MN Tribe Lends $20M To Neb. Tribe For Casino Upgrade

NIOBRARA, Neb. (AP) — An Indian tribe in Minnesota is loaning $20 million to the Santee Sioux Tribe to pay for improvements to its casino in northeast Nebraska.

The Santee Sioux Tribe plans to use the money to build a new 25,000-square-foot Ohiya Casino and a new 50-room hotel east of Niobrara. A new golf course would also be built as part of the project.

The loan comes from the Shakopee Mdewakanton Sioux Community, which operates Mystic Lake Casino in Prior Lake, Minn., has other enterprises and runs a charitable giving program.

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  • Kevin Mathena

    Isn’t it nice that an Indian tribe from Minnesota can lend $20mil to an Indian tribe in Nebraska but we can’t get a dime of state taxes from them? They have money to burn and Minnesota is shut down. Time for state run and owned casino’s and racino’s? I think so. Most other businesses in this country have competition why not the Indian casino’s? Our elected officials say if we open casino’s then people are going to gamble and we will have big problems. HELLO, there’s a casino within almost 50 miles from where ever you are and people are gambling and the casino’s are getting bigger. Think about it…

    • Tonto Kowalski

      “Isn’t it nice that an Indian tribe from Minnesota can lend $20mil to an Indian tribe in Nebraska but we can’t get a dime of state taxes from them? They have money to burn and Minnesota is shut down.”

      Not their problem, Kevin.

      I can’t believe you’re actually suggesting we forcibly rip their profits away from them, keep it for ourselves, and use it to deal with the MN budget issue. Amazing. Simply amazing. You have no shame.

      • Jake

        So, Tonto, you love machine you, are you suggesting that the same rule applies to all other businesses and individuals? I mean, aren’t we “ripping their profits away from them” to fund our state programs? You have no logic.

        A lot of people don’t know this, but my family was run off its land by the Soviets a couple generations ago. I would like to have a monopoly on selling liquor as a way of paying me back for the transgressions of earlier generations. It would be a nice way of limiting liquor sales, because we all know how liquor, like gambling, causes lots of problems.

        • Tonto Kowalski

          No. I’m saying we don’t have a dog in that race. The Native Americans’ Casino cash doesn’t belong to Minnesotans, and the Minnesotan government can’t decide that they should get money from the Native American casinos either. It doesn’t work that way. That was my point.

          Yeah, and some of my family fled the Nazis and worked for the U.S. while trapped in Germany too, until they could escape. We aren’t considering asking them for land plots or concessions off the sale of St. Pauli Girl now.

    • Ogie Oglethorpe

      Why should they? They don’t owe MN taxes for casinos. YOU think about it.

  • Middle of the road

    Before people take off on this, you hve to read up on “the trail of tears.” Many of the indians on reservatiosn across about 8 states came from the 1861 up rising in MN and were marched to these other reservations. So they are only helping out their cousins. Of course to pay a little in taxes would only help the community that they live, but of course they do not care about where their money comes from, as long as they keep collecting year after year for nothing more than being born part Indian.

  • Yep

    Hopefully our state can get in on some of the action.

    • Tonto Kowalski

      In what way?

      It isn’t Minnesota’s “action” to “get in on.”

  • Inyan Walkin Elk

    Which part bothers you more? The fact that there’s no racino? Or the fact that these Native Americans are successful & independent thus helping other tribes achieve a similar status? If you ever read up on treaty law, which I’m going to go out on a limb & say you haven’t, then you would know that much of the tax rights were granted under these treaties. Also nearly all other conditions & promises stated in the same treaties were not honored. It appears some citizens would rather have the ‘indian stereotypes’reinforced than independent and successful Minnesotans.

    • Middle of the road

      Inyan Walkin Elk, I have read the compacts, they allow 150K a year from all Indian casinos to pay for oversight and that is it. There is no tax payment agreements and the only way to add that is for both sides to agree to reopen negotiations. there is language that allows the State to open more gambling up in the state and IF YOU HAVE READ the compacts, you would know that language is very vague. Meaening it does nto specifically block other private entities from beign allowed to open up a casino nor does it forbid the state from expanding into slots.

      • Tonto Kowalski

        The Native Americans don’t owe MN government a GD thing.

        MN has a budget problem. The Native American tribes living in MN do not. That isn’t the tribe’s issue to deal with.

        • Jake

          This is true. So, the state should just permit a few other entities to open casinos that are subject to taxation. The tribes can run their casinos free of taxes, and the market will do what it does.

  • we

    Everyone needs to pay taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Tonto Kowalski

      Native American casinos are not responsible for bailing out the state of MN and to say they should is completely ignorant of reality and facts.

  • whatever

    I pay taxes why cant they??? they live in the state enough said

    • KELLY

      We and Whatever ~ It is not the Natives fault the state is in this mess. So stop blaming them ! Also if the Rep would sign the bill and tax the rich 2% and raise taxes on cigs it would help us some get out of this mess. 2% is not going to hurt the rich much at all. Again it is not the Natives fault it’s the states fault we are in this mess.

    • Tonto Kowalski

      No they don’t. They live in a sovereign nation, and are not subject to state or federal tax. Most of us learned this in about 5th or 6th grade.

      • Middle of the road

        I agree 100%. And so we should allow people like Don Laughlin to open up say 5 metro casinos and then we have control over him, since they will not be on sovereign nationl. He has offered in the past and will willingly pay taxes at a guaranteed rate. Look at all the $$$ MN sendsd to Las Vega and all the other Money we can collect from visitors.

      • mom

        do they not drive on hwys, streets, use the public school system. Do they go to the malls, fish public lakes, etc etc.Do any of these people living on the reservations get public assistance? they do live in minnesota not just on the reservation. To say that they don’t live in Minnesota is just a silly statement and if that is true they shouldn’t be allowed to go anywhere but the reservation because according to you they don’t use any of the govt funded services.

        • 82nd Airborne

          Try to understand reality.

          They have treaty rights.
          They owe us no taxes.
          They govern themselves on the reservation.

          You can’t change that and suddenly force them to also pay MN taxes just because you’re jealous that they don’t and you do.

  • Janice

    Yep, they don’t have to pay taxes on land AND get free health care fom the US government

    • 82nd Airborne

      Wow, what a deal. And all they had to do was give up EVERYTHING in return.

      What a fantastic bargain they got from the good, honest white men.

  • Kelly

    Who cares if they do or do not pay taxes. The bottem line is it is not the Natives fault the state is in the situation they are in right now. It is the states fault and stop blaming them. It’s the people that ran the state in the past. That’s why we are in this mess.

  • Kelly

    It is actually nice they lend people money it creates jobs. HELLO!

  • Justdon'tgo

    Silly indians you do realize your loan is basicly an investment and if the government realizes your stake in this casino it will cause deep regulations on you, listen every indian can llive 100 years or pass away in 5minutes neither has any bearing on my life. My only hang-up with this is they will help another reservation if it can make them wealthy, but they will not help a tribe that is poor, oh ok i know they threw a few bucks to a few poor tribes, such saints, like everything in life things change, If 1 pocket isn’t greased enough things will change, so i hope they do invest their money wisely because id rather not start supporting them again as prior to the casinos, so many people are so mad about casinos, just don’t go, i go maybe once a year and its usually after bar close becuse their still open and we’re all smashed.

    • The Architect

      If you’re going to waste your time posting a comment, have it at least have a point.

      • Tyrell

        There is several points, perhaps if you wern’t a line cook you’d understand them simpleton.

  • billy

    WOW….so many ignorant people. Pick up a text book sometime before speaking. First and foremost, from what I read on these posts, the Natives are damed if they do and damed if they dont. Big banks dont help those tribes that are not as fortunate so they must rely on sister tribes to help them. It is business. I am sure that Shakopee isnt just giving them money, and if they are, good for them. Secondly, Native Americans DO PAY TAXES. They pay federal tax on any and all income. They are however exempt from State taxes ONLY if they receive their income from the Tribe AND live on the reservation. If they live off reservation, their incomes are taxed by the State. I see it this way, they took the chance on their business, took no handouts from you to build it, they pay top wages from what I understand and they pay for their own expenses, roads, bridges, water and sewer, power generation, etc. The Mall of America gets tax breaks, Canterbury doesnt pay any gaming taxes, (look it up, they actually dont pay taxes on their revenue) Big Box corporations are getting tax free breaks everyday….the states problem is with the LEGISLATURE, not the Indians, not the Governor, but the legislatures, who are STILL COLLECTING A PAYCHECK and conveniently took off a long weekend during a State shutdown…..AIM YOUR ANGER AT THEM.

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