By Jennifer Mayerle

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — The Minnesota State Patrol has released transcripts for the 911 calls made after the shooting of a bus driver on I-35W in Minneapolis, including from the suspected shooter.

Thirty-one-year-old Kenneth Lilly is charged with second-degree attempted murder and second-degree assault with a dangerous weapon in connection to the Feb. 5 incident. He’s accused of shooting a bus driver multiple times after a traffic collision.

On Wednesday, the state patrol released 911 transcripts from a witness and the suspected shooter, Lilly.

Related: Lilly Charged With Attempted Murder In I-35W Bus Driver Shooting

In one of the transcripts, a witness driving by the scene reported the shooting.

“There was a … school bus, like a small school bus and a car that were just involved in an accident. It looked like the bus was refusing to pull over. The driver of the other car got out wearing what looked like possibly some sort of security uniform and I’m pretty sure he just fired multiple shots into the ground from a pistol,” the caller said.

The witness says the driver of the Toyota Camry, later identified as Lilly, “pulled forward and then he cut off the bus.”

“The guy in the security outfit is trying to get on the bus and the bus driver, it looked like the bus driver was not going to let him on the bus. And then as I passed I heard, what I’m pretty confident is multiple gunshots,” the caller said.

Kenneth Lilly surrenders to a Minnesota State Patrol trooper (credit: CBS)

The other transcript was from Lilly. He told dispatch that he was in an accident with the bus driver and then tried to get information.

“I had an accident with a bus driver. I got out, I tried to get his information. He tried to drive past me, nearly ran me over and then a self-defense incident occurred because he tried to run me over. So shots have been fired,” Lilly said.

Lilly said he was “a little shaken” because he was nearly run over by a bus. When asked if there was anyone on the bus, Lilly said “I don’t think so. I think he’s just driving by himself. Some old guy.” Lilly then tells dispatch that his gun is in its holster on his person.

Defense attorney Eric Nelson who is not involved in the case said the transcript provides evidence that could be used in support of a self-defense claim.

“What he’s saying in this transcript is the bus driver was trying to run him over and he had to shoot in self-defense because he was in fear he was going to be killed or seriously hurt,” Nelson said.

At one point in the video, you see the bus move forward. Nelson said the bus driver’s actions may not be an issue. Self defense boils down to what Lilly reasonably thought was happening. In his 911 call, Lilly mentions being nearly run over four times.

“It is limited to it has to be a reasonable use of force, to be a reasonable perception that you were going to be attacked or some offense was going to be committed upon you. He has a duty to retreat, you can only use self-defense if you have honored the duty to retreat,” Nelson said.

The criminal complaint charging Lilly with second-degree assault and attempted murder says video footage shows Lilly “retreating to a safe spot before walking back in front of the bus to commence shooting.”

Lilly’s next court appearance is set for March 8 at 9 a.m.

Jennifer Mayerle

Comments (3)
  1. Virgil Anders says:

    Talk about a scripted 911 call, not born out by the video. Per the three concealed carry instructors I have had, this should have never happened. Is he back to commuting as an armed security guard?

  2. Bill Cenne says:

    Lilly thinks he’s going to get away with this, but he’s got another think coming. He’s already been tried in the court of public opinion, and he’s guilty as sin. School shootings are the scourge of our society and a “school” bus is the same as a “school” building, If someone walks towards them with a gun, they need to be dealt with with extreme prejudice. The bus driver should have run him down like a squirrel in rush hour traffic to protect the student(s) lives. . “I’ would have……….

  3. Bill Cenne says:

    All you amateur Perry Mason’s out there can get lost. You don’t need to worry about self defense if you get the license number and get on the phone when you get home. Lilly’s going to prison forever because of a little scratch on his car. IDIOT ! ! !