ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton says he’s ready to do whatever he can to urge voters to reject the proposed voter ID constitutional amendment that will appear on the ballot in November.

Dayton issued a symbolic veto of the amendment Monday, though he has no legal power to stop it from appearing on the ballot. The GOP-controlled Legislature signed off on it last week.

Dayton says the amendment would cripple Minnesota’s election system by curbing same-day voter registration, absentee balloting and mail-in voting. Backers say requiring voters to prove their identity is an election integrity measure.

The governor says he doesn’t think there is a way to prevent it from going to voters.

Dayton symbolically vetoed another amendment last year: One defining marriage as only between a man and a woman.

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Comments (150)
  1. Kevin says:

    In other news Gov Dayton urged Obama to keep the border open……..he also urged Law Enforcement to not request a form of idea from anyone speaking spanish……..

    1. The_Adversary says:

      Did you even read the article. In practicality the measure is attempting to DISABLE democratic action “by curbing same-day voter registration, absentee balloting and mail-in voting”. There’s no mention of the President or anything about Spanish speaking Americans. In democracy you have to respect everyone, not exclusively people similar you.

      1. Kevin says:

        Too bad you don’t understand sarcasm – Kevin’s comment was clever tongue-in-cheek.

      2. Openwater says:

        That’s not what the measure is doing at all. It’s attempting to make it more fair by closing loopholes in the system. Those loopholes are HUGE. Same-day voters could still vote and register if they have an id (which I know most people do). I’m sure there will be something to deal with absentee voting. YOU have to respect everyone. It is way too easy to vote multiple times in this state; it’s ridiculous. It’s not about democrats or republicans. Not only republicans have id’s and vote in-state.

    2. Doug says:

      Are electronic voting machines more or less dangerous than someone voting without an ID?

  2. barrister says:

    I will certainly be voting against it this ammendment will only
    mean more votes for republicans

    1. Openwater says:

      Because only republican’s have id’s? Are you saying only republicans are legitimate citizens? Or are you saying that only democrats are abusing the system?

    2. justathought says:

      You know that old saying… vote early, vote often, vote Democrat?

    3. says:

      No,it will mean less votes for dems.

    4. Duanes says:

      Yea, like we need more attorney’s around too. If, you truly are one.
      Real tuff to get a photo ID and carry it around with you. Next we will have to wipe your a** for you because your so, helpless.
      My late Mother in a wheel chair had no trouble getting a photo ID and carrying it.

    5. Leroy says:

      In other words, the Democrats are cheating?

      1. DC says:

        Yeah, they think that ONLY the democrats cheat: you know the old saying: you project what you are.

    6. whatever says:

      That is why I will vote for it. Get those democrats out of office as soon as possible. And its funny how you think only people without an I.D. will only vote for Democrats, that in itself is a reason it should pass. We all know what democrats want, spend other peoples money with no regard on how its going to be funded.

      1. Lisa w. says:

        Easy does it “whatever!!” We inherited this mess from the lovey George Bush & company after Clinton had successfully balanced the books. How short your memory is. It took 8 years to get into the awful mess we’re in….it will take at least 8 years to get out of it. Thankfully Obama took over……whatever!!

    7. No sheep here says:

      Well I’m voting for it!!!! Last time I took the advice of a drug addict lit up to the point of slurred speech I was just a kid and even then I knew better!!!!!

  3. solutions777 says:

    So Dayton wants to let anybody and everybody vote. How about registering the dead, the unborn and pets? Even Canadians could visit for a day to vote, voter tourism?

    What is he afraid of?

    If someone wants to vote, then register with identification and vote with identification. What is the problem with this?

    Censorship is evil.

  4. speed bump says:

    Well, that does it. Dayton’s “urge” telling me to vote “no” means I will vote “yes.”

    A couple of serious points:

    * We don’t know the extent of voter fraud because a) no statistics are kept on it and b) if it’s successful, nobody knows it happened!

    * If you still write checks, you always need to show an ID. Even if you use a debit or credit card, many places will also ask to see an ID. Federal law has long required individuals to obtain a social security number shortly after birth so there’s a form of required ID right there already. If you get stopped for any traffic reason, you need to show an ID. If you cash a check at a bank you need to show an ID. If you cross a US border you need an ID (and a passport!). In most foreign countries you can spend a little time in the clinker if you don’t carry your official papers (ID) at all times. Come on folks, obtaining and showing an ID is no big deal. Dayton’s just being a putz because he likes to veto anything a GOPer presents – whether it makes sense or not.

    To to YouTube and search for videos on voting in MN for some actual “tests” of how easy it is to vote in MN and NOT be who you claim to be.

    No big deal..

    1. Huh says:

      @ speed bump:

      * So you’re saying there must be a problem, but we’ve got no evidence to support that contention.

      * Writing checks is not a right. Cashing checks is not a right. Driving a car is not a right. Crossing a US border into another country is definitely not a right. Your social security card is not a form of ID.

      “Papers please” indeed. Exactly the kind of stuff our Founding Fathers sought to avoid.

      1. whatever says:

        Voting is not a right either, it is a privelege that Legal citizens are encouraged to do. If you are to lazy to get an I.D. then you should not be voting. If you are hiding something and that is why you don’t want to show an I.D. then you should also not be voting.

        1. jackactionhero says:

          Voting is a right for legal, non-felon citizens. You are wrong.

          1. whatever says:

            Going to a nice restaurant is also a right but I consider it a privilege.

    2. DC says:

      >* If you still write checks, you always need to show an ID.

      A friend went shopping and paid with a check–she didn’t have to show ID.

      >Even if you use a debit or credit card, many places will also ask to see an ID.

      I’ve never been asked to show ID.

      >If you get stopped for any traffic reason, you need to show an ID.

      In 45 years of driving, maybe three times at the most.

      Why do the critics of Governor Dayton and the democrats 9I’m an independent) have to lie so much? And so badly?

      1. hunnybear18 says:

        So just because some clerks aren’t concerned with helping make sure someone doesn’t use your cards or checks fraudulently, this means we shouldn’t make this law. I personally thank a clerk who asks for ID when I write a check or use my bank card.

      2. sick of people's BS says:

        Well DC you are one of the lucky ones, you and your friends because I get asked every time I write a check or use my debit/credit card. Clerks around here are doing their job.

        1. KR says:

          Exactly. Quite honestly, I PREFER that they ask for ID.

  5. Maypole says:

    Governmnet Public Unions are pullng Dayton’s strings just like everything else he does…

    1. DC says:

      And how do the unions benefit on not having Voter ID?

      Do you guys even think before posting?

      1. th says:

        I don’t think that half of these people know what the issues really are that they post about

        1. whatever says:

          but thank goodness to people like you we are all briefed on the subject. Oh wait, nothing you said made anything clearer. Thanks for nothing

  6. bill says:

    Governor goofy is stomping his feet because he knows that with proper voter ID he and senator franken will be out of jobs.

    There’s a reason our representatives went around you governor, now concern your self with something you have a say in, you one term failure!

    1. DC says:

      >with proper voter ID he and senator franken will be out of jobs.

      Where’s the proof?

  7. max says:

    Why aren’t the supporters of this unnecessary amendment talking about what it will cost the state to administer? I thought Conservatives were all about reducing government spending and regulation. Vote fraud is virtually non-existent in Minnesota, so this is like going after an Ant with an elephant gun.

    1. bill says:

      Its well worth the cost to keep the likes of dayton, franken and that criminal enabler ritchie out of office

      1. digger of the truth says:

        @ Brian WOW that was a spear to the gut,,,, how long did it take you to think that onw up

      2. DC says:

        And that is why the GOP wants Voter ID–it isn’t about alleged voter fraud. It is all about disenfranchisng anyone who won’t vote GOP.

    2. Justice for ALL says:

      What cost is that Max?

      Asking the voting judge that already requires the individual voting to sign the voting register to look at an id. That doesn’t seem like an unmanageable expense to me.

      Have to love the spin the crazy lefties put on this issue.

      1. Whatever.... says:

        @Justice. Just looking at the ID will not be enough. The picture IDs will need to be scanned into a system in case there is a recount demand. Those of us who are putting on elections know that the judge’s word that he/she looked at the ID will not satisfy the law. To satisfy a recount, the picture will need to be looked at. Equipment to buy, election judge training, and free IDs are projected to cost Minnesota between $20 and $30 million, and every year the free IDs will need to be repurchased.

    1. DC says:

      That was a feeble attempt at voter fraud. Now try telling us how many actual cases there have been.

      1. whatever says:

        Somebody has been watching MSNBC now haven’t they DC? Maybe you should watch a real news channel, then you will find out how far and deep voter fraud really is.

  8. Comrade Lenin and Chairman Mao says:

    Comrades Dayton and Obama are key players in trying to shape a new world order in Minnesota and America.

    “Someday there will be no more rich and no more poor. Only workers in a workers state.”

    Power to the proletariat!

    Comrade Lenin and Chairman Mao

    1. Brian says:

      Hi you’re stu[id

      1. Comrade Lenin and Chairman Mao says:

        Comrade Brian-

        YOU would have gotten an education when we were in charge!

        Comrade Lenin and Chairman Mao

      2. DC says:

        Agreed. And the GOP wonders why no thinking independent will vote for ANY of their candidates in the next election.

  9. Fred Hayek says:

    Someone voted for US Attorney Eric Holder without any ID. It can be done. Easily.

    1. DC says:

      No vote was cast–it was a sad little attempt.

  10. politicianSUX says:

    “the amendment would cripple Minnesota’s election system by curbing same-day voter registration, absentee balloting and mail-in voting.” What a bunch of B.S. Absentee voting and mail in voting will not be affected and only those that fail to think more than a free bus ride and the promise of a free meal will miss out. Anyone that can not think more than a few days ahead and get the proper ID, do you really want them deciding who our next house member, Senate Member, Governor, or President will be? Really, you are that desperate to change the results of an election that you want to have no integrity in our election system?

  11. Hunter says:

    “Cripple” the MN election system?? Come on man… can come up with something better than that. God help us all.

  12. Ratsmana says:

    Photo ID’s are NOT something radical” Anyone visiting a clinic lab to have blood drawn for diagnotic testing must show a picture ID. Even Seniors!!!
    Even Democrats and Republicans.

  13. Right is so wrong says:

    We will never have a perfect system. No matter how much we spend, or try. This amendment, if passed will cost millions. The last election in 2010, there was only 100 cases of voter fraud. Doesn’t sound like a good way to spend our money.

    1. Elwood says:

      Completely agree with “Right.”

    2. Not a Tea Nut says:

      But the GOP makes you feel like you are being cheated. Don’t worry about being fiscally responsible, It’s ok if they want it.

    3. beegee17 says:

      LOL! Are you serious… only 100 cases of voter fraud? Google…. voter fraud.

      1. Right is so wrong says:

        You don’t need to google it. All you have to do is research Minnesota’s own web site. Secretary of the State stats: only 100.

        1. bill says:

          So whatever Ritchie says goes now?

          My guess is when the voter ID is passed, Ritchie’s reign of corruption will come to an abrupt end .

          1. Right is so wrong says:

            Author of the bill, Rep Mary Kiffmeyer also acknowledge the numbers too. If you want, email her and ask. She said that on WCCO radio either last week, or the week before

            1. Marcus says:

              Drudge Report “White Man Offered Eric Holder’s Ballot”

    4. Brett says:

      I’d rather spend tax dollars to insure that our elections are free, fair, and LEGAL, instesd of allowing all of the FRAUD that’s going on, not just in elections, but WELFARE, people getting $20,000 a year in AIDS medications at taxpayer expense, proposing hundreds of billions for Zigi, etc.

  14. Kelly says:

    Is voting a “right or a priviledge” Drivers license=priviledge. Voting = right ! Now we have to get permission from the gov’t to exercise a right.

    1. bill says:

      Voting is no more a right than my right to firearms.

      Try buying a gun without one.

      In either case a simple State ID will suffice so your argument falls flat on its face

      1. th says:

        You can’t kill anyone with a vote. Get real

    2. beegee17 says:

      And you have to show that Drivers License if you plan on using services. Do you or do not show ID when buying alcohol or tobacco.

      Libturds say Healthcare is a “Right”. Well you show ID to use those services.

      1. DC says:

        >Do you or do not show ID when buying alcohol or tobacco.


    3. dan says:

      Becoming a US citizen is a privledge. You dont have the “right” to vote unless you are a legal US Citizen. What part of this dont you understand Kelly?

    4. whatever says:

      If you don’t have an I.D. to vote I am guessing you also don’t drink, smoke, drive, have a house, rent an apt., use a credit card or debit card, fish, hunt, or even got married. All of these require an I.D. I don’t believe the government is trying to take away a right but are trying to curb fraud and keep illegals and others who should not be voting from voting. Makes sense to me but then again I don’t have anything to hide nor do I get free handouts from the government.

  15. Joel says:

    you need ID to cash a personal check, to prove who you are when you get stopped for a speeding ticket…you need to get over this “I don’t have to if I don’t want to” attitude…

  16. beegee17 says:

    Let’s be honest… the only reason they don’t want Voter ID…. no more double voting, no more dead people voting, etc…

    1. Huh says:

      Please tell us exactly how many times that has occurred here in Minnesota. How many have been prosecuted? How many convictions?

      Or…how many people have gotten away with it?

      How about some numbers to back up these allegations, please?

        1. christine says:

          Voter I.D. would nothing to prevent felons from voting (as your link implies). Felons have I.D.

          1. whatever says:

            Wrong….the I.D. would show they are a felon when entered into the system or looked up when signing to vote in thus they cannot vote.

            1. Whatever.... says:

              @whatever with small “w.” We are not looking up the ID in a system, just scanning the photo into the system and comparing it to the voter in front of the election judge. Try again…

          2. Whatever.... says:

            @Christine. Illegals also have IDs in the form of drivers’ licenses. No drivers’ license or state ID states that a person is a U.S. citizen, either. Only a passport does that.

        2. DC says:

          Why would a felon vote for Franken? Where’s the benefit?

  17. hunnybear18 says:

    Dear Governor Dayton,

    You vetoed this bill one other time despite even the most liberal polls showing that over 60% of Minnesotans supported it. You did it to keep those who helped you to power happy.

    Why are you so afraid of the people having their say? Do you favor a system where you are supreme ruler despite what is in the constitution?

    Now the legislature found a way to bypass the threat of your veto pen which you use to push your own personal agendas, brought it to the people where it belongs, and you lament not being able to take that opportunity away from us?

    1. th says:

      The repubs are the ones that are trying to push their own agendas. They think if they can get this to pass that there won’t be as many people voting for Democrats.

      1. hunnybear18 says:

        How is it pushing their own agenda to make sure that only eligible people vote, and that they vote only once?

        If getting rid of the opportunity for fraud will cut down on Democratic votes, I guess we know who the frauds are voting for, don’t we?

  18. Justice for ALL says:

    I find it very telling that the Democrats are so sure that requiring an individual to very who they are by showing a picture id would only have a negative impact on their voters.

    Doesn’t it make you wonder why they think this?

    1. Knowwhy says:

      Because Democrats are the party that really believes in all constitutional rights; not just the second amendment. Republicans seem to get so caught up in the second amendment (right to bear arms), but they are totally willing to trample over or ignore other constitutional rights. Voting is a constitutional right, unlike cashing checks or driving a car.

      1. whatever says:

        It is a right when you are legal to vote or vote only once. It is when it is abused that things have to change. This is how almost every law gets written or why things change, people abuse the system to benefit themselves thus hurting everyone else. Why are democrats so against it?

  19. djp says:

    I am all for voter ID!!! If you want to register that same day to vote…just bring an ID!!!! Heck…ya have to have ID to write a check…why not to vote???

  20. Brett says:

    How does one issue a “symbolic veto”? Is that written in state law?

    Proof that this governor is a LOON, and his credibility should take a nose dive soon.

  21. Greg says:

    The Unites States worst Governor, formally the countries worst Senator….Mark Dayton….what an idiot!!! You have to show ID for almost everything else. Keep the illegals and dead voting…..The true democrtic way!!!

  22. Brett says:

    If you don’t want to see Minnesota elections turn into the joke of the nation (as if it hasn’t happened already), vote YES in November!!

    1. Schae says:

      Minnesota elections have already turned into a joke–look at the last two elections that put both Franken and Dayton in office!

      1. Death says:

        People did, not the election.

  23. Erik says:

    You need an ID to buy cigarettes and Liquor…. voting doesn’t seem nearly as serious or as important, after all you do lose your right to buy liquor when you’re a convicted felon… oh wait, no you don’t!

    1. DC says:

      Only if you look to young to be buying them.

  24. politicianSUX says:

    Everyone will still be able to register and vote on the day of elections. Only their votes will not count until they are verified. Will it cost more, sure it will, but will it add more integrity to our system, absolutely. Why are Democrats afraid to spend money on adding intergrity to our election system?

  25. really come on man! says:

    Mark Dayton is gay he should come out of the closet everyone in this state could benfit from some truths here..

    If you need an ID to drive or fly you should need one to vote.

  26. Betty says:

    I honestly don’t understand the big deal with a voter ID. I’m VERY troubled by going into the voting booth, present my ID only for them to look the other way and only ask my name. Good grief! We’ve had way too many close elections (wasn’t the Franken-Coleman contest decided by 100 votes or so – AFTER a few recounts showing Coleman as the winner?!) – let’s get some integrity into the system! There’s no logical explanation to be against this – it’s not a party thing, it’s an AMERICAN thing!!

    1. Huh says:

      Why does a close election imply a lack of integrity?

        1. christine says:

          Voter I.D. would NOT prevent felons from voting. Felons have I.D. Next…..

          1. Death says:

            Agreed! GOP ppl just hate to lose though LMAO

          2. dbrand11 says:

            For those of you that are blathering on about convicted felons being able to vote because they have ID’s here’s a thought. Don’t you people think that a felony conviction is going to show up when that ID is processed? If your a felon and you try and buy a gun with your ID, guess what happens, you get flagged and no gun. Same principle here. So stop barking up that tree, it’s just stupid.

            1. DC says:

              All the rant about felons voting is a mind-game. They aren’t telling people that some people who had been convicted of a felony STILL get to vote, others can have their records “cleared” so that they can vote. Not ALL felons are automatically excluded from voting.

    2. th says:

      Coleman didn’t win. What planet are you living on?

  27. chuck says:

    Sorry people, but the purpose of this bill is to make sure that college students can not vote while at school as they have a photo ID, but the address is for their home. They do not get a new address on their license while at school. they have, however, been at the same address for school since September, so are qualified to vote there. Can’t however, because of the wrong address. That makes sure that the liberally brainwashed students ( by the liberal teachers of course) will not be able to keep the Republicans from winning.
    One other small point. Older people who have let their license expire cna use the ole one for an ID at the pharmacy etc, but will not be able to use it at the election site. They can’t vote either.

    1. Comrade Lenin and Chairman Mao says:

      Comrade Chuck-

      We like your ability to take ridiculous ideas and shape them to fit your socialist point of view. We are going to need people like you in our propaganda wing of the coming Minnesota Communist Party as we try and build a new Minnesota based on free everything for everyone.

      The “EVIL and uncaring Republican capitalist pigs” that have not already moved out of Minnesota must be stopped at all costs.

      Power to the people!

      Comrade Lenin and Chairman Mao

    2. hunnybear18 says:

      Technically if you don’t live on-campus, you have no more than 30 days to update your address on your driver’s license after moving. So we shouldn’t have to compensate your choice to break the law.

      You also always have the option of seeking an absentee ballot for your address at home if you wish.

      If your choices to not use any of the two above options mean you can’t vote, sounds like it’s your own poor planning and not the law that would limit you.

      Also, I was just at the doctor with someone who had inadvertantly forgotten to renew their ID. The clinic was not able to accept it, and since it was a routine appointment asked the person to reschedule when they could present valid ID. They have to make sure that the person on the insurance information is the one being seen.

  28. christine says:

    I would vote for the ammendment IF there were voter fraud. Since we’ve had 2 major election recounts in the past few years that haven’t turned up any fraud, I will be VOTING NO. Waste of time, waste of money.

    1. Umpire says:

      Come on now honey. If this allegation is even partially accurate- Is this not voter fraud? NEXT-


      Voter I.D. would NOT prevent felons from voting. Felons have I.D. Next…..

      Because convicted felons voted and helped Franken.

      1. DC says:

        Why would a felon vote for Franken? Where’s the benefit?

        Where’s the proof that voter fraud took place? Christine is right on the money–waste of time and taxpayer money.

        1. Whatever.... says:

          Absolutely! Plus, this law will be challenged in court and most probably never go into effect like in Texas, Wisconsin, South Carolina.

  29. Fred Hayek says:

    Can you buy a gun without a photo ID ?

    1. Death says:

      Yes, go to any gun show & purchase from a private party!

  30. Just sayin' says:

    Dear in the head lights Dayton appears to be starting his re-election campaign early.

    1. Just sayin' says:

      I know, “DEER”

      1. Enough says:

        If I remember correctly the last time our state voted this clown into office for his second term he quit and went home because he cound’nt have his way. Please do not let him embarrass our state like that again and and vote him back in.

  31. dbrand11 says:

    How can you prove election fraud when there is practically no way to identify it. Hey if I don’t have to verify I’m eligible to vote, why should I have to prove I’m eligible to buy alcohol. Or open a bank account. Or finance a new car. There is no sensible reason not to have it. Seriously, anybody that doesn’t want to identify themselves properly has a reason they don’t want to be identified.

  32. Voter supression says:

    Handful of felons with bad info on their voting status is all that has been found in MN. However, with this “Constitutional Amendment” – not a law – an expired license will void you from voting. As mentioned, students with valid license ID’s for most everything else are not allowed to vote.

    Same-day registration – MN has roughly 500,000 per election – will now be done by provisional ballot – new to MN. Average across U.S. is that 82% of provisional ballots are NEVER COUNTED. That’s about 400,000 votes in MN that WILL NOT BE COUNTED. Why? Ballots are left for a 10-day period. By that time a winner is declared and other candidates have conceded. Maybe that 400,000 votes may have made a difference on voting day – but this amendment essentially throws them out.

    How many verified problems have been found???

    1. Whatever.... says:

      @Voter suppression. I have to report township election results within 3 days of the election. These provisional ballots will cause a mess, and you are absolutely right, most will probably never be counted. Plus, how do you maintain a legal chain of custody. A nightmare…

  33. Jeff says:

    ah…nothing like a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. The ACLU (whether you like them or hate them isn’t pertinent here) offered $100k to any group that could show that voter fraud has occurred in MN. One case was forwarded to them, and that case wasn’t even actual fraud as it was dismissed…What people don’t realize is that while registration fraud has occurred, voter fraud has not. Processes already exist behind the scenes to determine what votes are legal and which ones are not. Registration does not equal a counted vote unless the vote is verified after the fact. In MN, we have a spectacular group of civil servants and election officials who verify the results before signing off on them. But, as this all occurs behind the scenes, most people are not aware of it and therefore can easily be fear mongered into believing tht fraud can somehow easily occur in MN.

    The issue that is being ignored pertains to nursing home residents and military service members who vote absentee but will no longer be able to as the proposed ID system literally would render those systems illlegal. Additionally, since when has it been the responsibility of the citizen to prove their status? The burden rests with the government regarding voting, regarding convictions for crimes, the list goes on. If someone doesn’t have an ID, that somehow means they aren’t a citizen? for uppper-class and middle class people, that seems logical, but not in the real world outside of the sheltered existence that many of us live in.

    1. Openwater says:

      Get a clue Jeff; of course it has occurred! Anyone can vote at any place, multiple times! It is very naive to think that people aren’t doing this. I don’t care who they vote for; I’m sure it’s happened on all sides. There has got to be some checks and balances in place. You shouldn’t have to prove there was fraud to close a loophole.

      1. DC says:

        Then show us a concrete example where it has actually happened. Not some idiot trying to game the system to the camera.

      2. Whatever.... says:

        Really, what you are saying, Openwater, is that our election judges are incompetent or they would be reporting all this “fraud” that exists. The fraud doesn’t exist, and our judges are not incompetent.

  34. Jerry says:

    This amendment is being pushed by ALEC. That is reason enough to fear it. This sounds fine on the surface, but the devil is in the details. Read the fine print and know more about the source.

    1. DC says:

      Already posted–ONE sad feeble attempt. Note that it takes the right-dingers to come up with these shenanigans. Where were they when the alleged felons voted?

  35. Sandi says:

    I can’t help but notice that the big mouth I spurned a month or so ago has nothing better to do but use multiple names to continue criticizing, bullying, and shooting his ultra large mouth off at everyone he disagrees with.

    Again, big boy, the only department you’re “big” in is your anonymous rants. I’ll say it again: if you had the ability to attract some female companionship you might learn what it’s like to have something else to do. But we both know that’ll never happen, don’t we?


  36. DC says:

    The GOP wants “voter purity.” Too bad they aren’t in favor of “food purity” and stop allowing rodent droppings or salmonella tainted eggs into a our food supply, or tainted pet food–but, that is business as usual–let the buyer beware! There’s money to be made!

  37. Openwater says:

    This is a true story for those who believe that voter fraud isn’t happening. My friend went to vote but because she wasn’t registered she needed something to prove her address for the district. Her ID said a different city since she had just moved and she didn’t have any utility bills with her new address on them since she had just moved. But while there, she recognized her 2nd grade teacher who vouched for her. My friend is 32 years old. That means this person vouched for her even though she hadn’t seen her in about 23 years. If that’s all it takes to register to vote, then our system is seriously flawed. I’m glad she got to vote because I know she’s legit, but how many people are taking advantage of this. There’s a lot of political fanatics out there on both sides, and it’s just best to close that door.

    1. Right is so wrong says:

      How many people involved in voter fraud? Stats from the Secretary of the State of Minnesota, 100 in 2010 election. Yet this bill will cost the state of Minnesota millions if passed. Remember, the election is Nov 6 this year. Meaning there will be people that have just moved. They should not be disenfranchised

      1. Openwater says:

        It doesn’t matter what’s been proven or not. Loopholes are taken advantage of and everyone knows it. If you don’t think they are, then why are you opposed to the id. And just because an ID is required, doesn’t mean people who have just moved won’t be able to vote. The amendment isn’t prohibiting anyone from showing they just moved, it’s just to show that you are who you are instead of allowing some other voter to vouch for you. Again, it is really naive to think that people aren’t going to multiple districts to vote. And how will this cost anything? It doesn’t cost anything to show the cashier my id when I pay for gas.

  38. Maggie says:

    Why is it Mark Dayton is on the wrong side of this issue ??? What don’t we know about him and the Democrats ???? How hard is it to get an ID .A person needs ID for so many things and if it cuts down on voter fraud of either party in only makes sense.

    1. WorkingMN says:

      Because Mark Dayton is working with the SEIU to get THEIR agenda passed–like the failed union election for state home daycare providers.

  39. WorkingMN says:

    The only reason you wouldn’t want folks to show ID to vote is so the system can be defrauded. I have to show ID to buy ammo, liquor, hunting license or even use my credit card..

    1. DJC says:

      I can see the 1st three, but I’ve never been asked to show my DL to use my credit card.

  40. Fredrick says:

    Voter Id is going to cost money, as a taxpayer I have to pay for people who need an Id, and don’t have a drivers license. This is just added cost for foolishness, what’s wrong with the Republican party, all of a sudden they have become big spenders!! Maybe they have always been big spenders!! I just find this wholel thing to be stupid!!

    1. Openwater says:

      If you suspected republicans of voting multiple times or voters who weren’t citizens voting republican, you would feel differently I’m sure. This is fair for everyone; both sides. You know it’s fair, so your only argument now is the cost. You don’t even know what it’s going to cost. It’s like people are arguing just because it’s republican backed. If it were backed by democrats you wouldn’t care about the supposed cost. When will people quit caring about political parties and look at what is common sense.

      1. Whatever.... says:

        The costs have been reported many times–about $20 to $30 million to start and milllions more each year to keep providing free IDs. And then all the costs of the lawsuits the minute this amendment gets passed.

        1. bored with B.S. says:

          Compared to how many millions we dish out to support illegals to get all the benefits of an American citizen without contributing a dime in taxes? How about you show that cost and see which one is less. Everybody knows thats why the democrats don’t want it, they will lose a big part of their voters.

          1. DJC says:

            Got poof that illegals vote?

  41. pizzedoff says:

    Voter ID rocks! Trouble is, the lawless progressives will just come in with fraudulent IDs. It’s nothing new.

    1. DC says:

      And the GOP wonders why no thinking independent will vote for ANY of their candidates in the upcoming election?!?

  42. Jason says:

    Dayton. ill vote no if you vote no on the vikings stadium. You thief. Ok, i will still vote yes on voter id.

    1. DC says:

      Like you intended to all along.

  43. Johnny says:

    This ammendment is going to be voted by the current rules. If there is so much
    voter fraud going on, how do you expect this to pass? Every illegal allien and homeless person will be voting no on the question. If this does pass it will never survive the court challenges.

    1. DC says:

      GREAT POINT! Watch them try to lie their way out of that one!

    2. DJC says:

      Don’t forget the felons!

  44. Swede in Minnesota says:

    I don’t understand why there is an issue with providing and ID when voting. It is so easy to obtain an ID and why don’t people want to carry one. If you were in an accident unable to talk and alone, how do police know who you are and who to contact. One state down south came to peoples home to provide ID’s if a person was not able to get out and they were free. If you can’t get out to get an ID, how do you get out to vote (absentee only) or don’t you vote? Voter fraud? Someone mentioned, how do you know there is voter fraud? I ask that person how do you know there is not? In this day and age, unfortunately there is so much crime and fraud why don’t we want to do everything we can to prevent it. One person said he has never been asked for ID when wriiting a check or using a credit or debit card. He must be one of the 1%, because I have been asked mostly in small shops throughout this country. I have no problem with providing it and why should I. I appreciate the comment about it being a priviledge to vote and not a right—great point. You people complain about the voter ID issue—go to Sweden and get pulled over in one of their random sobriety checks. No choice if you are a driver–they check your breath for alcohol and you better be sober or else.

    1. DC says:

      >ch crime and fraud why don’t we want to do everything we can to prevent it. One person said he has never been asked for ID when wriiting a check or using a credit or debit card. He must be one of the 1%, because I have been asked mostly in small shops throughout this country.

      The key is “small shops throughout this country”–i.e. out-of-towner and in small shops.

  45. Sam says:

    Gee Whiz! They have plenty of time between now & then to get an ID….. Stop enabling lazy voters. They can get off their duffs & be a responsible citizen!

  46. Barney says:

    So most of you people are saying that all you need to do is go get an ID and it is as simple as that. How is that going to stop fraud. What you are saying that I could go in and I can say my name is John Doe and I live at 123 Main Street. What most of you dont know is what is going to be required to get an ID unless it will be as simple as you say. I also know how easy it was to get a fake ID so I could buy beer and tobacco when I was in high school

  47. Fred Hayek says:

    Democrats are against voter ID for a reason.

    1. DC says:

      And every reason the GOP comes up with to be for it turns out to be bogus.

  48. MAR says:

    It is very clear why the Democrats don’t want to do anything that gets in the way of voter fraud and the whole ACORN mess. I got news for you, it’s about time that this State and Country get back to the basics. If you live here, you speak ENGLISH. If you want to Live here you WORK. If you want to vote, you PROVE that you are eligible.


    1. DJC says:

      Basics are JOBS! Where are they with this bill?!?

      FYI, most immigrants didn’t speak English till the 3rd or 4th generation.

  49. wendy says:

    Everyone has their talking points down. Good job.

    I am voting no on ALL amendments.

    Until the 2 parties stop bickering, I will not support either.

    Voting NO does NOT let gays get married, keeps the status quo. They can’t already.

    And for voter ID, voting no does NOT mean that it will never become law, it needs to be well crafted first.

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