that you keep taking away from your workers they will eventually leave for a better package elsewhere. The ones not leaving are typically the less qualified ones that can’t get the other opportunities elsewhere, good luck trying to build an efficient work force.thru that.

      1. Big C says:

        Do any of you realize that there are real families here hurting? Most state workers aren’t overpaid and can’t afford to drive down to the capital now that they have no income. Do you really think most people are going to take a job elsewhere when they could very well have their previous job back soon? I don’t think you should be labeling people “less qualified” just because they don’t take a job elsewhere. Those people your bashing could very well be your neighbors. This is different than a real layoff because you don’t know if you should move on or not. By the way state workers are thought of on here I think they should all move on to a different state where people actually care about other humans.

        1. Redneck Purist says:

          I don’t think people really think all state employees are of no use or are bad employees. But the state has over spent, and many of these jobs are redundant and therefore wasteful. And no one is lining up to volunteer to leave their job for the good of the state. So we need to make the cuts. And we shouldn’t keep people in their jobs just because they might be our neighbors. Companies downsize and lay off employees all the time. I was laid off two years ago. The state needs to be able to make necessary cuts when times are lean, and right now they are lean. If we don’t do what needs to be done now, we’ll crash hard later.

          1. Ruth says:

            The only people who should be volunteering to lose their jobs – permanently – are the politicians and the governor. None of them are essential as it turns out.

    4. Tan pup says:

      I bet you would be the first one to register for umemployment and complain it doesn’t equal your take home pay. Oh, and maybe you might get that pink slip soon; considering you are not “working”, your commenting on a blog.

  3. Bob says:

    Seriously?? We now have people from Florida here to protest? What are they protesting and why?

    1. Sandy says:

      they are touring all capitals, this is the only one they can not get into to tour, that is what the article said, they did not come here to protest.

      1. worker says:

        Then where did they get the signs???
        And they had no clue before leaving their previous spot?
        Nice try DFL.
        The next bus is going to be Minnesota workers, oh wait, they are working…

        1. Tan pup says:

          They are old; what else do they have to do? These people probably are from MN and moved to FL to avoid paying taxes here. Got to love that!

  4. Middle of the road says:

    “you stay there and tell me what I want to hear while I go out and try to get people to tell you to tell me what I want to hear. Brilliant, juat billiant.

  5. kevin says:

    They all look like ex state workers that have fled the state when they started receiving there pensions from MN.

    1. Hunter says:

      I don’t care who ya are, but that’s funny right there!!

  6. mike says:

    I keep thinking about those state workers who were caught last year by Channel 5 going to SA, taking long breaks and being useless!!!

  7. Wasting time says:

    Sign holders serve no purpose to anyone but themselves. They should be working instead of this emotionally charged nonsense. No wonder the state is in trouble if this is what they hire. Go get a job people of mow sombody’s lawn.

    1. Tan pup says:

      News flash; if you are talking about the state workers – they had a job which contributed to the tax base as well as the economic well being of you. Also, tell me; where is that job tree see? You poor soul, in your simple mind; so many lawns; so few workers – Mowing a lawn – that should help put food on the table. . . It’s too bad you are so narrow and fearful of standing up for what you believe in -outside of hiding behind a keyboard. It is people just like you who stick their heads in the sand and refuse to rock the boat (for any reason) and continue being a rug. By the way, what is your purpose to the overall contribution to humanity?

      1. New flash plus size (high school teacher) says:

        Tan pup, these losers aren’t standing up for anything. Don’t kid yourself. If that were the case they wouldn’t all be in unison and only after the state forced it. Face it, 99.9% of the public workers can’t make it in a lateral job in the private sector. It get’s worse for there, just look at the teachers. Pure entitlement. Stomping up and down to save their thiefdoms. They’ve been exposed. Now it’s time to cut the fat from MN gov’t to 50% or less.

  8. david says:

    Now here is an idea, instead of looking for someone to blame, do something about it. All I ever read here is your everyday average run of the mill person, doing the same thing that the politicians you claim to dislike are doing, playing the blame game. STOP it and do something about it, OR is it easier just to sit at home on your computers and do nothing but complain. Protest, have recall petitions circulated, but do something!!!!!

    1. maggieMn says:

      David. First sane comment I’ve read! Totally agree. Wish all the politicians would read it and understand it as well.

  9. GOPSUX says:

    Anyone who is a republican is dirty filth.

    1. Non-Filthy Republican says:

      Nice, constructive argument there, GOPSUX. Not all Republicans agree with the “my way or the highway” mentality that plagues BOTH parties. There is a way to compromise, but this finger-pointing and demonizing is not helping.

    2. Ferris Lind says:

      God your an Idiot

    3. GOPSUX says:

      My name is GOPSUX, and I am a complete idiot. I admit it. I have no real future. I am also really fat and I smell bad. I haven’t been laid in years. I guess thats what happens being a liberal. Oh did I forget? I am really lazy too. I like people giving me their money and eating doritos…. ooh those cool ranch are my favorite. Probably the reason I have a few zits, but thats ok, my right hand doesn’t care.

      1. Non-Filthy Republican says:

        What a dumb A$$

    4. P. Wellstone says:

      It is better to let people assume you are an ignorant moran, than to type messages proving that their assumption is correct.

  10. Jean says:

    It’s called “Passive/Agressive”-as well known in this state as “Minnesota Nice:!

  11. John says:

    He found time to take a tour around the state but won’t have time to solve the the budget plan. He’s wasting our tax payer money. They need to wake up and smell the coffee or this state is going to be a dead zone like other cities

  12. Trudy B says:

    Because these politicians need to learn how to do their jobs without us. It’s what we’re paying them for. What good is protesting going to do? The people of MN can not rescue the government, they need to learn to control their spending otherwise they will expect us to bail them out of the next overspend. When you have less income in your household, what do you do? Spend less right? Make cuts right? Same should be for the government – spend less. I see the White House Staffers got an avg of an 8% raise and Matthew Vogel, special assistant for economic policy got an 82% raise. Nice belt tightening that Obama promised among his staffers.

    1. Steve says:

      Try making the wealthy pay their share as they did under Clinton…State spending will always go up as people’s needs increase..its a revenue problem…the spending will always be there…

      1. leroy says:

        Good idea Steve,
        Let’s hand out more money to get pregnant while in High School, increase the number of years you can be on welfare. Heck, let’s give every Minnesotan $1000.00
        That should solve the budget problem.
        How about everyone pays taxes?
        Otherwise people like you will always want someone else to pay your way.

        1. Just saying says:

          Bravo… bravo…
          Steve lacks common sense.

      2. Hunter says:

        Duh??? Here lieth the problem blowhard…state spending always increases regardless of current of future revenues. Your brilliant idea, if a shortfall, spend more and tax more…specifically tax the working rich. We’ve never seen a created government program, tax or fee that goes away, ever. Once it’s there, it’s there forever, regardless of the the times. People’s needs don’t automatically mean they be provided or administered by the governement.

    2. Won't Compromise says:

      Well what about the 138 legislatures that are still getting paid during this shutdown and have voted for automatically getting a raise each year and then they try and tell the people (Geoff Micals) that we felt it was right to cut our own spending first, right ! They cut their per diem by 10 dollars, what a sacrifice but they want to cut billions from the poor and middle class but can’t raise a dollar tax on the rich, who are the crazy people.

      1. Hunter says:

        It’s called cutting billions of UNEEDED government spending. Gov Goofy says we can’t function with a $36 billion state budget (the largest budget in this states history)?? HS, the sky is falling………NOT!!

    3. bob marcotte says:

      Steve lacks anything close to, or, even resembling common sense.

  13. Steve says:

    After reading some of the TeapubliCON’S statements here , its easy to see who messed up MN…Timmy and the GOP

    1. bud says:

      Oh really,
      It had nothing to do with a massive stimulus bursting? Or are you clueless to the housing crisis that was caused by the government?
      By your analysis, if you can call it that, with the Dems in control of 2/3rds of the state at that time, the Dems are 2/3rds responsible, where Tim was only 1/3rd.

    2. Just saying says:

      Really because Minnesota has been heavily liberal for years… so you think that it’s happened that fast all because of the GOP? Interesting analysis there Erkel.

    3. Stacy says:


    4. bob marcotte says:

      Steve, baby. I thought perhaps you were a little feeble in the brain department. Now, having read more of your posts, you have removed all doubt..

  14. recall says:

    I think we all should recall Koch and Zeller.

    1. ME says:

      Yes the morons need to go.

    2. Had it up to here says:

      Yeah and then the deer in the headlights stare of Dayton would glimmer brightly, just what a liberal would want! Recall Dayton the man is a old school family money putz! His own family didn’t want him to waste anymore “DAYTON wealth” running for office! I just had a horrible thought!!!!!!!!!!!!! he’ll run against who ever beats obama in 2012 in 2016! Get rid of bum!

  15. Steve says:

    Wish we could recall em recall…

    1. Just saying says:

      Greatfully they won’t be. Get a job steve.

      1. Hunter says:

        Go easy on poor Steve. And I believe he has a job. He’s a tenured teacher that works a few months of the year and doesn’t have to worry about being accountable or factual on his preachings to any boss or higher power. Just look at his scribings…..

        1. bud says:

          QHunter I bet you cry when your hands get dirty dont you?

  16. P. Wellstone says:

    WDFL…oops I meant WCCO, always reports from the middle! No left leaning here.

  17. Tan pup says:

    What I find amusing is that all of these comments about lazy state workers reflect someone not actually doing their jobs, just blogging; unless of coarse they work for WCCO. Might want to think about that. One other thought, what makes your job so essential to anyone but you?

    1. P. Wellstone says:

      The beauty of this to me is that as a state employee during the shutdown 1) I get some nice summer time off 2) I can collect unemployment and 3) when I return to “work”, I will receive back-pay for my time off. PLUS, I get all of this for being “non-essential”! Don’t all of you private sector folks get the sme thing during a lay-off or down-sizing? God bless MN and the USA.

      1. Stateworker says:

        And we get to retire earllier than you private sector people.
        By rule of 90, I can retire when I am 58.
        You all have to work until your 67.

        1. Had it up to here says:

          You work or just show up and draw acheck? Yup the latter, thought so

        2. Had it up to here says:

          Pucking Unions!

        3. Lazy bones says:

          Betcha all your marbles you don’t get to retire at 58 bubba. It will change this year or next.

        4. State worker no more says:

          You must have a good job:) Can’t believe some poor sap would get up each day and drone on for 60 years in the public sector, then brag about retirement.

      2. Big C says:

        What makes you think state workers get back-pay? That is not in any plans I’ve seen. Last time they had to use their vacation. Nice summer vacation. Can’t really go anywhere because you don’t know when you will have to go back to work and then when you get back all of your vacation is gone.

    2. Hunter says:

      Pink Puppie….aka, Esme Murphy……
      My mama says, stupid is as stupid does……..

  18. Trudy B says:

    Just be careful who you vote for…

    1. Nate says:

      Yeah. This is really easy because all of the politicians run clean and honest campaigns that really get to the heart of their core values.

  19. Sarah in Outstate MN says:

    Why didn’t Dayton call a “lights on” sesson? He could have avoided this, but didn’t. That being said, both sides need to come to a compromise. FAST (yes, I am shouting).

  20. Had it up to here says:

    Ok lets see if I understand this Dayton is pandering his views to the (at most)5% of parents of special needs students, and “feeling there pain” so as to speak because he has anephew with autism? really? REALLY! i’M NOT TRIING TO BE THE BAD GUY BUT SERIOUSLY FOLKS! I agree special needs students and their families need some help.
    But realistically DAYTON needs his head examined(look at his eyes) he’s clueless as the needs and expectations of the magority of state residents!
    Lesson one DAYTON, you(the state/democrats) can’t take care of evrryones problems, you can’t take care of your own!
    To all politicains regardless of party (sigh) affiliation, a flat tax on income across the board. Limit ALL state “paid” social services to $600 per month, per family member capped at $3600 per month for a maximum of 3 years.Encourage people to become “self sufficent” as opposed to being ‘state dependent(s)”. This would trim millions over the next 3 years and beyond.
    Lets tax fast food based on the unhealthy lifestyle and”financial burden” it puts on the State health system, say 25% for anything the FDA deems as having excessive sodium/sugar or fat,
    Reopen Canterberry Park and Running Aces, the state will never recover the lost revenue and the future of keeping Quality horses around the area is slim.
    I would run for office but I feel I cannot, as I inhaled( I know shame on me) and I like to make career politicians cry! Why do I have to drive over 2 hours to get POWERBALL?! Get with it all you ghumbalones nambypamby politicians, do whats right for those that voted you in and surely will vote you OUT!

    1. Had it up to here says:

      Sorry about the typo’s but I tend to get excited about tis mess, and the $3600 a month is more than a lot of 2 income families NOT getting state services clear every month.

    2. P. Wellstone says:

      Dayton was a self-admitted failure as a US Senator for MN. He has never had a real job in his life. These facts, and many more, made him a perfect choice for Governor.

  21. bob marcotte says:

    Liberals, intellectually bankrupt, mentally constipated and 4-ever stuck on stupid.
    Liberals flatly are incapable of competing in the arena of ideas. trying to have a reasonable conversation a liberal usually lasts about 2 minutes. At that point, they start calling you names, play the class warefare thing, the race card, and accuse you of everything. It goes on at nausium.
    History shows that some nimrod Dummycrate will spend the time to point out all the miss-spelling, puncuation and grammor errors.

  22. Always in favor of less government says:

    Maybe I’m missing something, but why do we care about some Florida retirees and their comments about our shutdown?

    1. Had it up to here says:

      Florida has retirees?

    2. Jake says:

      Yeah, and did you catch the accent of that big-mouthed old woman?? Definitely a new yawka. What does she care about the state of our gov’t anyway? Does she even know that NY just passed a budget that CUTS spending and doesn’t raise ANY taxes?? Why isn’t she protesting there?

  23. Deep Thinker says:

    If Tony Sutton & Amy Koch had a baby together, do you think it would be obese?

    1. Oh Yeah. So What says:

      They would probably eat the baby.

  24. Keep It Real says:

    The marching should be to recall Dayton. Funny how the libs try to pin this on Tpaw, even though he could only sign the budget they sent him. Yet somehow they think this is the Reps fault, who passed a fair balanced budget which Marky D refuses to sign.

  25. Jake says:

    The reason that many of us aren’t down at the Capitol wasting our time is because we are actually WORKING and PAYING TAXES, something that I’m sure at least some of these loud-mouthed tourists don’t know too much about.

  26. Alfred says:

    “Why are you all sleeping? Why are you sitting on your ass? Why don’t you get out and march and protest?”

    Because they are government workers. They get paid for doing nothing and they are used to it.

    1. Jake says:

      OOOOhhh. That’s hitting below the belt, but I LIKE IT.

  27. gonzo says:

    Why don’t we march like they apparently do in Florida? Because we yankees have figured out that it doesn’t do any good. I’ve poked fun at WCCO for constantly reporting the different ways in which the shutdown affects the state, but our politicians would have to be even stupider than they’re acting not to notice the growing anger reported by the media. We nice Minnesotans may not march, but we will sure as heck drop the hammer come election time. Compromise is an essential skill in democratic politics, and politicians on both sides of the aisle have proved their incompetence. If they don’t sit down and get ‘er done soon, I think they can consider themselves fired.

    1. Swamp Rat says:

      Right On! Exactly my sentiments!

  28. Trudy B says:

    The U.S. is already one of the highest taxed countries in the world (individually and corprate). I don’t think raising taxes is going to help in the long run. That is a one year solution and Congress spends $10 Billion dollars a DAY – we the people (the ones that are still working that is) can not afford to pay that much anymore and still buy gas, food, and medical care. So many people run for president and promise this and that and think they can fix the problems but then when they get in there and try to make some changes, it’s not as easy as they thought. We need someone who really knows what to do and understands economics. Maybe they should get all past presidents together and have them help make some decisions since they already have experience. Something has to happen and quick.

    1. Swamp Fox says:

      @Trudy B
      Per capita and per dollar, the US doesn’t have the highest taxes [individual or corporate] in the world. Just a quick look at many European countries and a few Third World countries. You will find that regardless of social strata those countries tax everyone more heavily than the USA. –That’s per monetary unit &/or income. So we don’t have that bad but our tax system does have its rough edges and loopholes.–

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