Bachmann Uses Holocaust To Illustrate Tax Point

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) — Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann on Saturday described the loss of “economic liberty” that young Americans face today as a “flash point of history” in which the younger generation will ask what their elders did to stop it.

In a speech to New Hampshire Republicans, Bachmann recounted learning about a horrific time in history as a child — the Holocaust — and wondering if her mother did anything to stop it. She said she was shocked to hear that many Americans weren’t aware that millions of Jews had died until after World War II ended.

Bachmann said the next generation will ask similar questions about what their elders did to prevent them from facing a huge tax burden.

“I tell you this story because I think in our day and time, there is no analogy to that horrific action,” she said, referring to the Holocaust. “But only to say, we are seeing eclipsed in front of our eyes a similar death and a similar taking away. It is this disenfranchisement that I think we have to answer to.”

The generation of Americans just entering the work force now could eventually see 75 percent of their earnings sucked up by income taxes, Social Security and Medicare, Bachmann said. Those young workers are going to wonder what people were doing while “watching quite literally our economic liberty pulled out from under us.”

“The question comes down to this: what will you say to that next generation about what you did to make sure that wouldn’t be their fate?” she said.

Bachmann, along with fellow potential presidential hopefuls Rick Santorum and Tim Pawlenty, spoke at a forum organized by “We the People,” a conservative organization created by former congressional candidate Jennifer Horn.

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  1. Mike says:

    Michele Bachmann is analogous to stupidity and I am not denying that!

    1. sarah says:

      And she represents folks like Mike in the US House of Representatives.

      1. k says:

        We love you, Michele. Keep up the great work in Congress.

        1. yelper says:

          Yeah Michelle keep blabbering so all of the US can think Minnesota is filled with morons such as k above…

  2. lib says:

    Yes let’s attack the speaker and ignore everything she has to say. We are in debt and perhaps that doesn’t mean anything to people who have declared bankrupcy, but for the rest of the state and nation who has to pick up this horrendous burden it is a virtual disaster. We can not hand down this devestating, back breaking bill to our children and grandchildren, we need to be adult and solve the problem.

    1. Patrick Lilja says:

      That’s not the point. The fact is that she makes moronic comments like this, using human tragedies to illustrate examples for arguments involving things as silly as money.

      1. Jen says:

        I agree Patrick, she does use moronic examples and comments. Her and Palin… Hard to tell who is a bigger moron… The holocaust and taxes???

    2. Robert Radke says:

      And her solution is……………….?? Also your suggestion that the rest of us have declared bankruptcy to escape “this horrendous burden” is ludicrous beyond rational belief!!

      1. tuna-free dolphin says:

        I think her solution is… “WE’RE ALL IN A BIG HOLE (america) HEY MORON (Obama) STOP DIGGING! Pretty simple really. Even a child, or a liberal could figure it out.

        1. Walker says:

          She is trying to be leader. You are as blowhard as she is. What has she done to balance the books. Voted for tax cuts to the wealthy. She also voted for a war with no funding for it. Even a child, or a dolphin could figure out that does not balance the books. She has a shovel in this, too.

          1. Mr. Paymoreatthepump says:

            Obama started another conflict in Libya (which has brought us higher gas prices, one less place to get oil). Thanks Obama…

            1. sickofthebs says:

              Are you kidding me. Some people will re-babble whatever they’ve been told without thinking for themselves!! Gas prices have been rising since the November elections when Republican’s took over Congress. We don’t get any oil from Libya!!!! During the BP oil spill and a Democratic Congress, did oil prices rise??? Independent thought please AKA Think for yourself.

        2. grizzley man says:

          I don’t know, a liberal will tend to whine and name call and try to make an issue out of a non-issue.

          1. Walker says:

            @grizzley man A person with no real capability for an argument or thought comes back with “you are name calling”. At least you admit you do not know. The politicians all run around hollering that Washington has to balance the budget, they spend too much. Yet they all cast votes for stuff that costs money without paying for it. They take the government farm subsidies to make even more money. But as you say, You don’t know. You can’t see double talk in front of your face.

          2. Take the keys away each time. says:

            grizzley man
            How did the comment you just made not contradict the comment you just made? Throwing what in a glass house?

        3. tom says:

          liberals will never be able to figure it out, the are non thinking blind following sheep

          1. Walker says:

            Once again someone with not much to say just blindly ripping.

            1. Walker says:

              @tom. What did Bush do over his eight years to either lower the debt, or lower the spending? Nothing. He had veto power. Dis he end earmarks. No. You say a liberal is a non thinking blind sheep? Bachmann runs around shooting her mouth off and has done nothing but take government money. Senator Rand at least proposed something. You notice how far that has gone. When you rip on people for something look in the mirror first.

      2. StraycatStrut says:

        The solution moron Radke is to get new people in office, dump the BO administration and tax cheats he has as council and get moving on lowering taxes and let the private sector time enough to regain trade and the economy. Not surprised Radke does not know this. Hopefully his head is outta the can

        1. Frank says:

          Pull your head out of your body part. Look around and see the record profits big business is making. It is not starting the economy any.

          1. StraycatStrut says:

            Frank…. where are the jobs oh wise one?……… still at 20% promised under 8%…. that must be a growing economy. BO is BO… the economy stinks. Now $4 a gallon at the pumps… must be the change were all looked for. Is that part of you profit picture? Wake up. Democrats cannot effectively solve anything by printing money and tossing our hard earned bucks arournd. CA is bankrupt- excuse me…. another Demorcatic authority headed under. Tossers……

    3. Citizen says:

      lib. Time to quit beating a dead horse! The tax burden is the result of FAILED Republican fiscal policies starting with the GOP God Ronald Reagan. Unfortunately, he had some help from the Democrats. But, no matter, “W” left Obama with this mess. Obama is trying to fix things in a bipartisan manner with little to no support from the GOP. How about Obama just cut all spending to eliminate the debt? Would that make you happy, lib? It can’t be done. Frankly, a lot of the debt could be addressed if the wealthy and corporations gave up their tax cuts and started paying their share of the taxes they owe to this great country that made them wealthy and successful. There are millionaires and billionaires out there who have formed a lobbying group to have their taxes raised! You need to read a book and quit listening to the right wingnuts and the Koch Brothers’ propaganda.

      1. lib says:

        Citizen, If you look at the spending charts, president Obama has way outspent any president by percentages ever in office and he shows no signs of wanting to stop. This is the first time since the great depression that govt. handouts have surpassed revenue taken in. Almost 60 percent of the people in this country pay no tax, it may be taken out of their paychecks, but their refund is larger than they pay in. If you want to tax the corporations who create jobs, go ahead, as we have seen they take their ball and go to another country to play. we need to create jobs so that people that are on the social programs can have work.

        1. Citizen says:

          lib. I don’t know what books you are reading–none, I guess. And the reason government handouts have been so vast since the Great Depression? Hello? We ARE IN a world-wide recession that doesn’t just affect the U.S. But, if you read anything besides right wingnut propaganda, you would know that. It is imperative to keep the U.S. economy afloat even as corporations flee the country and take our jobs with them. Oh, I forgot. All those GOP policies and trickle down theory and tax cuts of the last 30 years prevented that! Didn’t they? Um, guess not. Albert Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting DIFFERENT results. Sounds like Republican tax policies to me. The wealthy and corporations have had their taxes cut over and over and over again, and it has made no difference. The jobs continue to leave. Lies and more lies, and people like you continue to be buffaloed and believe the lies.

          1. Bejoth says:

            Additionally, Obama had to spend to keep the nation from falling into an even deeper recession or depression. Most respected economists, not those posing as economists on the faux news network, Fox News, agree that was the proper and really the only available response. LIB should remember it was her President Bush that threw this economy into the brink with the empirically failed policies which the current Republican party wants to expand.

            1. Mike T says:

              I’m with lib on this one. The GOP of the 2000’s were spending like they were democrats and they do deserve a part of the blame. However, The Messiah was suppose to fix all of this and instead of turning the car around (when you are heading the wrong way), he has stood on the gas! How in the hell is anyone going to tell me that by putting ourselves in more debt, that we will miraculously rise out of our financial whoas? The Republican’s budget proposals are the only real true attempt to reign in government spending. Even Sweden and Canada realized this years ago and have their countries back to sustainable spending levels. By the way Obama signed up for this; enough with the inhereted BS.

              1. Derrick says:

                It is not BS the line that he inherited it. Obama hasn’t solved, nor has the GOP proposed anything that would either

              2. Citizen says:

                @Mike T. Gee, I thought the wealthy Republicans and their humongous corporations would have created lots of jobs like promised and all the tax revenue from those jobs would help eliminate the debt. Oh, guess what! 30 years of the God Reagan’s trickle down money theory that provided huge tax cuts for the wealthy hasn’t worked. Amazing! Imagine that. The wealthy and corporations hanging on to their money and not helping their fellow citizens or the government that made them wealthy and successful. And yet, people liike you, Mike T, continue to support this failed philosophy and these disgusting lies. Albert Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Now that we’ve had 30 years of Republican lies, are you going to keep believing those same old lies? The Republican’s budget is nothing but those lies again–more tax breaks to the rich! More tax breaks to the corporations! They’ll create jobs. Sure, right, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. This is about the 10th go round for the Republican’s budget proposals. Shame on all of us for believing their drivel. They have us all racing to the bottom.

                1. Dear Jimmie Carter Lover says:

                  @Citizen

                  You must have missed the Jimmy Carter year (he was “president” before Ronald Reagan). In case you missed it, we had long lines at the gas pumps (gas shortage), automobile prices were out of control, let’s not forget the hostage situation in Iran (and Carter’s failed attempt to rescue the hostages), Three Mile Island was under Carter’s belt, and how did Carter leave office? Oh yea, it’s in our history books, he lost by a “landslide”. Jimmy Carter lost to Ronald Regan in a landslide.

                  Now your picking on Ronald Regan, huh, it was such a blessing when when the economy turned around in the 80’s. Another fun fact, because I know Citizen your love your facts, the US emabassy hostages were released immediately after Regan took office. Nice job Jimmie (Mr. Peanut).

            2. tom says:

              actually it was clinton, telling the banks to give everyone not qualified for a home that they have to give them to them and the banks came out with ARM that started the economy into a downfall when everyone started to default.

              1. HD says:

                HD
                And then Bush and his cronies increased the amount of FHA loans to be given out from approximately 16% to between 25-30% these really got the ball rolling with the economic downfall and bad loans being given out. The banks became un-regulated at the Republicans’ orders. I wonder if they benefited from all this HMMMM? Indeed the rich got richer, again.

          2. Deb says:

            @citizen
            It’s obvious you did not grow up in the “Cater Years”. How did Carter leave office, oh yeah, he lost in a landslide election. Those were the days, long lines at the pump, high gas prices, economy out of control, Iran hostage issue (Carter’s failed attempt to rescue them), Three Mile Island…. wow…

            What a Democratic Leader he was…

            Funny thing was, as soon as Reagan finished the Oath of Office, the hostages were released immediately!

            1. Citizen says:

              @Deb. And as soon as Reagan got his hands on the economy, the deficits started until we had a Democratic president again named William Jefferson Clinton. And,yes, I grew up in the “Cater(sic) years.” I actually grew up in the Eisenhower years. The last great Republican president. Got any apologies for Nixon?

              1. Jeff says:

                I’ll give you kudos for Eisenhower, however,…

                However, your critizing the deficit being out of control, when we have a president who is spending more then ever, our grandchildren won’t even be able to pay off the national debt. BTW… William Jefferson Clinton was a “Bush” in disguise. Can you tell the folk out there how Hillary made all that money in the Whitewater Scandal? She came out smelling like a rose on that one…

            2. Tom says:

              I know it is a shame, I was in Marine Corps at the time and that is when we should of went in and taken Iran over, would not be having most of these problems now over there.,

            3. HD says:

              HD
              Which had been in the works for months before the oath. Another republican puppet that benefited form work he did not do himself.

        2. HD says:

          Lib?
          Wow are you ever drinking the kool-aid. Whos’s not paying any taxes and getting big refunds? Try the 3% of the people who control 50-60% of the wealth in this country. Educate yourself and stop listeneing to Glenn Beck.

          1. Tom says:

            thats funny, I know a family that has 4 kids, pays no taxes and gets 5000 or better every year back from the government., How can you get money back when you put none in.

            1. HD says:

              HD
              Really? generally you don’t get a refund without paying in. Are you sure they aren’t receiving Gov’t assistance? I think there’s a lot of misinformation going around. Read Griftopia, very enlightenening. Again, stop listening to Glenn Beck.

        3. Mike says:

          60 Minutes reported the US Government has the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Other countries, especially in Europe, are lowering their corporate tax rate so the can lurer in American companies. Who knows, maybe one day you’ll wake up and find out your company has moved their headquarters out of the country, and your out of a job. Liberal say what?

      2. Todd says:

        Citizen you are correct. Last year NO oil company paid taxes but they got huge tax refunds for “exploring” for more oil, which they will sell for $120 a barrel. GE has sent 20% of the their US jobs over seas and they paid a whopping 1.1% in federal taxes while pulling in $26 billion. I paid 8 times that in federal taxes. The rich do not pay their fare share of taxes. Yes, they pay more but as a percentage it is a fraction of what the middle class (whats left of us) pay.

        1. Jeff says:

          @Todd,
          Wyoming is a state in which there is no sales tax and no imcome tax, and the State of Wyoming’s economy is much better than the State of Minnesota’s economy. Thanks to the oil and gas companies. Enjoy your Minnesota debt and taxes!!:) Oh yea, the petroleum companies pay a tax to the state. The hotels in Wyoming, booked with subcontractors, its actually cheaper to stay the weekend at a hotel than during a weekday.

    4. Linda says:

      I don’t see anyone ignoring what Bachmann has to say. I see them remarking that what she has to say makes no sense. I especially object to her comparing taxes and the Holocaust. The woman has no sense of proportion (or even logic) when making comparisons. And, bankruptcy? You think that our problems are the result of people declaring bankruptcy? Step back and take a look at Republican financial policies and actually think about what you just said.

    5. Paul says:

      Indeed, we must not hand down this major debt to our children, because their republican legislators will then have to kick it on down the road to THEIR children, etc etc etc until the planet melts. We simply must demand, right NOW, that the über-wealthy persons and person-corporations pay their fair share of the burden. That, plus eliminate a major portion of the worthless, hate-inspiring, killing- and abuse-happy military (can’t call it “defense”) budget, and we’ll be just fine.

      1. Todd says:

        Fact: the top 400 richest people in the US have more wealth than the bottom 150,000,000 people in the US. Is this fair? I don’t think so. Who runs the Tea Party: the Koch brothers, who are in the top richest people in America. Wake up Tea Party idiots, you are being used by huge corporations to make them wealthier. They could care less about you and yours, all they want is to control more wealth and destroy the middle class.

        1. Mike says:

          Hey Todd,

          Have your ever had to pay almost 50% of your gross in taxes? BTW, I’m being told by a liberal middle man (Al Franken), that we should pay more in taxes, this turd enjoys free health care at your expense. He and the rest of Congress can walk right by the TSA and not get felt up. Ms. Nancy Pelosi has been flying around on a corporate jet at the US expense, if she’s into jobs, why isn’t she flying commercial just like everyone else….

          1. HD says:

            HD
            I would pay higher taxes if it meant EVERYONE benefted. Not just the upper class and the uber-wealthy. By the way, I just flew, and did not get “felt up”, and I’m a regular citizen. I don’t agree that senate and congress should get a free ride, as far as health care, pensions, etc. goes, but let’s add an amendment to the constitution to change that then. Instead of blaming the president. The middle class is vanishing and people like, Boehner and the GOP are using the middle class to do it. WAKE UP, the rich are getting richer and the rest of us are losing out.

    6. Gregg A. Iverson says:

      oh right !!!!!

    7. Todd says:

      Maybe you shouildnt have voted for Bush then? He started 2 wars and cut taxes. Wake up, that is why we are in debt. You can’t fund two wars then cut taxes and expect the budget to be balanced. Each war is costing about a trillion dollars each, how do we pay for it? Cut taxes to the rich. Then let all our jobs leave for China with a healthy tax break for doing it. We need tarrifs and we need them now or the USA is doomed. Michelle is not going to tax the rich with what she calls “job killers”. The rich have had these breaks for 10+ years, where are the jobs?

      1. Julie says:

        Todd, Todd, Todd,….
        Looks like your not up on your history…
        The US was able to get out of the Great Depression because of WW2. The factories that built all the ships, tanks, boats, ammo placed a lot of people back to work. After WW2, the US was one of the wealthiest nations on the planet.
        Alos, Bush starting two wars? How about your current president, Oboma? We’re still fighting in Afghanistan, we still have noncombat troops in in Iraq….

        Do you know why corporations left for China? Q. Todd… is it cheaper to produce a product here or over in China (Hint…. which country has the highest standard of living)? Q2. Todd… Which country has the toughest environmental regualtions? (Hint: Think Liberal). Q3. Todd… The corporate tax rate (that’s what a company pays in taxes) is higer in China or the US? (Hint… Liberals love taxing corporations!).

        Yep, the companies left for a reason…. Thanks to your liberal buddies!

        1. HD says:

          HD
          This sentimental 1940’s mentallity doesn’t apply to today. WW2 was about Hitler, not oil. This has always been about greedy Americans making a money grab. President Obama inherited the mess of all messes, and we should all be patient as he tries to clean it up. NOT block him at every turn and refuse to compromise. Yes, we love taxing corporations, maybe if they weren’t so greedy, they would keep these jobs in the US and pay US workers a decent wage, thus helping the economy with jobs. Quit blaming the left, we all own a piece of this mess.

  3. Richard in Minneapolis says:

    Being adult and Michelle Bachmann are mutually exclusive concepts.

  4. Robert Radke says:

    Bat s**t crazy is still bat s**t crazy!!

  5. Serfdom says:

    Another question is why people like Bachmann exist in the political forum. Who fortifies politicians like her? Find those corporations, expose their agenda. It won’t be easy.

    1. Citizen says:

      Yes, MB is bought and paid for. There is a term for that… The Koch brothers are one such financier–they financed Walker in Wisconsin. He owes them his job and now the rest of his working career, I bet. The agenda is very simple. He who has the gold, makes the rules. The extremely wealthy can buy their politicians and the political agenda they want. And that is the reason they espouse a weak central (federal) government. Once all that is in place, the rest of us will truly be serfs begging for corporate handouts and jobs–way more than we are now. And there will be no social service safety nets, either. No social security, no Medicare, no health care (unless the corporation owns you). Benefits only for the GOOD little slaves. And these corporations and the wealthy will be bloated with money–BLOATED!

      1. Julie says:

        @ Citizen
        60 minutes did a segment on how major corporations sponsor both political parties. The under cover cameras at a Democratic fundraiser, at a fancy hotel located in Washington, D.C. Showed us a party that looked no different then a Republican fundraiser. Fancy hotels, and luxury cars parked outside. Why would a major corporation bet on one political party, when you can bet on two, and win!

  6. walleye says:

    If you dont tax the rich, then the others have to make up for it, gop hypocracy at its finest, i was there for 1 of her 2010 commercials, a spoiled ditz with an inch of makeup, she couldnt remember her lines, just a fake hiding corrupt policies

  7. Pavel says:

    I loved the comment! They even make as much sense as she does!

  8. Jon says:

    Everyone agrees that debt is a problem but you don’t do it the backs of the less fortunate,tax cuts for the top 2percent does nothing for our economy,trickle down does not work! cut the Bush tax cuts for all may be part of the solution

    1. Tom says:

      how about less government and quit spending more than they take in

      1. Harvey says:

        Let’s cut veteran’s benefits.
        .
        If you are irate at that statement you might understand the crux of the problem. People are happy to cut what does not benefit them. Neither party has decisive enough leadership to push through any real change.

  9. lowell says:

    I AM ASHAMED TO EVEN ACKNOWLEGE SHE IS FROM MINNESOTA!!

    1. Independant says:

      I live in her district, so I completely understand how you feel!

  10. pat says:

    I say tax every corporation and rich person, yes even Oprah until they all leave the country, then we can go back to living off the land. The way we were supposed to. No pollution, no cars, no noise, growing our own food and canning it, we would have to cut some trees for heating iin the winter, or not, we could all huddle together and if anybody put an extra room on his cabin we would drive the rich bum out. Sounds great doesn’t it.

    1. Citizen says:

      pat. Have you read any of the other posts here? Hello? Anybody home, pat? Guess not….

  11. Citizen says:

    All of us progressives and liberals probably should thank MB because she does more for our cause than all the statistics and facts with which we try to educate people. She actually represents the GOP and Tea Party folks pretty well!!!! Is it time for a recall election in her district?

    1. Ann Rand is not Christ-like says:

      Agreed.

      Then again, thank goodness someone is fighting for “victims” like Donald Trump who may have to give up one less fur coat per year, were it not for the Nazi like tax burden. tsk tsk

      1. Citizen says:

        LOL, Ann! Which number wife is Trump on now?

    2. lib says:

      Citizen you have failed to give any facts or statistics, all you do is rant and rave. How about a constructive idea or two, besides taking what others have earned to give to those who don’t earn. Talk about slavery and tyranny, why would someone continue to stay productive when others just take everything they produce?

      1. Frank says:

        And giving faux statistics like you do is better?

      2. Citizen says:

        @lib. I’ve given you plenty of statistics, and I can give you plenty of books to read, but there’s the problem. You have to read, not listen to Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and faux news. Read David Cay Johnston’s book “Perfectly Legal.” His statistics are more thorough than any I can quote here. Read Barlett and James’ book, “America, What went Wrong” or “America: Who really pays the Taxes?” Then get back to me…..

  12. Ann Rand is not Christ-like says:

    Did Bachmann liken her families $250K in farm subsidies to profiting from the Holocaust? How about the stipends she received for providing foster care?

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Antisocialist_Bachmann_got_250k_in_federal_farm_subsidies.html

    1. shirley says:

      The radical republican’s talk about the senior’s , middle class and poor taking advantage of the system ,when her family got government subsidies and foster parent’s get paid quite well,,,,she’ll tell you she did it out of love. (love of money that is)She’s been living off of tax payer’s out here long enough.

      1. Joy says:

        Shirley, how many children, other than your own, have you taken into your home? And how do you know she took the money from the state to provide for them? I don’t agree with what she said, but lets try to focus on that, and not her personal life. If you remember, the first “black” president had a personal life of his own that the liberals claimed he was entitled to. Your comment is just another example of liberal hypocrisy and double-standard. And, just in case some of you suffer from short-term memory, Bill Clinton is the first “black” president of which I am referring. I didn’t give him that name, his supporters did.

        1. Citizen says:

          @Joy. The problem is that Obama did not campaign against the way he led his life. If Bachmann and her family received government subsidies which provided income to them, then she should not be hypocritical and criticize others who do so. That is the point. Bachmann is the hypocrite as are others of her ilk like the Republicans who campaign on morals yet have been married more times than we can count and committed adultery to boot. But, Republicans don’t have the good sense NOT to criticize others when they are guilty themselves of the same sins. HYPOCRISY!

  13. Jon says:

    Wow, she is really dumb.

  14. shirley says:

    The more bachman opens her mouth the more stupid she sounds. she has no political intelect at all. The wealthy and their tax breaks is all she’s concerned about. You know the wealthy who sent those jobs overseas already! And why would she wonder if and what her mother did, I could see her not getting a long with her mother,she was probably daddy’s girl, spoiled rotten, and daddy think’s she’s cute, but poor Mom was the one who probably tried to discipline .She and her radical republican’s & t party friends know about the huge tax burden ‘s they’re the biggest part of it.

  15. Victim Du Jour says:

    I already see the government rounding up people into prison for stupid stuff.

    Soon we will need bigger prisons and labor camps.

    It’s cheaper for the government to put everyone in prison, and take their social security and Medicare.

  16. Subrina Montgomery says:

    OMG, this woman has compared taxes to the Holocaust. After saying that Slavery wasn’t all that bad and that John Quincy Adams was a Founding Father she’s now saying that the loss of economic liberty, whatever that means, is the same as 6,000,000 Jewish people being murdered by the Nazis.

    1. Joy says:

      Subrina, I blasted someone a while ago for comparing Michelle Bachman to Hitler. Although I can see what she was trying to communicate, I don’t think anyone should bring up Hitler or the Holocaust into any comparisons of current political affairs, including Michelle Bachman; unless there is an avtual genocide taking place somewhere in the world. Can’t we just let this horribly horrific event stand alone?

      1. tom says:

        forget the past and you will repeat it

  17. Citizen says:

    Subrina. You have to understand that MB is bought and paid for. Money is her God. I’m sure she considers 6,000,000 lives equal to money. She isn’t just a political disgrace anymore, she’s a disgrace to humanity! I can’t believe the constituents in her district allow her to continue in office. Guess there’s no shame anymore…..

    1. Independant says:

      As one of her constituents, I did my part in voting against her. I’m willing to bet the only reason she keeps getting elected is because people in this district vote along party lines. They feel that a stupid republican is better than any democrat. What bothers me the most is she isn’t even representing this district anymore… she’s too busy working on polishing her national image and stumping for the wingnut tea party movement.

  18. American Patriot says:

    I’m hoping for a Palin/Bachmann ticket. Of course, I’m a Democrat. But I find it frightening and depressing that a sizable segment of our country seriously considers either one of these two as a possible leader of the most powerful country on earth! I don’t agree with most Republican policies, but our country thrives on the intelligent debate of solutions to the challenges we face. As much as it pains me to say it, our country would be well served if Republicans can find a heavyweight to champion their cause.

  19. Shirley Moll says:

    I have to admit and confess, that Michelle Bachmann is a TOTAL INSULT TO ALL WOMEN.

    1. Jeff says:

      Insult? She,s hot!

    2. tom says:

      your just jealous cause your an ugly flat slob

      1. Betty says:

        If the saying “Ignorance is bliss”, tom must be the happiest man on earth.

      2. Dave says:

        ha ha….
        she a MILF

  20. Citizen says:

    @American Patriot. What cause, pray tell, is the GOP’s cause? Because everything they say they are against–they are FOR. They talk out of both sides of their mouth. As far as I can tell, their agenda is to make the rich still richer, give corporations more offshore tax breaks and laws encouraging them to outsource U.S. jobs, and basically have the wealthy and corporations pay no taxes whatsoever, and take away all social safety nets. I guess taxes are the responsibility of the “little people.” Because if you can’t stand on the backs of the elderly, the poor, the disabled, the almost-broken middle class, and children, whose backs can you stand on?

    1. American Patriot says:

      Yes, quite right. That’s why I’m a Democrat and progressive. However, everything needs a counterbalance. Republicans used to talk of fiscal responsibility and low tax rates, although mainly for big business and the rich. Now, this really isn’t in the interests of most of us, so how do you convince people to vote against their own self interests? The social agenda…family values et al. Then Reagan comes up with breaking unions and proclaiming government the problem. Now this has all morphed into anti-government, anti-social movements that permiate the GOP. It could be they will reap what they’ve sown, as people finally recoil from their extremist positions. But it would be nice to have people on the other side of the aisle with different viewpoints that you could debate and compromise with.

  21. Rob says:

    What am I going to do to save the future? Vote DEMOCRAT.

  22. RW says:

    What an idiot. Her picture looks like she is enjoying s4X.

  23. lowell says:

    Wher were all you people when we tried to vote her out office????

    1. Sarah says:

      Stuck on the stool…

    2. tom says:

      voting for her

      1. Julie says:

        Tom, nice job on turning the stool upright….

  24. Samsara says:

    @Shirley Moll
    Yes, thank you! I feel exactly the same way!

  25. lipstickface says:

    she is a embarasment to all minnesotans please world we are not like her at all
    do not vote for this wack job ,

  26. Big Jack says:

    And yet she represents the majority of minnesotans and yes the majority of americans.

  27. Citizen says:

    Hey, Big Jack, got any statistics to prove that? Recent polls show that no matter which one of the 12 GOP “hopefuls” runs, Obama will beat that candidate, handily.

  28. DFL Wins Again says:

    If Bachmann’s, or Pawlenty’s names end up on the ballot you will know that the Republican Party has thrown in the towel.

  29. Wm. Sweeney says:

    Bachmann’s overall point is correct — we have to get out of the whirlpool of government deficits ASAP. Her use of the Holocaust analogy is a bit far fetched – as is her partisan rhetoric, and, of course, her solutions are utterly foolish and based on economic reasoning that may not qualify as ‘reasoning’.
    What makes her dangerous – and credible to many – is that there are some kernels of truth in what she says. But her combination of religious fundamentalism and ill-defined patriotism results in thinking that can only be described as ‘bizarre’.
    It still amazes me that someone who sneaked around MN State Capitol shrubbery stalking people who were marching for a change in government policy can be seen as someone we should take seriously.

  30. lipstickthis says:

    Michele Bachmann will you tell me another story like the one were the pilgrims went on a cruise ship ride and some how got lost at sea and when they found land there was a big corn stalk they tied there ship to and called it plymouth corn…. come on bachmann get your stories right, maybe start with the pilgrims and then you would understand why they called this land america and why this country is what it is ,you will never change that,

  31. manny says:

    MB is an android

  32. thinkaboutit says:

    would you let Michele Bachmann run your buisness,could you count on her to help you get a job,would you trust her to give your elderly mother the right dose of medicine so she can stay alive, if you were sick would you trust her to feed your 500 head of cattle 3 times a day would you trust her enough to let her have access to the red button that could end the world in a instant, do you trust her enough to make life or death decisions for us all , this is not some one i would trust to watch over a country let alone baby sit this is a women that blows alot of hott air and tharts it what has she done for any minnesotan or any american to give her any power do not vote fore her unless its for queen bee

    1. Just me says:

      I wouldn’t trust MB to run a bake sale.

  33. BMW says:

    It won’t just be your children and the next generation bankrupt and paying for government overspending thats taken place in the 2000’s. If Washington keeps spending and the Fed keeps printing money does it really take a rocket scientist to figure out that dollar will continue to be worth less and less…. Face it the dollar is not really strong and some countries are beginning to not even exchange it. There will be inflation most likely, and it will cost more to buy goods and services. Sooner than later our savings and retirement funds may just go poof if Washington does not settle the deficit and reel in the spending.

    Granted Michelle is not gifted with a silver tongue, but I think she means well trying to get her message across.

    1. Citizen says:

      @BMW. I guess your moniker says it all. I seriously do not worry about Washington’s overspending, and you don’t need to, either. We actually need to print more money to get more money into the hands of the people of this country because the wealthy and corporations are hoarding it and not creating jobs or spending for consumer goods. Why are you spreading fear about the strength of the dollar? It is backed by the most powerful and wealthiest country on the planet. The deficit will be solved best by the wealthy and corporations paying their fair share of taxes, the corporations creating jobs in the U.S., and an end to incentives to hide finances in offshore accounts as well as move jobs overseas. Unless you seriously think our financial problems can be solved on the backs of the elderly, the poor, the almost-broken middle class, children, and the disabled. MB does not mean well–she is only out for herself.

      1. Jason says:

        Are you implying that the U.S. is the most powerful and wealthiest country in the nation? if that is the case then maybe you should explain to millions of Americans why China is the financial backer for our country now!!!!

        Printing more currency only increases the physical amount in circulation and it actually decreases the value of the U.S. dollar.

        1. Citizen says:

          @Jason. I believe I said that the U.S. is most powerful and wealthiest country in the WORLD. China might be buying up our debt, but you have to ask yourself why? Because the U.S. is a good investment with our high-producing workers, vast land resources, and highly technological military. China is betting we won’t default on those notes, and the U.S. won’t. You should not spread fear about the solvency of our great nation. There is a word for people who spread that type of manure around and it begins with a “t……”

        2. Mike says:

          In term of GDP, the US is the wealthiest country in the world.

          Jason, China bought our housing debts, because they were concerned about the US economy going into a recession, which it did. China did not want to see it’s exports to the US drop.

          Good news, BMW and Jason, Obama said, on national tv, we are out of a recession! Could this be a deja vu, of Bush on the aircraft carrier years ago, announcing the war in Iraq is over!?!

      2. grizzley man says:

        Every time they print money they overall value of it decreases. Notice the 4 dollar gas? The 10.99 per pound steak? Our dollar is already worth little without printing more.

      3. tom says:

        thats the problem, obummer is printing money like he has the press in the oval office, and everytine he prints the dollar loses value and prices go up and the chinese currency inproves,

  34. Citizen says:

    And as a point of information. President Bill Clinton gave George W. Bush a surplus when that poser was elected to office. Oops, I mean appointed by Florida. Bush quickly ran a deficit because he had to give tax breaks to his wealthy and corporate supporters. Bush also ran on eliminating the alternative minimum tax which was starting to affect middle-class families. However, Bush never did eliminate that tax when he realized that to do so would mean he couldn’t give his wealthy constituents their big tax breaks. Now, with the wealthy and corporations managing to pay so little tax, the AMT is becoming more and more relied on. This tax is so regressive that it is really better tax-wise for a young couple to live together and file separately as head of household, than to get married and throw their incomes together! And the GOP is pro-family, blah, blah, blah…absolute hogwash.

    1. Jules says:

      Ah yes, the Florida elections… still using the same voting machines from a long time ago (the “Chad”).

      Typical Floridian – Senior Citizen (Snow Bird), Can handle 6 Bingo Cards at one time, Can spot a 20 cent error on a $214 grocery bill, but can not cast one ballot!!

  35. HadEnough says:

    Michelle Bachmann has a very poor grasp of reality. In my opinion her comments are so exaggerated that she ends up perverting the point she is trying to make. Yes, there is excessive government spending. No, it is not on public assistance or Medicare. The excessive spending begins with the political gifts politicians give to lobby groups. The over spending continues in the tax cuts given the wealthy and big business. Comments about people getting refunds over and above what they had taken out of their pay checks fail to take into account the taxes paid on almost everything they purchase to live. The tax refunds indicate a bigger problem. Too much tax taken to begin with. It is truly sad that the majority of the money in the United States is in the pockets and bank accounts of very few. Claiming that people filing bankruptcy is the problem ignores the fact that many large companies have filed for bankruptcy protection (Donald Trump). I have an answer to some of this. Start by eliminating subsidies to big business (Oil companies); continue by setting a limit on the amount of deductions allowed any business. Continue from there by stopping the handouts to other countries. Instead of blaming the people hit hardest by this economy why not try and find a way to help. I don’t care how we got here, I just care that we find a way back.
    By the way, our economy has NOTHING to do with nor is anything like the murder committed during the holocaust.

  36. Empty Space says:

    Whenever Bachmann opens her mouth all you can see is hair roots!

  37. Jason says:

    Nothing ever changes between the political party sheep being led to slaughter, it always turns into the sam thing , one party blaming the other for whatever is wrong today.

    Bachmann doesn’t care about her party or the people she supposedly represents and it’s about time that people wake up and realize it. She is grandstanding for a shot at the oval office. This has always been her goal from day one.

    If we are going to blame anyone then we have to take the responsibility ourselves for letting these politicians continue with their crooked ways. They are supposed to be working for us yet we are having to bow to their wishes everyday.

  38. JS says:

    Future generations will learn about Bachmann and wonder why the heck we didn’t do something to stop her and her crazy rants about light bulbs and taxes.

  39. Al says:

    A very ugly human being. Remember, very little of the $$ she has raised has ever come from Minnesotans. She is a Koch Sucker, as are all republicans.

    1. Jason says:

      and here we have proof of the point I made earlier, always blame everyone else

    2. Sarah says:

      Actually, she is kind of hot.

      Is this Mr. Al Franken?

  40. King says:

    She’s a witch !

  41. War says:

    Hey joe the moron, I’m German with a German sounding last name, does that make my family Nazi’s? I guess the fact that both of my grandfathers fought in WWII on the side of the US don’t mean much to someone as high and mighty as a lowly laborer. You should watch who your throwing the “N” word at. And I’m not talking about the one that ends with an R (even though you better watch yourself on that one too).

    1. German Bob says:

      I completedly agree with War. Joe is obviously not that very intelligent. Joe, make sure that you think before you speak. Your a dumb f**k for believing everbody with a German-sounding name has Nazis in their family heirarchy!

      1. German Bob says:

        I should also add in… Joe, not everybody THAT IS GERMAN has Nazi heritage. Stupid, stupid, STUPID!!!!

        1. Walker says:

          Never mind that her maiden name is Amble

        2. Jon says:

          the Nazis were a radical political party, not a heritage.

          A few WW2 facts:
          Most German companies which exist today (Bayer, Volkswagen, Krupp’s, Mercedes Benz) used slave labor (Jews) during WW2. Let’s not forget the German scientists during WW2 who worked in the factories (along side the Jews) were brought to the US, after the war, so we could compete with the Soviet Union in the Cold War, later the German Scientists went to work for NASA.

          Oh yes, the Catholic Church helped some of the Nazi leaders escape capture, after the war, and helped them with their travel to Argentina.

          1. sarah says:

            Bachman must be doing something right, Minnesota put her back in for a second term.

            1. Stillwater resident says:

              Well – I think we did wrong myself by doing so. I’,m in the 6th, voted for her twice, and am Jewish.
              She started to lose me almost a year ago – she’s lost me totally after this ridiculous banter that was spoken.
              I almost sense an erosion of some of her mental capacity – my now deceased parents would have referenced Hitler’s mental deterioration as being similar I am sure

              1. Tom says:

                True, Bacman, right cause, poor choice of words.

  42. Max says:

    Does anyone, at least anyone with a modicum of common sense and rationality, take this woman seriously?

  43. Murph says:

    The sky is falling,the sky is falling..hopefully it will crush her empty head!

  44. Mom She's Crazy says:

    For all you moronic tea baggers that support Michelle, are you really this stupid?

    1. tom says:

      if you supported obummer than you are the one that is really stupid

  45. Aubrey Immelman says:

    It’s deja vu all over again . . . U.S. Rep. Steve Israel has called on Michele Bachmann to apologize for Holocaust imagery displayed at a rally organized by Bachmann at the U.S. Capitol on November 5, 2009 to protest health care reform. …

    http://www.immelman.us/news/bachmann-rebuked-for-nazi-image/

  46. In the end says:

    The point of the article is that Bachmann compared the Holocaust to taxes. That is disgusting. Enough said.

  47. Brerwster says:

    Corporate subsidies = Welfare for the rich!, The GOP calling card!

    1. Sheryl says:

      I like your name, is it French?

  48. Kirk Allen Larson says:

    ARTHUR: A duck.
    CROWD: Oooh.
    BEDEMIR: Exactly! So, logically…,
    VILLAGER #1: If… she.. weighs the same as a duck, she’s made of wood.
    BEDEMIR: And therefore–?
    VILLAGER #1: A witch!
    CROWD: A witch!
    BEDEMIR: We shall use my larger scales!

  49. Victim Du Jour says:

    ADM gets corporate welfare, and so does GE.

    GE owns MSNBC and NBC, so it makes sense why SNL doesn’t make jokes about Obama.

    1. Donna N says:

      Apparently you don’t watch SNL.

      Anyway Miss Bachman’s comments were out of line.

      1. Jeff says:

        who would watch SNL, its gone downhill since the early 90s.

  50. Mommy1 says:

    Comparing the outcome from two terms of Bush Presidency and economic policy to the Holocaust?? Shameful. I hope the rest of the country knows that plenty of Minnesotans do NOT support her agenda or ideas. Embarrassing!!!

    1. tom says:

      speak for yourself, must be othe other way around or she would have lost the election libby

  51. sukibarnstorm says:

    Our children will be asking where we were when the Republican party was claiming that raising the tax rate on the wealthiest 2% of Americans would kill jobs. They will be laughing at us for thinking that individuals create jobs. Because they will understand that corporations create jobs. Oh wait…..the supreme court just declared that corporations are just like individuals. Well, the point is that your average hedge fund manager making 10 million a year is not creating anything, least of all jobs.

    1. tom says:

      actually, 80 percent of employment is thru small companies not large corporations

      1. Say it isn't so Joe! says:

        it was funny when Joe Biden visited an ice cream store and asked the manager of the store what can the US do to help them out.

        the manager of the store replied, lower our taxes…

        Joe replied, “you don’t have be a smart ass” All on NBC news…
        You see, it’s not corporations that are taking a hit from Big Gov’t, small business are too….

  52. Chris says:

    Bachman’s District strength came from workers in the Anoka County area at a time when the economy crashed. People who voted for her were everyday people who were devastated by the failed policies of Bush and Company/ Since the time she was elected, the people who voted for her have been financially crushed. This is why she is running for President: Bachmann must get away from her constituents. She would not be re-elected if she stayed. People are wiseing up to her two-faced logic. Maybe Michelle and Tim will end up in D.C. lobbying for the Koch Bros. in a mansion with a mission to crush the middle-class and make the wealthy weathier. People are waking up!!.

    1. Tanya says:

      I’m a long time Democrat, but after watching 60 minutes I’m a little disappointed. Obama opened up the Gulf to deep water drilling, say it isn’t so! That sounds like a dumb ass republican move. also, the goverment inspection workers, underneath Obama, had the actual workers on the deep oil rigs fill out the inspection forms (with intent of earning a job with the higher paying oil companies) what the hell!

      now government employees ( on 60 minutes) are letting automatic weapons cross the border into Mexico. we need a president who could put a stop to this.

      I’m losing faith in our preident, please help.

  53. Tc Radiodj says:

    This woman is clearly mental! She should be put in a gas chamber! Good god I cannot believe this woman is even allowed to open her mouth! Everytime she does, it gets worse and worse. I cannot fathom the fact that people in Minnesota actually voted her in TWICE! Are you people just as mental!? Good god! I rarely get furious with anyone, but I will put this on the record in saying, if she ever was in front of me and spouted something as revolting as she normally says, I would punch her right in the mouth! I hope you read this Bachmann! You are an absolute disgrace to the people of Minnesota!

    1. Jen says:

      Someone might want to keep an eye on Mr. Tc Radiodj, in case he goes postal.

      1. The Donald says:

        KDWB, is that you?

  54. betty says:

    How can that big mouth use the Halocaust as an example of today’s tax issues. It has NOTHING to do with taxes. It had to do with a regime wanting to do away with all of the undesirables.

    She talks about axes well her government managed healthcare, her salary, is all from taxes. Doesn’t this woman spend any time in her home district? She always is running around the country except in her home district. I bet she is paying for all these trips on the back of the taxpapers, it ain’t coming out of her own pocket.

  55. The Crux of the Biscuit says:

    Put the federal tax rate back as it was in 1950. Cut defense spending in half. Tax all income, earned or otherwise for Social Security. Slap on import duties. End of problems.

    1. John says:

      How about a 15% tax on all Americans except the poor? sounds fair!

      1. Citizen says:

        Define “poor,” John. There’s the problem…..

        1. John says:

          How about what the us already declares poor. Simple

          1. Citizen says:

            @John. Please do enlighten us with that definition. Please quote it.

            1. John says:

              @Citizen
              From Wikipedia….
              The government’s definition of poverty is not tied to an absolute value of how much an individual or family can afford, but is tied to a relative level based on total income received. For example, the poverty level for 2011 was set at $22,350 (total yearly income) for a family of four.[3] Most Americans (58.5%) will spend at least one year below the poverty line at some point between ages 25 and 75.[4] There remains some controversy over whether the official poverty threshold over- or understates poverty.

              Will this work for you?

              1. Citizen says:

                Much better. Now. Do you seriously think a family of four can live on $22,350 total annual income? And since most Americans (58.5%) will spend at least one year below the poverty line, how does that translate into a vibrant, growing economy? I’m through debating this with you because if you read David Cay Johnston’s book “Perfectly Legal” he explains perfectly how a flat tax will not work and will actually hurt poorer citizens. Or you can read articles by him at tax.com Read! It’s good for the mind and keeps you from getting senile.

                1. John says:

                  @ Citizen…
                  Have your ever had to pay 50% in income tax? Guess not…. Enjoy the good life at others expense!

      2. tom says:

        tax the poor also, why should they not pay their way, cut welfare and all other entitlements, deport illegals, 10 percent tax to the feds. 5 percent tax to the states. that leaves everyone with 85 percent. if the government cannot function on that then they need to quit spending alltogether.

        1. HD says:

          HD
          These programs actually cost/ use far less govt $$$$ than the big oil subsidies and tax breaks to wealthy corporations. Again, it’s easy to blame the poor, un-educated and immigrant. God forbid all the Christians in the country would want to try and help any of them. Ugly Americanism at it’s finest. Along with Rush Limbaugh.

  56. Deb says:

    I think her intent or cause is correct, but poor choice of words.

  57. Citizen says:

    “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” Huh???? Makes me seriously wonder who could take offense to this comment below:

    OMG! She is talking again! The questions the next generation will be asking is why, when the U.S. is taxing its citizens to almost the same level as European countries, the U.S. could not provide universal health care, paid maternity leaves, and the standard and quality of living that is in Europe. Especially, the Scandinavian countries. And the answer is…..because the wealthy and corporations are sucking the money out of the bottom 97% of the U.S. population and fortifying their personal and corporate coffers. Corporations are sitting on trillions of dollars and creating no new jobs. The wealthy even admit that they are only getting wealthier and not consuming much–they’ve got it all! And when the rest of the U.S. is sucked dry, the wealthy and the corporations will leave. Oh, wait, I forgot. The corporations are already leaving and have taken the jobs with them. They’ve also offshored their finances. The real question today youth should be asking is why this is being allowed……

  58. Citizen says:

    It is nice to see the GOP and right wingnuts have come out on Sunday morning to refute any liberal comments made on Saturday. Interesting. I thought all those well-meaning, sanctimonious, Bible-thumping Christian conservatives would be in church rather than arguing with us pagan liberals! LOL.

    1. Tom says:

      church is over with devil (obummer) worshiper

  59. richard says:

    Let me get back to the post….bachmann is an idiot!

  60. lewalso says:

    Michelle Bachwards continues her display of ignorance and insensitivity.

  61. The Crux of the Biscuit says:

    Michele Bachmann is an idiot. Another Republican that can’t think and talk at the same time.

  62. The Crux of the Biscuit says:

    Bachmann appeals to that part of the Republican party most would consider intellectual lint.

  63. A E Pasquino says:

    Cutting spending during a recession has a name. Hooverism. It didn’t work from 1929-1933, and it’s not working now, despite all its Republican advocates. The economic crisis was foreseeable. Cut working and middle class incomes for thirty years and taxes from the majority of Americans will decline, and their needs will increase. Reagan and two Bushes made the other mistake of shifting taxes off of the small percentage who earn the majority of the nation’s income. Their incomes have increased and their tax rates have declined. Disparity of incomes is bad for the economy. In our best half century middle class incomes went up and disparities declined, and everyone prospered. Since Reagan this has been systematically reversed. What manufacturer or businessperson would advocate making their customers less prosperous?

  64. Al says:

    Fire Gardenhoser NOW!!

  65. Lisa in Stillwater says:

    I struggle now to find even much in her “right cause” anymore. I’m not sure what her cause is. Is she now just self promoting? Does she truly believe in something? If so – she’s getting to be somewhat inconsistent and back peddling a lot and that leads me to wonder if she even knows what she’s yapping about

  66. Bob says:

    On another matter regarding our Rep. Bachmann.. An excerpt from crooksandliars.com: Michele Bachmann joined Chris Wallace on FNS to discuss many things, including her support of drastically cutting Medicare and Medicaid to seniors. She voted for Paul Ryan’s junk science budget which turns Medicare into a voucher system and she also supports a much worse version of it that was released by a Republican study committee, but then tried to worm her way out of her positions by saying that she is worried seniors will have to pay more for their health care. I guess she does look at polls from time to time. Didn’t seniors overwhelmming support this idiot. You seniors have made your bed and now . . .

  67. jas says:

    Keep anyone talking long enough thier bound to say something stupid. She does make some very valid point. Gov. spending, personal accountability, and leadership.

  68. jas says:

    She does make some valid points in dealing with gov. spending, personal accountability, and leadership.

  69. FREE MONEY OVER HERE!!! says:

    Now that I have all of you liberals attention. There is a new diet on the market, and it has outstanding results. It costs only ten cents. You only have to follow it once. It’s gauranteed that everyone around you will be jumping for joy with your results.

    It’s called the bullet diet. You should eat one as soon as you can!!!

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