Dolan Endorses Ban On High-Capacity Gun Clips

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Minneapolis Police Chief Tim Dolan spoke out Friday in support of federal legislation that would ban ammunition magazines that hold a large number of bullets.

The high-capacity magazines have been used in mass shootings, including the recent Tucson, Ariz., shooting that left six dead and 13 injured. In that incident, authorities say suspect Jared Loughner was carrying extended magazines that hold 30 rounds of ammunition.

“Law enforcement should not be outgunned by criminals: it’s just common sense,” Dolan said Friday in a prepared statement.

If passed, the ban would prohibit the sale or transfer of any magazine that holds more than 10 rounds. It would be legal to keep magazines bought before the ban’s start date.

Dolan is the first police chief in the Midwest to publicly support the ban, which was endorsed earlier by Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck, the Major Cities Chiefs Association, and other law enforcement, city officials and groups against gun violence, according to the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City.

Dolan said the ban would make streets safer and protect police. He called on Congress to pass the bill authored by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., whose husband was killed and son seriously wounded in a 1993 shooting.

High-capacity ammunition magazines were banned by in 1994, but Congress didn’t renew the ban when it expired in 2004. Since then, such magazines have been used in several mass shootings, including the Virginia Tech slayings in 2007 that left 33 dead and the 2009 attack at Fort Hood, Texas, that killed 13.

High-capacity magazines are legal in Minnesota.

“There’s no reason any civilian needs 30-plus rounds of ammunition: police officers shouldn’t have to confront that much firepower, it’s not fair,” said Richard Aborn, President of the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City.

The National Rifle Association has said it would try to block the law, and that citizens should have access to high-capacity magazines to protect themselves from attacks by armed mobs.

Dolan also appeared at an event Friday sponsored by the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns as part of their national tour to promote legislation tightening the federal background check system.

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  • Patriot

    Tim Dolan doesn’t care that his department can’t (or won’t) enforce the law!!! He is more worried about preventing law-abiding citizens from defending themselves!!! Do you think the criminals will abide by the ban? NO!!! They’re already criminals! Why would they care? Stay in the suburbs where it is still safe and legal to bear arms as our Founding Fathers intended.

    • Na Na Na Na, Hey Hey, Goodbye

      I’m building machine gun turrets on my suburban mini castle.

      • HoooRaaaahh

        I only need one shot.

    • Payton Powell

      I plan on moving much further away than the suburbs now

  • Bill

    trying to ban CLIPS? ha – either Dolan or the headline writer is an idiot (probably both)

    • Jed

      A Magazine is NOT a Clip idiot!

      • What?

        A clip is a magazine but a magazine is not a newspaper.

      • Bill

        That was my point

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  • Dave

    Not fair? Ever notice what a police officer carries. Baton, 9mm or bigger pistol, taser, pepper spray and a shotgun in the car. SWAT teams are even more heavily armed. Even with a high capacity clip the cops have the advantage against a civilian.

    Definitely buying more high capacity clips before the ban goes into effect.

    Maybe if Virginia Tech had authorized conceal carry on its campus its students wouldn’t have been targets for a killer who didn’t care that Virginia Tech was a gun free campus.

    • Pieter

      So you want to outgun police officers…why? What are you implying? I am inferring that you are crazy.

      • noinfringementallowed

        we wanna outgun police officers because they can’t be trusted to serve and protect “we the people”,and if and when the SHTF with the economy going into the toilet,and police states are installed ,and they take orders from the FEDS ,YOU will be very happy the citizens are armed to the teeth,perhaps saving you and your families from being thrown into the FEMA camps,huh?

      • MNTom

        peace thru superior firepower

  • HDC

    this is just stupid. solves nothing.

  • NRC

    Good Question: Do you think the Virginia Tech shooter used high capacity magazines because the ban on them had expired? He’s deliberately going to murder innocent people and he is considering weather or not his weapon, ammunition, and magazine is legal? You gotta be kidding me!

    • noinfringementallowed

      just prooves your police chiefs are morons! absolutely!

  • JB

    NIce time to bring up a non issue. Law abiding citizens do not carry illegal guns nor illegal clips. Hey Timmy boy, instead of picking on law abiding citizens, why don’t you and your band of merry men go pick up a few gang bangers that are carrying illegally?

    • MNTom

      they can’t do that. the liberals do not allow it.

  • Jerald

    For the pro-clippers, what is the point of having a clip/magazine with 11+ rounds of ammunition (besides having an antique firearm and for fun (which is stupid))?

    Ban the 11+ round mag/clips. If you need to shoot off 11+ rounds in under 6 seconds for some reason, practice ejecting and loading a second 10 round clip faster.

  • Patrick PatPat Lilja

    I don’t see why the everyday joe needs to have a high-capacity gun clip/magazine either. And the NRA’s justification for trying to keep the law from passing is stupid. “Protection from armed mobs”? Really? How often does that happen on a daily basis?

    • RonPaulforpresorwearedoomed

      does not happen”yet”,but heading there…no homes,no jobs,no money,no hope…lock ‘n’ load ,sis

    • Mark

      Anyone remember the riots in CA not that long ago or Katrina? I don’t see why laws should ban law abiding citizens in good mental health from owning weapons that deviate from some arbitrary norm. Why is ten rounds ok but 11, 15 or 30 not ok? Do you think criminals will suddenly turn in all their high cap mags? Police will still be out gunned. Why not focus on real issues like making a mental health screening required for a background check? The criminal with a full auto AK and a banana clip isn’t going to care at all about your feel good ban. The “I don’t understand why you need it” argument is illogical, you don’t ban things just because there isn’t an obvious utility, you ban them because they aren’t capable of being handled responsibly by the general public. The general public is not the issue though, so what good is the ban? We ban explosives and machine guns because it takes far greater knowledge to prevent injuring those around you, not the case with high cap mags. Can we just this once try to tackle the issue logically?

      • MNTom

        Is no logic to a liberal

  • teacher4life

    He’s right–no one should ever “out-gun” the police, and no civilian needs that many bullets. For those idiots crying “no gun control” (which I typically agree with), if you need that many shots to hit something with a HAND GUN, your aim sucks anyway, and you shouldn’t be holding a firearm. This law gives the police another thing to arrest gang members for. I’m all for it.

  • teacher4life

    Next up—assault rifles need to go. No reason to have one, period.

    • creepteachers

      the thing we dont need is dingbat teachers like you,voting socialists into office…go away!

    • Patriot

      You are wrong. Citizens need to have military arms in order form the militia as defined in the 2nd Amendment. If the government does not submit to the will of the People, we have no choice but to seek out 2nd Amendment remedies. Those who oppose Freedom should beware.

    • Mark

      No reason except to demonstrate that I remain a CITIZEN and that we collectively allow our government to exist to serve us and not the other way around. Which is the entire purpose of ensuring the individual right to gun ownership, not to dissolve the union, but to protect it. The USA is all of us, the people, not the government and the military. If all the power is in their hands, not ours… things go down hill fast. Why do you think that right before dictators seize power they round up all the weapons? It’s happened over and over again throughout history. You don’t have to own a gun to be free, but you have to be free to own one to be truly free.

      • Patriot

        Right, Mark! This is why Obama, Dayton, and all the rest of the Democrat socialist traitors want to seize your guns! The population cannot be enslaved until we are disarmed. We have to give Chief Dolan a little bit of a break, though; the orders are coming from a lot higher up the chain!

    • MNTom

      try taking mine. i paid for it legally. with my own money and it is mine.

  • MNBrant

    Well, I am against guns but for knives. The idea that guns will somehow magically made the citizenry more responsible is ludicris. Having gun-acrocy where people are forced to carry guns, like the NRA is proposing is based purely on theory. It may work therefore we must try it. I would rather not and if fact would probably stick a knife in someone who tried to force me to carry a gun. Don’t try it. Nuff said.

  • jim

    i endorse a ban on Dolan and his rights like the ban he endorses on my rights.I also endorse a ban on all of his constitutional rights period!!!

    • MNTom

      I will vote fot that

  • jon

    Seems kind of pointless. If I was a criminal I would be using multiple clips anyway that take about 3 seconds to change.

  • Payton Powell

    “it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government” that is why they have a second amendment, and before people jump on my case I come a very liberal back ground and am against most GOP stances. However people will always kill people and no matter what we do and no matter the statistics or what MIchael Moore says it will always happen changing laws won’t prevent anything it is simply political posturing. Not to mention if a criminal really wants an illegal gun they will probably find a way to get their hands on it. Ultimately people need to have a right to defend themselves from criminals and their Government if the situation should ever call for it

    • Patriot

      It’s too bad you’re a liberal, PP, because you got this one right! Oh, well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe there’s still hope for you, though…

      • Payton Powell

        Yeah sorry Patriot my liberal sentiments run deep but still I would consider myself a Doomer things are getting bad no matter what end of the political spectrum you are on and I believe firmly in being prepared because ultimately it won’t be my vote that saves me or put food on the table.

      • Payton Powell

        pre-ban gun with 12+1 round mag purchase made phase 1 complete, time to begin phase two purchase 2-3 more of said magazines

  • Victim Du Jour

    Why not ban bank robbers from using guns when they hold up a bank.

    Gas stations can put up “gun free zone” signs, and store owners can point at the sign when someone holds up a store.

    Just point at the sign and the armed robber will go “darnit – sorry! I’ll just be leaving”

  • Sam

    If it takes you more than a small handful of shots to defend yourself, you shouldn’t be using a gun for self-defense. You are missing too often, either because you are a poor shot or because you’re a poor judge of when to take a shot, and you are a bigger danger to bystanders and yourself than you are to the person you are shooting at.
    Real gunfights are not like they are in the movies. You are not a character in a John Woo film.

    • makemyday

      are you aware of assault machines the police are rolling out in some cities?yah, need alot o clips!

    • MNTP

      Um, Sam? Excuse me, but what about small unit tactics? I need the 30 round mag for my rifle so that I can lay down a base of fire while the rest of my team maneuvers!

  • fred

    maybe this will force gang banging thugs to aim their weapon. they might actually hit there intended target, instead of spaying the entire neighborhood!

  • RIII

    The Second Amendment is to protect us common citizens from our government. Any police Chief that is in favor of restrictions for law abiding citizens is no better than the NAZI SS and should not be trusted.

    • Payton Powell

      nazi ss is a little strong but correct the purpose for the second amendment is to defend us from our own government

      • MNTP

        Actually, he’s much more like a commissar of the Soviet NKVD (not to take anything away from the Nazis, who were much like the current DFL).

  • Lee

    This bill is pointless. 30 round clips have been on the market for decades, they’re already out there in abundance. Passing a law isn’t going to make them disappear. Few if any shooting spree incidents have involved them anyways. Besides, we already know who most of the violent criminals are, let’s just quit letting them go.

  • George

    I use high capacity magazines every day when I go out to my private range. You see, I am disabled and it makes it a heck of a lot easier for me to carry one 40 round magazine for my 22 out to the range than 4 ten round magazines. But I guess that doesn’t matter to those who just want to ban all guns – which is the hidden agenda of people like this police chief and those looking to ban these mags.

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