Protests Grip Hudson, Wis., For A Third Week

By Rachel Slavik, WCCO-TV

HUDSON, Wis. (WCCO) – Supporters of Gov. Scott Walker made the case for the governor’s budget bill with a 10-city bus tour around Wisconsin.

Hundreds of union supporters, who are against the bill to end collective bargaining, greeted the bus Sunday with a protest.

Their message hasn’t changed since the first protest nearly three weeks ago.

“We need to fix the budget, but not on the backs of the working poor,” said Eunice Beauchman, a union supporter.

Union supporters are putting words to action.

“It’s our right in democracy to petition for relief and one of the ways we do that is to petition for a recall,” said Celeste Koeberl, a union supporter.

A recall petition for Republican state Sen. Sheila Harsdorf circulated through a crowd of hundreds.

“Everybody here wants to see her out of office if she’s not going to show the kind of leadership we expect from her,” said Mark Kearns, a Wisconsin teacher.

Harsdorf stood only a few feet away.

“That’s part of the process. That’s something they feel strongly about,” Harsdorf said.

She was surrounded by more than 100 of her supporters at a hotel, and recall was the last thing on their minds.

“Being in government, being an elected official, you stand up for what you believe is right,” Harsdorf said.

Union supporters will need to collect around 15,000 signatures to for a recall election.

Protesters have talked about recalling Walker, but voters can’t start that process until he’s been in office a year.

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  1. SteelWorker says:

    Tommytake your lazy ass back to school and get a degree or trade profession if your not making enough!

    1. HowItIs says:

      These people are NOT fighting for workers rights. They are fighting for the status quo of ripping off the tax payers through extortion.

      1. How Aout Them Apples says:

        Remember that when you buy your Packers Tickets.

  2. paul says:

    Tommy — You’re unhappy because teachers make more than you do? That $6/hour job at Dairy Queen must really suck. If you count up all the hours that teachers prepare for school, spend in school teaching, spend after school talking to parents and attending events, it’s probably just double what you’re making at DQ. Are you unhappy simply because teachers make more than you do slinging ice cream into cones? That’s kind of sad, Tommy.

    1. HowItIs says:

      Most teachers work a 9 month contract and get paid a 12 month salary and have set work hours. They are protected by a corrupt union that allows the to perform poorly, but keep their jobs and still get raises. Most teachers do not spend extra time preparing, many teachers hand out worksheets and have the students come to them to get help. Yes, the first couple of years may require some prep, but they teach the same thing, the same way for 40 years.

      1. KristinH says:

        That is simply not true. If teachers want to collect a paycheck year-round, they have to ask that their salary be divided up into 12 month increments. They do not get more from teaching. The only way their salary would increase is if they got a second job. Teachers are also required to attend workshops and further their education before they can make a lane change or to you a – get a pay increase. Do your homework before you make rabid comments. This is an exact sample of why teachers, a service industry filled with subjective opinions, needs unionization.

    2. hudsonprotestersgoaway says:

      i dont think its a matter of who makes more money!! Its a matter of YOU / Teachers having to pay a bit for insur. and retirement. No big deal .. RIGHT! We all do it! Shut up and grow up you pansy arse! Sick of seeing the Hudson protesters. I hope the union is no more!!

  3. John Smith says:

    The fact is there are now $3.5 trillion dollars in unsecured union pensions out there now for both teachers and the public gov’t workers. I guess its business as usual for those that think they are above all else and the rest of the world. The promises that were made over the years that were not pay raises but future benefits have finally come home to roost. These promises were a made as a trade to get the vote from those people. Wisconsin it only the tip of the iceberg. Every other state is going to follow suit here to get the costs down and eliminate the black hole they have been dumping money into for years.

    1. tiredandretired says:

      Wisconsin’s public pension fund is in good shape. Other states funds would be too, but their governors raided them, or their legislatures did not put in the contributions that they promised. If Wisconsin leaves their public pension fund alone, this will not be a problem for its citizens.

  4. Scottyboy says:

    And they thought we were fools for electing Jesse!

  5. mary says:

    There is a school teacher in Wisconsin Rapids teaching kindergarden, 12 years exp., masters. Her pay is 66000 annually and over 31,000 in benefits. She has a teachers aide that makes 12.00 an hour, plus benefits. So our children should be Einsteins at that rate. Oh and she has 24 students.

    1. anonymous says:

      @ mary. First of all they do deserve the benefits because most teachers work their buts off to help kids and get all of their work done. You can argue that they have the summer off, but most teachers work from about 7 in the morning until 5 6 or 7 at night. I know one teacher that will stay until midnight some nights and even came in during winter break last year. Secondly, it is not the teachers fault if kids are not genius’s.

      1. Julie says:

        gee anonymous…
        your complaining about the teachers hours??? That’s a typical work day for most people…

      2. anonymous says:

        @ Julie. No I’m not complaining about their hours but I’m saying that the people that say that teaching is a part time job are wrong because they work their butts off for kids education.

    2. Kris says:

      The 66,000 I don’t have a problem with considering the fact she has a Masters. I would however like to know what makes up 31,000 in bennefits over a years time.

    3. Annoyed says:

      @ Mary: And exactly where did you get these “statistics?”

    4. dmc says:

      Since average beni’s that most use when computing labor costs are 17% of Salary – your math is a little off. you must have been homeschooled.

      1. dukethefool says:

        No reason to disrespect the home schooled. Every demographic has its fools and scholars.

  6. Tommwy says:

    Sorry people. This issue is not about me. I am a former union member with collective bargaining but I am not a teacher! I am a taxpayer! These greed-bags earn more then twice was much as the private sector worker in our community. Now they are demanding the private sector worker pay more of their benefits so they can continue to live on easy street. And they run around whining and crying all the time proclaiming the sky is falling. They buy our politicians. They are greedy! They are deceiving us all. They are liars. They are pathetic!

    1. Shelkey says:

      Not quite. 59% of public sector workers have AT LEAST a 4 year degree compared to 30% of the private sector. You can’t really compare a retail worker with a high school diploma to someone with a college degree and skills. It’s apples & oranges Tommwy. If you wanted to do a little research, you’d find that public sector pay for comparable private sector jobs earn less in money and sometimes in benefits as well. But it’s difficult to compare anyway since the public jobs require more education.

    2. Annoyed says:

      So, do you personally know public employees, or do you like pulling “statistics” out of places unknown? My husband is a public union employee and he does not make “twice as much as the private sector”. We definitely do not “live on easy street.” I am wondering where you get this information?? Why don’t you do a little research on a subject you obviously know nothing about?

    3. dmc says:

      I worked in the private sector for many years and took a SIGNIFICANT cut in pay to return to teach – because the silly paper pushing that I was doing – did not provide value to anything but some mega millionares bottom line.

      After 10 years – with a MS + I am only now even close to what I made in the private sector and I’ll tell you I work a darn side harder.

      You – who have bought the party line are being duped – what will you do when the only jobs are the $6.00 an hour jobs – they will still dangle the american dream – that 1% of the population will be laughing all the way to the bank that you have been convinced to support their lavish lifestyle to the detrement of the common man and woman in America.

      Mindless sheep those who follow the Republicans who are hell bent on bringing back the excesses of finance that got us here in the first place.

  7. K Smith says:

    To all those who think the union workers make too much. They don’t make too much, it’s the private workers who make too little for the work they do. You are being kept poor by the ” Man” who wants to do the same to the same to union workers. Do you see the CEO’s taking cuts? No way, their golden parachutes just keep getting bigger.

    1. Tommy says:

      You may be onto something there. But pray tell, now is not the time to fix that!

      1. tiredandretired says:

        Attacking teachers won’t make your situation any better, though.

    2. Kris says:

      This is a very true statement. There are a lot of greedy employers out there lining their pockets with the hard work and sweat of their employees. I know of some employers that are billionaires paying their employess 10.00 to 12.00 per hour with terrible if any bennefits, some even less.

  8. Tommy says:

    Go to the DataMine website for your local Wisconsin teacher’s pay. Don’t forget to add on their benefit package and make sure the teachers you are checking on are full-time employees as many of them are not. But most importantly, make sure you calculate their hourly earnings based on a nine month work schedule as opposed to a 12 month schedule for the rest of us. The average teacher in Wisconsin earns more then $50.00/hour with their wage and benefits calculated under these guidelines. Don’t believe them if they tell you anything else. They cannot be trusted with our money or with our kids!

    1. Annoyed says:

      This is the most closed minded statement I’ve read all day! Wow! Are you jealous you didn’t become a teacher??? Sounds like it!

      1. Tommy says:

        Let me guess. You are either a teacher or married to one. Let me be more specific: You are either a public school teacher in Wisconsin or married to a public school teacher in Wisconsin! It is what it is! You cannot change that with lies. God forbid that someone should bring up facts in a debate. SOORRRY for that!

      2. Lori says:

        I agree. I suggest all these people who think teachers have it made and they dont, should go back to school and become teachers and see what its really all about. People treat Day Care Providers with the same lack of respect. We all do the jobs we do, and society works as a team. This is all about dividing the Middle Class and dumbing down America. No appreciates anyone anymore. How Wickedly Sad we have become.

      3. Getridofthemteachers says:

        Well, the teachers in Wisconsin are NOT all that caring and into the children!! Give me a break and why does the High school have a counselor for every grade?? Waste of money right there!! Start getting rid of them extra’s and fire those who skipped out to protest. Our children come first. Put your big panties on and deal with sign of the times. Pay your own way a wee bit more. You can handle that cant you. Stop being selfish!! Im so sick of seeing you all protest! Do something more constructive. Friggen babies

    2. paul says:

      Actually, Tommy’s numbers seems on target. I teach English and mathematics in MN, have for twenty-two years, and have a masters. 185-day contract with 85,000 in pay and benefits. During the school year, I average 10 hours a day (because I work on un-paid holidays–I’m not contracted for holidays–and weekends correcting). So that works out for 45.95 an hour. So here’s a different slant on this whole argument–it turns out I think I’m worth $45.95 an hour. I create and deliver curriculum to a diverse audience, show up each day with a good attitude, can never slack off on a single day, and can teach geometry, algebra, speaking skills, writing skills, reading skills, literary analysis skills, research skills, and a few others. I don’t think I’m worth $100 an hour, but I do think I’m worth $50. So there.

      1. the crux of the biscuit says:

        You are worth that. Every cent. Thank you for your dedication to trying to teach children, it is not an easy job. The Tommy’s of the world should vote with their feet and go live where things are done the way they like. Texas comes to mind. They think teachers should get paid $5 per hour with no benefits or something. If he want his kids to grow up dumb as a rock, move them down south to Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, lots of ‘cheap’ edjakation dowen they’re….

      2. Stupidteachers says:

        LOL your a little much!! NO Way is a teacher worth 50 bucks per hour. Ya’ll need to sit down, sut up and let the gov do his job. You whine to much! Deal with it and pay your own way a bit more. We all do it

  9. Jill says:

    Teachers can opt for a deferred payment. They pay 100% of their pension. The taxpayers pay if the person lives longer than projected in the contract, which is a legislative issue. Teachers are also taxpayers meaning they also pay their own wage in many aspects not to mention the fact that they help pay for private sector employer and employee benefits/wages by buying their products. Too many private sector people are stumped because they are getting hosed by employers who have gigantic egos and want their cake and eat it too. Walker and many other CEO generals want to squash any competition whether it’s private of public, so they can reign supreme and puppet any and all things of a capitalist venture. Open your eyes.

    1. Tommy says:

      A little bit of the truth with a lot of PR, aka propaganda! Teachers pay a small portion of their wage and benefit packages via income and property taxes they pay. All of their wage and benefit monies originate from all of the taxpayers.

      1. tiredandretired says:

        Using that logic, they and the rest of the public also pay for your income and benefits. They pay for the services and/or products that your employer sells. Your part in the production and/or delivery of those are provided by the customers. The truth is that private and public sector employees support each other. If public sector workers are forced to take cuts of hundreds of dollars per month, you will see local economies lose many private sector jobs. Small business owners have figured this out and many are now against Walker’s proposal because of it.

      2. Hmmm says:

        Everybody picks on the teachers hours and pay… Has anybody totaled the politicians hours or what there compensation turns out to be after all their benefits and reimbursements.. Where are their cut backs? Funny how their pay hasn’t been brought to topic

  10. Frank says:

    Even before the current controversy, Sheila Harsdorf is the most unresponsive legislator going in Wisconsin. Unless the correspondent is personal friend. Harsdorf responds to no one–Democrat or Republican. She is an empty stuffed blouse who needs to go. There’s not one positive innovation in all of Pierce or St. Croix Couniesiesshe can lay claim to.

  11. J Dav says:

    I am not a teacher but think this add a bit of perspective

    Read …..IMPORTANT

    Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do – babysit!

    We can get that for less than minimum wage.

    That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan– that equals 6 1/2 hours).

    Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.

    However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

    LET’S SEE….

    That’s $585 X 180= $105,300

    per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

    What about those special teachers and the ones with Master’s degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an

    hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.

    Wait a minute — there’s

    something wrong here! There sure is!

    The average teacher’s salary

    (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days

    = $277.77/per day/30

    students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student–a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!

    Make a teacher smile; repost this to show appreciation for all educators.

    1. Becky says:

      Sounds like you only picked what you liked about the film – waiting for superman. did you watch the rest of the film or just left it out because you dont want to embarass bad teachers?

    2. How About Them Apples says:

      You’ll save a lot more money in a lot less time if you figure out how much Green Bay Packer football players make per game.

  12. Gambrinus says:

    The endgame is balancing a projected $3.8B projected State budget deficit within two years. Gov. Walker made a tactical error by going after the unions. Even after a recall election, Wisconsin will beed $3.6B in new taxes or spending cuts. That works out to about $1,600 per adult couple.“We need to fix the budget” said union protester Eunice Beauchman in this article but if Eugene had no suggestions of how that was to be accomplished, she may as well have stayed home.

    1. the crux of the biscuit says:

      Why must people that make little ne asked to pay when millionairs and billionaires get by so cheaply? They make the most money, they pay the most taxes. Only seems fair. Raise their tax rates until they start to kill themselves. Then back it down a percent or two……..

      P.S. I pay SS tax on 100% of my income, the obscenely rich should too, that solves the SS funding issue right there…..

      1. mark from mntaxwaste.com says:

        @CRUXIE Everyone pays 100% for SS

      2. the crux of the biscuit says:

        Mark – Realy? People that make over 110,000 pay ss on the portion over 110,000? You are a liar.

  13. Honest says:

    Just fire all over overpaid public employees and hire from scrtch.

    1. mark from mntaxwaste.com says:

      WELL SAID

    2. KristinH says:

      So you would like to go with people who are inexperienced, possibly immature, unsure of what to do-where to go-how to get it done, don’t know anybody so they can’t ask for favors on your behalf and so on?

    3. PSS says:

      Honest please wakeup and have a cup of coffee and think before you speak . the public employee’s are not the problem !! and think about this, if you fire all of the public employees who the HELL is going to train all of these new employees ? Hopefully NOT you because it would be the BLIND LEADING THE BLIND !!

  14. dmc says:

    You know if I make money I buy things – If I buy things – people who make things have jobs. If people who make things have jobs – they can buy things.

    If Iyou take away my money, I don’t buy things – the people who make things loose their jobs and they can’t buy anything. Pretty soon we are back stagnant again.

    I don’t see how diminishing one group elevates any of us.

    1. Paul Schultheis says:

      You obviously don’t know anything about macro economics.

  15. TIM says:

    I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THE TEACHERS, THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO SECURE A FUTURE FOR YOUR CHILDREN. ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT MONEY. I DON’T KNOW ABOUT ANY ONE ELSE BUT MY CHILDRENS FUTURE IS PRICELESS

  16. BOB says:

    Hay wake up! All you people out there look at the real picture, It’s all about keeping the small guy down, it’s only the beginning there taking our rights away, it will not stop there, just public workers loseing there rights. it will continuie, they will come to each and every one off us and say pay cut or no job. WHY do we always not see the whole picture we give money away like drinkin sailors to everybody else but we do not take care of our own. did walker take a cut in pay how about the rest of them NO IF THIS KEEPS UP THERE WILL BE TWO CLASSES OF PEOPLE JUST LIKE CHINA it’s just the start WAKE UP PLEASE

  17. Becky says:

    Instead of arguing, watch the film – “waiting for superman”

    this film exposes the trouble with our public education system.

  18. Jon says:

    TIM ,you got it, when it comes to GOP, money seems to be their only concern,or taking peoples rights away! If it comes to backing unions or politicians, I’ll go with the teachers,police, firefighters,etc.any day!

  19. America says:

    I was inside the meeting room in the hotel. There was not 100 people there let alone over 100. What i did notice as I stood and listen to the speakers was how the “crowd” was fully of “workers”. I find ironic that these Walker supporters support policies that will lower wages, less safe work environments, and longer work hours.
    I didn’t see anyone there that looked like they made 500,000 plus a year..yet they support Walker’s policies that only benefit the top 1%.

    1. the crux of the biscuit says:

      So? There are stupid people that vote against their own best interests in this world. You saw some. Same people that think Limpbaugh and Dreck er Beck tell the truth. Stupid fools that would vote to be stuck in the eye with a sharp stick if Rush says so…..

  20. Protesters have worn out their welcome says:

    If the protesters worked as hard as they protest, they’d be rich!

    1. Blah says:

      blah blah blah blah

      Its called standing up for your rights. Get back to your trailer… I think your mama has some of her 40 oz’er left…

  21. jjr says:

    with high unemployment rates and employers paying lower wages in the private sector,where does the money come from to pay all of these public employees not to mention all of the needed and earned benefits. I FORGOT THE DEPRESSION IS OVER.

  22. Allah says:

    Why are they all white people???? And why are they not working somewhere????

    1. Calamity Aim says:

      Are you blind? or was the black girl with the megaphone just a figure of my imagination?

      This day was a saturday. People can relax or protest or work …

      1. Allah says:

        Oops sorry I missed the “1” black person at the protest…..

  23. Jashua says:

    And where are the democratic legislators that have been in poower for the past 20 years that created this mess?

  24. Paul Schultheis says:

    Watched M.B. on Meet The Press. Not at all surprised that she never answered a single question but responded by giving speeches. Please 6th district elect her to a state office position. That way only the citizens of Minn. will be harmed.

    1. PSS says:

      lets put MB and SW in a room and see which one bores the other one to DEATH first !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there both IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. Jasua Tree says:

    interesting, all comments about this mess being created by the deomcrats and now they are refusing to be a part of the solution keep getting deleted. Now why would that be?

    1. Smithers says:

      1. Deomcrats is actually spelled Democrats.

      2. Democrats are the ones responsible for solving problems created from Republicans.

      Guess you never finished high school… There probably is time for you to finish a GED though. Mcdonalds always hires people lie you…

  26. Bruce says:

    The comments made against teacher’s salaries, police salaries, and firefighter’s salaries are no doubt made by folks who did poorly in school and now hold a job which pays very little. So, rather than look in the mirror to see where the problem really lies, they want to tear these professions down.
    Some of the “facts” these folks put out there, are about as ridiculous as “facts” I might expound upon relating to what a doctor makes and what their working conditions are. I know nothing about these, just as these idiots know nothing about what a teacher’s working conditions are, or a police officer’s, (Oh, I forgot, they know everything about an officer’s job from watching TV), or that of a firefighter.

    1. helper says:

      Exactly Bruce!

      Remember republicans are the same people who brought you George W Bush

      TWICE! And they’d do it again out of stupidity and ignorance!

      1. Steve says:

        Helper….the Nation voted Bush in twice…so I guess the entire Nation is stupid and ignorant…..well everyone but you…..

    2. helper says:

      Oh Stevie how naive you are… Bushie won by a slim margin in 2000. People in the US are stupid. They are called conservatives, republicans and religious freaks!

      And actually Gore had more of the vote in 04… Florida fraud caused Bush to win.

      You’re so silly…

      1. Victim Du Jour says:

        Democrats used a few appointed Judges to make up rules out of thin air without the Legislative branch in Florida.

        And the media reported Gore as the winner an hour before the polls closed in the pan handle.

        Democrats are corrupt on many levels.

  27. Rambo says:

    Rambo to Gov Walker…let it go!

  28. Allah Is Coming To Town says:

    Allah to Gov Walker….reload and adjust your sights…..and remember…my dog used to be a serious conservitive……I got him spayed….now he is a Liberal…..you know ball less and always digging into other peoples pockets…..

    1. helper says:

      Yeah I agree all republicans and conservatives should be neutered and spayed…

      1. Victim Du Jour says:

        Nazis did the same exact thing to dissenters.

  29. jjr says:

    who the FICK is lahlla

  30. jjr says:

    with all the finger pointing going on,why doesnt anyone bring up the northamerican free trade agreement.aka NAFTA and bill clinton deregulating the banking industry which allowed all of the BullS. loans that pretty much led to the depression we are in now.

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