Dayton, GOP Leaders Reach Deal To End Gov’t Shutdown

ST. PAUL (WCCO) — Gov. Mark Dayton and GOP leaders have reached an agreement to end the two-week-long government shutdown, hours after the governor agreed to accept the republican’s budget offer.

Dayton said Thursday that he wants to end the government shutdown for the good of the state.

“During the past two weeks, I have been listening to the people throughout Minnesota. They are telling me that, overwhelmingly, they want this budget dispute resolved,” Dayton stated in a letter to GOP leaders.

The two sides met in Dayton’s office at 2 p.m. The deal was announced just after 5 p.m. The offer still needs legislative approval. Dayton said he is prepared to call a special session within the next three days.

Dayton said he would accept the republican budget offer, which was presented on June 30, with three conditions — that all social policy language be removed, that they pass a $500 million construction projects bill and that all language regarding union’s collective bargaining rights also be removed.

Dayton also wanted to see the GOP drop a plan to reduce the state workforce by 15 percent.

“We must concentrate our efforts on reaching the budget agreements that will return Minnesota to work, not on continuing disagreements over issues on which we do not agree,” Dayton stated in the letter.

Both sides agreed on a proposal to raise $1.4 billion in new revenue, half by delaying state aid checks to schools districts and the other half by selling tobacco payment bonds.

Dayton said he describes the current harsh Minnesota political climate as a “civil war.”

He had long proposed to raise top-tier income taxes — the richest 2 percent, or the richest 0.3 percent of all Minnesota taxpayers — but has since dropped his proposal, stating that anything that continues a government shutdown would be far more damaging.

A statewide government shutdown began July 1, marking the longest state shutdown in Minnesota’s history — and the longest state shutdown in the nation in the past decade. The shutdown put 22,000 state employees out of work, stalled 100 road construction projects, barricaded state parks and halted numerous government-run services and programs.

The shutdown also closed historical sites and rest stops, shut down the state lottery, made it difficult for residents to get a driver’s license and halted the issuance of hunting and fishing licenses.

Dayton’s agreement comes one day after Miller, Coors and other popular beers faced a possible threat of disappearing from Minnesota liquor stores and bars, due to the government shutdown. The brewing giant MillerCoors lacked proper licensing to sell its products that expired last month and wouldn’t have been able to renew until state employees were reinstated.

  • mll

    I have some respect for you now Dayton.

    • Going down

      Brilliant move!!

      • ItsTheSpendingStupid

        Clear to see what SPECIAL INTERESTS Dayton was holding out for Gays and Public Sector Unions. Glad we had this debate!

        • John

          No Stupid, actually it is the side that thinks they have the moral high ground and is obsessed on the types of sexual relationships people decide to have that is causing the problem. The Republicans want to control fiscal policy, fine, but what is it with their obsession on interjecting their closed minded social issues into the fray? Just what do you know Stupid that makes you so superior in how people should live and what choices they should be able to make? It is not good enough you can live your life in the manner you like, you think you have the right to make sure others are also. I mean does it keep you up at night? Are you in danger? Get over yourself as you mean very little to anything.

          • ItsTheSpendingStupid

            John “interjecting their social issues into the fray” you mean like trying change 5000 years of how marriage is defined?

            And dont kid yourself – you tell people how to live their lives everyday, our laws are based upon common moral judgements.

            • th

              Letting other people believe in what they want doesn’t hurt you or your beliefs. If all you so called religious people would stop trying to push your beliefs onto everyone else the world would be a better place. What other people believe should not hurt you. Oh I forgot, if gays can get married it is going to ruin everyone elses marriage. What a crock

              • Really?

                I guess the agnostics and atheists who are also dems no doubt, sueing Rick Perry in TX to stop his prayer service, is OK? Liberals are not tolerant of others. They can abort helpless babies but hate war? The irony is rich indeed!!

            • Gardoglee

              Marriage has long been defined as a part of law to ensure that property rights are maintained, primarily rights to land inheritance and to women as chattle. Most of that 5,000 years of marriage has been about land rights, although it also included rights to the serfs/thralls/slaves/whatever-term-was-in-use-at-the-particular-time-and-culture. Only in the past 200 or so years have we interjected anything else. Study your history and your law.

            • ItsTheSpendingStupid

              We agree whole heartedly, lets not push our beliefs (or our Gay agenda) onto everyone else. If you agree to stop indoctrinating my 2nd grade child in school, forcing my co-workers into “tolerance camps”, and pull back a little on the thought police – the right might stand down on DOMA a bit.

              • chris m

                “If you agree to stop indoctrinating my 2nd grade child in school, forcing my co-workers into “tolerance camps””

                I agree to that only if you take your Thorazine like a good little boy

          • waste

            I ran for school board in my local town. Due to the economy we were facing a large deficit.
            The unions wouldn’t budge, even though their benefits are greatly out of proportion from what the private sector is doing, they held firm. What can a small school board do against a multi-million dollar organization?
            Therefore, we had to let teachers go.
            One of the teachers we let go was an excellent, young teacher. This teacher was definitely one of the best teachers in the school.
            But due to tenure, we had to let one of the best teachers go and hold onto some of the worst old teachers.
            This is what is wrong with unions.
            They say they want the best for our children, NOT TRUE, they want more money$$$$

            • just think

              Now were talking. This whole mess were in goverment shut downs our federal goverment threatening to take away socail security checks. people out to only think of themselves and how much money they can make. Greed my friend is one of the 7 deadly sins. and we are all deep in it. Our economy our broke ass economy will not improve till we as people stop being selfish and start caring about others start helping our neibors and i mean our neighbors the ones that live next door to us. We need to start caring, start loving, start helping make america what it once was. Money is not everything………

              • Gardoglee

                So if money is not everything, why is it that so much money is spent convincing us to let the people with the most money keep theirs?

              • Dwane????

                We need to start paying attention to who we are voting for and look into their past to see who he or she is really all about, their beliefs and what is the most important things to them. Not someone blowing hot air up our ass’s. I also believe that we don’t need that many people in the goverment. We could get treated this bad by half as many idiots as their is now. The stupidest thing I ever seen was this light rail. This is all about money, this shut down, so why are we spending 900.000.000.00 on some stupid light rail that maybe 20% of us will ever use. I don’t get it ? Our state needs the money right now.

            • DBB

              Well said…..teachers unions are far too powerful!

            • teacher

              Aren’t we all. The unions are not to blame, I haven’t had a real raise in 15 years. If the administrators do their job you can get rid of bad teachers. Most don’t have the balls to do it. Tenure protects us from poor board members and bad administrators. Most of you can’t be trusted!!

          • Gay Superiority Rules

            Like teaching social issues in schools is not an agenda that has been pushed by the so called “open minded?” It’s not about superiority…it’s about “having” a moral code…which when there is no black and white and everything turns grey…then what???

            • Sean

              You learn to make decisions by thinking things through rather than listening to talk radio

    • pretzeldude

      I wonder who the Dr was that cured him of his cranial rectal inversion.
      Must have been a lot pop when he was cured.

      • Randy

        You’d get worried to if you supply of booze was running short. I hear Dayton only drinks miller.

      • KeepItReal

        None of his demands/conditions will actually be met. It is interesting that he is at least looking like he is helping he unions that bought his govern-she-ship. He finally realize that ALL of MN wants lower taxes, less waste and no more free-loading state workers. This will be the only good decision he makes and will be voted out at the earliest possible opportunity….how about a recall right now. Dayton is a putz!

      • jordanj

        Dayton was visiting MN towns this week and I think the people of Minnesota told him that getting back to work was the most important issue. So he listened.

    • Really?

      Agree! I knew Dayton would run scared, I just thought it would be sooner!!! This is TOO FUNNY!!!!!! But old Mark didn’t seem as drugged up today?

    • mysticrose

      I wonder if the Teapublicans will accept the deal. They would have to give up all their plans for remaking the State in their image, meaning no social agenda. I don’t know if they care enough about the State to actually accept Gov. Daytons deal. I have always thought that you can tell a Democrat by the size and depth of their heart and Teapublicans by the absense of any kind of beating heart. How do you like my new name for the Republican party? The teabaggers control and run the republican party now. So forget about Science, Health Care, caring for the poor, actually anything that is for the good of the people of our State.

    • Stan

      No surpirse for me! Gov. Dayton has quit many times in his life and this time is no exception – he gave up too soon. I have lost all respect from him and the DFL leadership. I will remember this the next time I vote!!!!

  • Jon Lindquist

    *prepares for another two weeks of a shutdown*

    • Kathy

      I don’t agree with the person named Going Down. There is nothing brilliant or genius about this concession. In fact, I’m not a particularily bright person, and I predicted this exact outcome.

      We need a little transparency here. Who exactly are the people that wrote to Governor Dayton and applied such tremendous pressure that all is forgiven the Republicans?

      What is the actual count? Reveal the names. If they become our voice, I want to know why the rest of us were not not notified that our thoughts will be the deciding factor.


      The outcome here is ACT IIII in the STAGED PERFORMANCE of a play that was intended to make it appear very different than it really was. i’M NOT A SCRIPT WRITER, but I knew how this would end from the time of open, and the response I received in my letter to Governor Dayton.

      “Governor Dayton will be working very hard to meet an agreement and prevent a shutdown.,” she wrote. (assistant)

      She did not say that the governor would be working very hard to bring balance and just pursuit to the citizens of Minnesotal










      • shrugged

        Lady this isn’t over yet. When it is, take time to grieve and realize that this isn’t all about you.

        • Kathy



          • shrugged

            Well, Kathy. I actually took the time to read that entire letter you composed, unlike most others would be able to tolerate. And, instead of making you feel worse–point by point–I summed it up simply. Act of deception? Beer was the only thing threatening? I have to stop cuz I’m getting bored again. It’s called compromise Kathy, you can’t always get what you want, you can try sometimes, ya just might find…ya get what ya need. Prazac may help in the following weeks of government trickery. But, the outcome will be the outcome–regardless.

          • Weed Can Save Us

            Ahhh where do you people come from.. do you even have any clue as to how any of this really works?.. nope so lets just type in CAPS

          • M B

            As a person who’s used the internet for over 20 years now, before most even knew it existed, let me give you a bit of a pointer:
            There are only two things that ALL CAPS are used for in internet conversations:
            1) putting emphasis on a word or two, MAYBE a phrase at most.
            Which do you suppose you appear to be doing? It’s the same as running into a crowded room of people and having a screaming fit of epic proportions, the only thing saving you from total public embarrassment is the anonymity of the internet.

            You may be angry, but you just came off as a screaming loon. Try toning it down next time.

          • Huh?!?!?

            You’re point isn’t being taken by anyone, you need to get to your point without ranting. You’ve wasted more space here than dozens of other people put together. If you don’t know how to type in the proper more-readable case, how about you don’t waste the space?
            What I have to say to you is Dayton still is a saint compared to heartless and sometimes brainless Pawlenty. Dayton has been trying to stick to the campaign promises he made, but given Republicans not compromising in the least, and instead added even more, some totally non-budget related items. It is only getting worse, so Dayton is willing to give more than he should to stop the insanity. It really is like a civil war that the Republicans declared (although class war may be the more proper term).

            • jordanj

              Dayton is a saint? Kathy, you are delusional! You voted with your heart, not your head. Get it right the next time.

          • Ed Zimmerman

            Kathy do you live in Minnesota, If you don’t like it leave & find that it’s going on all over the county.

            • DTM

              Eddy, typical ignorant respose from a GOP’er…Great retort. Really put a lot of thought into that response, didn’t you ed…

          • Alida Miller Adams

            Learn how to spell **you’re.

            • dub

              Oh good, grammar police Alida is here to save the day

            • Slow down Teach

              WOOOAH!!! Slow’s a message board!!!! NOT a grammar test!

      • Bipartisanship

        I agree, Kathy. With your first (and only good) point that you are not particularily bright .

        • Wu

          Yes! That actually made me laugh out loud! Hmm… should I have wrote that in all caps?

      • Carol

        Pawlenty is the dumb person that got the STATE of Minnesota in debt in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also Pawlenty took away a lot of things from Senior Citizans here in the STATE. Gov. Dayton is doing the best he can with what he has to work with!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • dan

          I hear he is headed off to the Wizard of Oz for a brain

      • shrugged

        See Kathy, I actually took it pretty easy on ya with my first response. This isn’t a support group, nobody holds hands here. It’s more like a shark tank. So, step away from the computer and vow to not do this to yourself. Okay, I’m gonna hang up now.

  • Chuck

    Gee, looks like the Governor is willing to compromise AGAIN, let’s see if the Republicans really want a settlement or if their social issues are what it is all about!

    • Lil Joe

      Good luck expecting the PAG arm of the TEA movement to surrender. Pray Away Gays is the renewed nemesis driving these folks to “save America”. Then with the ‘Pledge’ to destroy unions……as I say Good Luck

    • Disappointed in humanity

      You all make me sick, the pathetic bickering you all are engaging in is the reason we are in this position in the first place. Forget who belongs to what party and lets make some decisions that are good for the majority of people. It’s not about if you are red or blue, it’s about doing what is right… something many of you have forgotten. God help us all.

    • Going down

      The reason this is so smart, is it puts the wedge issues back on the republicans. They thought they’d get it all, but now either they don’t get their wedge junk or they lose even worse in 2012.

      Nice move!!

      • Citizen

        @Going down. It is smart. If the GOP rejects the proposal it will be because of the social engineering issues or adding $500 million to provide jobs. Both are win issues for the governor and will put the GOP in the position of rejecting a bill that does not raise taxes (their big sticking point) yet balances the budget. We will get to see their true colors. Very smart chess move on Governor Dayton’s part.

        • shrugged

          Hold on there Citizen, the way I read that, “$500 million construction projects bill…to get MN back to work”–1st thing I thought was…Vikings.

        • Billy


          Nice Chess Move? Thats like stepping in dog poop and saying I tried to do that.

  • MN Concerned Citizen

    @ MN Resident
    The odds are good that this is Dayton’s last politcal career. He’ll either quit before his term is up (like he did as a Senator) or he’ll put MN through 3 more years of he double hockey sticks, and he won’t get reelected.

    • MN Resident

      After the behavior of the current elected Republicans, do you really believe they will be reelected next year? They are the ones that refuse to comprise and they are the ones that did not do their job during regular session but played games with social issues.

      I have been pleasantly surprised at how well Dayton has done, better than I expected.

      • Cindy

        If this report is accurate, the GOP won so I would guess their voters would be happy except for the increased budget.

        Dayton totally failed again, as is consistent with his past performance

        • WE

          Koch brothers win agin.

          • Koch is better than you

            Sure I guess…

            Some people are just better than you and always will be

            • WE

              They might be RICHER BUT NOT BETTER

          • what ever

            shut up….what a stupid out of place comment…..

        • Dionne

          I wouldn’t say the GOP won. They would still need to make changes to their proposal and agree on the conditions Gov. Dayton set. If this goes through, this would be a good example of compromising.

      • dan

        MN Resident,
        A consistent failure in life. Teacher, not welcome in the family businees, deemed the worst Senator and now Govenor.
        I guess if you consider he made it 2 weeks until he folded like a napkin, sure vote for him again if that is all you look for in your representatives.

        • dub

          He opted out of the family business. Would you have done the same? I doubt it.. And he was a terrific state auditor – at a salary of $1/year. My guess you would never do that – no matter how much your family had in the bank.
          Jealous much?

          • dan

            They wouldnt let him into the family business. This guy is a complete failure at everything he does. If it wasnt for his name and the fact he is a Democrat that has bought every office he has ran for he would still be a tenured teacher that nobody wants.

            • dub

              ok danny, you keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better….is it working yet?

        • Dave Campbell

          I just spoke with a friend well connected in health care. He says that the GOP budget will result in over 1500 full time jobs lost in the health care industry. Is this how the GOP creates jobs? The work load will still be there. It’s the reimbursement that will decline resulting in job losses.

          • dan

            How is this the GOP budget? Didnt we just compromise? The GOP did not get everything they have asked for. Love how you Dem spin the truth. So you are telling us we will see BCBS or Allina laying off people in the next few months? Doubt it!

      • Dicky

        I voted for Dayton. After this announcement and past wimping out by the left side, I’m just not voting anymore. It’s that simple. They don’t represent my views, they don’t need my vote. This is the last time I am going to put up with their promises and then they wimp out and leave us in a lurch.
        We had good reason to be able to defeat the republicans in the next election. Now, with this offer, Dayton has just handed them the next election on a golden platter.

      • Bill

        Can’t wait till next year when we can throw the rest of the liberal socialist dems out of office

    • Me

      The GOP will destroy this state. The middle class will not make it.

      • Brad

        @ Me,

        Sounds like you either have to become upper class or lower class then. Which one will you choose? Probably the easiest (poor). Get off the couch and get an education and make something of yourself.

      • Bud

        I am middle class and am so sick and tired of paying for Dayton and the DEMS out of control spending, more and more demands by government workers/teachers for higher incomes, more benefits, more demands for social give-aways than I can afford for my own employees. Suck it up ME, get off the dole and be a productive member of society. Once you become middle class, you will have a legitimate beef about government not those of us who are carrying you.

        • Me

          Mark my words you will see!

        • Claire

          Its called getting your finances in order in case something happens. Life, disibility and health insurance are the basics to protecting you and your family. Reasonable if you are eating peanuts, out driving around in your beamer or smoking its up to you to protect you and your family, not the rest of society

          • Gardoglee

            Claire, I always thought I was being responsible by having health insurance (always the premium option even if it cost me more), disability insurance and life insurance and the like. I was stably employed at a major company in a growing industry. And then one day I discovered how much of the expense from an unexpected medical emergency was not covered even by my premium health insurance, what might happen to one’s career progress if one was suddenly away from their job for an extended period of recovery (even with six months of banked sick leave days), how the disability insurance cut off immediately when the doctor said I could return to work for one half day each week (you don’t get full salary for half a day a week) and how quickly a stable financial picture could degenerate into chaos. Don’t delude yourself into thinking it could not happen to you even if you have been responsible and planned ahead. Real life often brings different things than what you planned for.

            • Dennie

              thank you for that….I was wondering if some of the posts were from people who never had a financially devastating problem happen to them. I am super responsible but due to health issues with my child am living in a very tricky situation. No family member and certainly no church people have offered me housing or a job that works with his needs. He is alive and I am thankful but, wow, finances are a struggle and it is not from being irresponsible. Bad things happen to responsible people too. I actually had to go to a food shelf once this year. I cried the whole way home. Some day soon I will go back to being a donor I hope.

        • Linda Jones

          I respectfully disagree. Speaking as someone who works for a living, and also attends college full-time, I think those who are “carrying us” (?) better step off the high horse and actually do something worthwhile instead of degrading those who actually represent most of the State population.

          • Bud

            Linda, I thank you for your respectful response and civil discourse but you are not being “carried.” In the interim, you may need some tax breaks or assistance to help you and I’m all for that. You are working toward the future – with a goal to support yourself and better yourself and your family. It’s the folks who sit back and DEMAND their ever increasing freebies that I have a problem with not the folks like you who are working toward a goal. I support you 100%!

            • mj

              You go Bud. 100% correct

              • just saying

                I think people also need to remember that the government workers that have to regulate this also have to work within the laws that the legislature sets I’m sure that many government workers don’t necessarily like all the laws either, but they have to work within them. And for all the people that want to talk about welfare fraud, just remember, fraud is at all levels. I have two names for you – Tom Petters and Denny Hecker. And those are not the only two well off people that commit fraud.

                • also just sayin

                  Petters and Hecker are in prison where they belong.

                • just saying

                  also just saying – if you think that people aren’t also sitting in jail for welfare fraud, you’re sadly mistaken, just search the news and you will find plenty of stories. True, I’m sure there are many people that get away with it, but there also many more Petters and Hecker stories out there too that are getting away with stuff. And when people are aware of people committing fraud, they should do the responsible thing and turn them in. People want to talk about how they know someone committing fraud and complain about how wrong it is, but no one wants to turn them in.

              • DTM

                mj, you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about do you? “More people they can sign up for welfare, the more govt. workers.”….You really believe that? Come spend a day with someone with Ramsey County Eligibility…moron.

                • mj

                  DTM, You must work for Ramsey Co. Now tell us how you are overworked. P.S. I wont call you names.

                • DTM

                  mj, I never mentioned that I was overworked. But terrific rebuttal, you really provided solid evidence for your assertion that “more people they can sign up for welfare, the more govt. workers.”

                  I am humbled by your vastly superior debating prowess…kudos to you!

            • Utopia

              Never met one of “those” people and neither have you…….

              • Randy

                You should come down to the west 7th neighborhood. We can walk down my alley and you can find plenty of “those” people they drink steele reserve and I call the ambulance when they can’t stay awake and make out of the alley.

            • Had enough

              Bud, you are absolutely correct. I am all for people getting some assistance when they need it but when I see a group of people crawl out of an Cadillac to buy the newest High definition T.V. from Best Buy and then go to Cub Foods and buy pop and snacks using food stamps that is enough to tick anyone off. It has become a way of life for many people. It isn’t going to change unless cuts are made and welfare fraud is kept in check. The more money we pay in taxes the more the democrats are going to want. Why as a hard working, college attending person do I have to keep my spending in check and drive an old beater car while someone on welfare can drive a fancy expensive car and have the newest electronics. Seems to some people that is only fair. Why??

              • SO SAD

                Which comes down to government employees not doing their jobs. Doesn’t matter which party you belong to. Why are people on welfare for as long as they have been? Why do they get food stamps for as long as they have? Why are they living in Section 8 housing for as long as they been? I thought the programs were to be temporary, not a way of life. Government workers do you job!!!

                • mj

                  More people they can sign up for welfare, the more govt. workers.

            • Deenie

              I am honestly asking…not being rude. What programs have increased??? where?? I do understand the frustration when there is abuse of public resources but having worked to help people find resources for many years I have to wonder where these increasing freebies are?

        • Bud

          That’s one thing about the middle class – they always crawl back and don’t stop until they do. Not sit and brood and weep poor me while waiting for a the dole. Dole is not only welfare fool – dole is paying for someone else’s benefits such as government workers health care and retirement. It is paying for the social security to a government that raided the money and left an IOU there. I pay my own and my employees healthcare and they share in the costs and it’s more than the government workers. No I’m not one DUI away from or other situation you have listed because I have taken the bull by the horns and set things up so my family is taken care of should something happen to me. It’s called responsibility and it begins with me and I’m proud of it!!!

          • dub

            @Bud….No, many in the middle class experience a misfortune and do not “always crawl back” Where do you get this? Take your blinders off, bud, and look around.

        • eric

          “out of control” You repeat talking points having no clue what you mean.

        • This Bud's for you

          Bud, why don’t you take time and look around for the success stories instead of listening to White Man Trash Talk Radio for your political feed. Spend a day at Mary’s place talking to the homeless, volunteer at Vail Place in Minneapolis and get to know some of the people who struggle with mental health issues. Really listen to the people who find themselves in disparate situations and hear how they have the same dreams nd aspirations as you have Bud. Volunteer to drive a person who doesn;t have a car to job interviews or even help them write their resume. If you have the resources help sponsor a person in need with some of there vocational training tuition. If enough Bud’s will do this Minnesota will be a better place.

          • Bud

            How do you know I don’t volunteer? So if I volunteer for your little pet projects than I’m okay? Here’s a thought……where do you suppose the money/items comes from for Mary’s/Vail place, Joseph’s Coat, Little Sisters of the Poor, Meals on Wheels etc.? Where does the medical care come from that these folks can have free of charge? Monetary donations from companies/employees such as mine as well as doctor’s/clinics so you don’t have a corner on the market of selfless time share.

            • frozenrunner

              Yes but what time do you of yourself to others, Your post would lead me to believe very little. It is a far different working with people. You are talking of giving money or goods and staying far away from people who’s lives are different than yours. Sometimes it is about learning more about a group of people. That would also be true for some of the liberals to understand that all conservatives are not like the leaders of the party.

            • joe

              I agree with frozen runner. It is far different donating money through work than actually volunteering at one of these places. I challenge you Bud to make a commitment to volunteer at one of these places 3 hours aweek. I gaurentee that your perspective will change. Plan a volunteer project through your HR dept and go down and help serve meals, help the homeless. In the process listen to where they came from and what their dreams are. They are not unlike you or I.

              • Jackie

                I think ALL American citizens should be required to volunteer 200 hours out of their lives at a non-profit agency. I think that’ll bring a little better perspective for people.

                • KM

                  Then it wouldn’t be “volunteer” would it? The schools now even require students to have a certain amount of “volunteer” hours before they can graduate.

                • mj

                  Cry me a river Jackie.

          • chad

            Those aren’t the people we are worried about. It’s those that have established a life syle of sitting on their butts and receiving a check because they can. I mean geez why would you wanna work for a living, oh i know why because you are lazy and the government systems have made people rely on government to provide…….oh wait that would be me and the others like me that actually pay taxes every year.

            And by the way, on the “one accident away from having my family broke and on state aide” i have done things, in which i am paying for, to take care of my family if that were to happen. I sure as heck dont want my family having to rely on the governemnt. It’s to bad that there are those whom do not think the same way

            • mj

              chad, glad to see you and Bud use some common sense. I know families that are 3 generations of welfare.

              • JOE

                We need to do what Mich. just did which was to limit the length of time you can be on welfare to 4 years.

                • Stop Welfare

                  Joe, 4 years is way too long, 2 years is more than enough, Just look at all the illegals on welfare, Also all the somallians that the churches brought into our country are on welfare and also tax free for 7 years. They get free schooling while our kids try to work for minimum wage because we could not afford to send them to school, Time to stop welfare for non citizens, Wcco reported that our state has over 40 percent of all samillians living on our tax dollarsa

                • DTM

                  @Stop Welfare…..Where are you pulling those ridiculuos numbers from? The churches brought the Somalias here, the Somolians are on welfare tax free for 7 years? What in the world are you talking about? ‘m sure you can provide evidence to these claims, correct?
                  And illegals on welfare…how many? Do you have any real idea or do you just like throwing out inane statistics with no basis?

            • Jackie

              Let me know what kind of lavish lifestyle can be lived off of $437/month? Ignorance is not bliss, poverty hurts us ALL

              • Fact

                Thats $437 that could have gone to someone that deserves it because they worked for it

              • mj

                Jackie, you can’t be that ignorant.

              • KR

                But that $437 a month goes further when only 30% goes towards rent (section 8), food is covered by MFIP, medical is covered by MA, utility assistance, etc.

                I would have less of a gripe about one single system–my issue is the number of programs, and the number of employees required to administer them.

                • Jackie

                  Believe me, I’m not ignorant. What is ignorant is to believe that ANYONE would WANT to commit to having a life of living on government money, you don’t get a raise nor do you get anything close to being able to live a comfortable lifestyle. The purpose of government aid is for people who are having trouble getting employment due to various factors albeit discrimination (having a “black” name makes you 50% less likely to be called for a job interview), disability, no access to transportation, education etc. I know many people on here who spew the stereotypes of people on government programs have never worked with people or been in the position to need government aid, so believe me when I say most people on aid would LOVE to get off and be securely employed. PLEASE tell me where the jobs are and I will gladly send my clients there to perform the hard work they are willing to do so that they may feed their families and send their kids to college. Until MN engages in fair hiring, education, and funding practices we are going to see more and more poverty. I want to also mention, the actual percentage of welfare fraud by individual citizens PALES in comparison to corporate fraud on the State level AND federal level. It never ceases to amaze me how people are so easily distracted from the REAL problems hindering our precious U.S. of A from excelling. Keep worrying about the $437 families get to try and stay ALIVE and we’ll be watching our country sink to the bottom of the ocean.

                  Fact: Only 20% of Minnesotan’s who qualify for food stamps receive them.

                  I am a woman who has a college degree and 2 jobs. I still have to utilize state aid (childcare, medical, and energy assistance) so that me and my family can stay afloat and so I can keep working hard at my non-profit jobs so that there can be less homeless children and pregnant women on the streets of MN. I don’t want to be punished for not working at a for-profit business and making a wage that would not require I be government assistance, rather, I find my happiness trying to help the people of MN who are less fortunate than myself and many other Minnesotans out there.

                  Btw, I also believe there is a desperate need for government reform, but it means more than cutting, cutting, cutting the lifelines of human beings.

            • Dennie

              I am so overwhelmed by all of this so please dont eat me up too badly. These are the situations used as an excuse to justify cuts to programs for those who really need them. I am a single mom to a severely disabled child whom I adopted from foster care. I never in my life thought I’d be forced to stop working to care for him. Look, Im just doing what a mom does…I gave up all benefits including medical care for myself and cashed in all retirement to care for him. We live a very modest lifestyle and get by because I am a family care giver paid a salary through his MA waiver. Cuts to MA programs like family caregiving and programs for traumatic brain injuries were specifically stated as targets by the legislature and those are the issues in my family. Rates for those who care for people with disabiliteis and the elderly are based on PCA rates which are not what one would call middle class. But it is above poverty and we do not qualify for reduced housing or food stamps etc. And I am not saying I want that, just that we are too low income to buy insurance and even food sometimes, but too high income to qualify for any assistance. Now they are saying there should be another reduction in this rate, this time by 30%! No dramatic effect here, I will for sure lose my apt and have to pay fines for breaking the lease to boot. Not to mention the toll it will take on my son who is Autistic and severely brain injured from a tumor. There is no child care for me to put him in and no babysitter willing to be hit, kicked or bitten once in a while. Yet he has made such amazing progress and has potential that will be at risk if this happens. I will be forced to make a decision as to whether or not he will go to residential care. This is the whole point of the MA waiver…to keep costs down by keeping people in the home rather than facing the financial (and human) cost of institutional care. There is no one who thinks he is at that level as long as I can care for him. But without my 24 hour/day care I dont know what choice is left, we are connected with every social service agency available and there is no answer to this except hospitals…not even a group home. Politics aside, what do people want us to do? There is no private charity or organization that will take this over. I have lost sleep and I am an unusually calm person most of the time. There is no way for me to get ahead. or to “plan” for not being on state aid. Nice theory if one is not living paycheck to paycheck with a sick child .I work any odd jobs i can but am severely limited because I am dependent on his ILS support to show up for the 12 hours we get each week. That doesn’t happen consistently because at this pay rate you mostly have students or non-career minded folks to choose from. Schedules are all based on their availablilty. I could work evenings but I fear child protection would be involved then (sarcasm). There are many, many people in this situation. I am not asking for pity because I realize I am blessed to be a mom and to live in a country where so far we have not been put out of a home. Oh well, no vacations or fancy clothes…that is not important in life compared to his chance AT A LIFE. It is a misconception that there are only tons of folks abusing the system and that most want to stay at home. Far more low income people would love to be able to go to ANY legitimate job that would allow us to provide for our family. And even considering system abusers…targeting them hurts those who are legitimately needy people. Go ahead and work on the defects in the system and rules that allow the abuse, but dont keep targeting MA for the disabled. The cuts are not to programs for the chronically lazy…they are targeting those who are medically needy. I would love a day off by going back to work! No other job paid through the state is being targeted for such huge pay cuts to help balance the budget. Anyone want to hire a special needs teacher for any legitimate job that allows me to care for my son at home? Believe me…I have looked….so, probably not, right?. please visit The ARC of MN or other organizations which explain the complex needs of people who are not choosing to be needy.

              • @ Dennie

                I’m gonna make this quick—and with hasty compassion for YOU. Ya know– in an airplane– when they instruct you to put on your own oxygen mask first prior to helping anyone else? That’s what you need to do right now. There will be cuts to waiver funding. How much? I don’t know. You need to contact your caseworker and look into the DD waiver or the CADI waiver and get the ball rolling. Be realistic, you’ve already been altruistic. If that means your child moving into foster care and you getting back to work—so be it. You need to find what works before you worry yourself into a cancer. Good luck. It will get better.

                • DTM

                  I agree with @Dennie, but there are no CADI slots. Ramsey alone has a waiting list over 400. DD might be a better fit. Best of luck to you.

                • Dennie

                  Thanks, I appreciate your comments, really, I do. But there is no foster care or group home for a chld like him…ONLY instsitution. (we have been through this for a long time now).He is at high risk for abuse because of his brain injury and his provocative behaviors which are beyond his control. It is just not that simple, and it would ruin him. Foster care is generally stressful for kids but for a child who already has attachment issues and high anxiety as well as a need for structure and routine….going out of a home could be the end of any possiblity for a productive life. .He has a TBI waiver….I actually would be okay with a general waiver cut… I get it we all have to do our part. But cuts to MA are heavier %-wise compaired to other areas of spending. Let the families decide where to cut in terms of services purchased with lower waiver budget.. I would rather cut some of the adapted therapies in our last budget than lose our housing because of mandated pay cuts to the salaries of care givers. That is the point of consumer directed services using waiver monies….to save MA monies overall and to allow for the disabled individuals to have input into their quality of life. Do not mandate a pay cut for PCA’s, parent prividers and family providers. We can influence the outcome of this…please call and ask your legislator to listen to the people who truly need these services.

          • Yes

            Exactly right!!!!!

          • Stanley

            “this buds for you” I don’t like how you imply that the GOP is consists of white men because they are less than 50% of the population, heck some are woman or oooooooh even minorites! You just think that because you are closed minded racist. We are such a nice state we even elect people with mental health issues to be governor. Homeless are homeless mostly by choice, see housing assistance. How are they going to get to the job if they get it? Maybe they should take metro transit that we pay out of the ears to cart liberals around on? Why do people need a sponser for vocational training? Are they white males? NO? Then they have access to government grants. Every issue you bring up has multiple government programs AND several non-profits to fill the gap. People that don’t use these services or demand more simply do not want to change or receive real life changing help.

            • Jackie

              You are obviously of the over-privileged ilk. I would LOVE for you to introduce me to someone who is homeless and wonders where there next meal who will tell me they are starving by CHOICE. Read a few books, hell, watch PBS’ “Race: The Power of an Illusion” and understand the roots of poverty in America. The LARGEST receivers of government AID has been and continues to be WHITE people. Please READ READ READ and get to know accurate historical and recent FACTS. Then we can begin to work together to build a bridge towards a better America.

              • frozenrunner

                Not to rag on you Jackie. Of course more white people receive government aid than black people. 1, there are more white people, 2. There is a lot of corporate welfare. The other half the problem would be the that group of people who complain they “never get nuthing from the guvment” and think anyone who is black is getting something. Have a nice night.

          • Jason

            @ this buds for you. Wow, White man trash. That can be viewed as offensive by some. Possibly racist? This is a repost wcco must not like me pointing this out.

          • MN can survive

            Another side to the story, I know of a gal who lives at Mary’s Place with her 5 kids. She has enough money for her nails, hair and dresses better than you or I. She works part time and her babysitter is free. I’m sure there are many other tales such as this one. Par down welfare, get rid of the illegals so we are keeping MN money here, make sure welfare is not supporting a second wife of the Muslims, and put restrictions on EBT cards, no cash.

            • MN can survive is right

              Amen sister.

        • Tea Party Time

          I’m with YOU BUD! The GOP will KILL the MIDDLE CLASS?

          I think the GOP is standing up for the middle class and is doing what they can to prevent the LOWER CLASS and people living off the Govt with unrealistic pay structures and welfare lifers from soaking us ALL dry!

          Why should the top 66% PAY for the lower 33%! And soak us dry!!!!

          There is NO incentive to WORK your way out of poverty in MN…..only to work to become a “non-working” employee of the state!!!!

          • Bryan

            God… the stupidity of GOP and tea party supporters never ceases to amaze me…. Tea Party Time… your statement is 200% stupid and 1000% igonorant. Go read some John Locke “The social contract” or any other political and social philosophy book and expand your thinking… god what idiots are among us… The top 66% do not pay for the lower 33% (thats not even 100%) where did that 1% go??? Lower taxes on the rich does not increase jobs. It has been proven over and over again… idiots.

            • Jackie

              AGREE 100% I hate when people have opinions when they haven’t really indulged in an effort to educate themselves on the topics at hand. That’s exactly why we have the Tea Party (who’s ignorance reveals itself within their own title) influencing American politics. I’m all for freedom of speech, but can we PLEASE require people be able to read facts instead of believing anything they hear? It’s getting real depressing and embarrassing.

              • mj

                Way to go Jackie! You work for a program that doles out welfare and you accept welfare. How depressing and embarrassing.

                • Going down

                  @mj please quit projecting your self hatred onto other, I know it’s hard to care about yourself when you feel so much hate.

            • DFL "stuck in the 20's" for almost 100 years!

              Oops…I guess my statement means nothing because I fat fingered one of the numbers….

              If you want to “split hairs” there……a statement can NOT be “200%” ANYTHING….let alone 1000%….

              You are basing “real life” in the 21st century based on a book written WHEN?

              That’s the problem with you DFL’ers and your out dated theory’s?

              I agree…unions back in the industrial revolution WERE important….but times have changed?

              So quit quoting your out dated theory’s and join the 21st century!

              I have an idea….I’ll read your outdated book….and maybe you need to read Current Trends in Economics: Theory and Applications…a book written in 1999 (not even in the 21st century……but hey….I seem to be off by ONE all the time right?)

              Maybe if you understood MODERN economics… may understand why we all get so upset!

              • wow

                Hey Einstein (DFL “stuck in the 20’s” for almost 100 years!) if you’re going to get all nitpicky, it’s theories, not “theory’s” and outdated is one word, no need for all caps

                • World of Warcraft?

                  Woops… are correct! Sorry…..I guess I was more interested in getting my point across than checking my grammar…..

                  Touché (I hope I spelled that right…)

                • wow

                  @World of Warcraft – or is it DFL “stuck in the 20’s” for almost 100 years!- Pretty slick there changing names you sly guy! …are you sorry about your grammar or your inability to get your point (whatever it might be, it’s pretty fuzzy) across?
                  Either way, you failed.

                •'s me still

                  It’s still me…I just like to change my name to keep pople like you guessing….and how did I FAIL to get my point across?

                  If your going to say I “failed”……I would think you would be smart enough to provide some proof?

                  I was man enough to admit my grammar errors since you have no other foot to stand on…..more than you DFL’ers can say!

                • changing my name again!

                  OH MY GOD!…I forgot a letter in PEOPLE!!! My point is SHOT!!!! DFL’ers need to have things SPELLED out for them if they are to understand ANYTHING!

                  Oh well…..

                • well


                  No, I still don’t see DFL “stuck in the 20’s” for almost 100 years!’s point…

      • billy


        By forcing it to live within its means? All govt entities have a budget except one. The Feds. Low and behold they are 14 Trillion dollars in debt. Enough said!

        • Me

          Thanks to the RICH. That run the repugs.

          • billy

            Why dont you take a look at a political donar list. Then comment on who the rich own.

            • Leroy

              It’s the unions that control the Democratic party it is so suprizing that one condition is to leave the out of control unions alone.

    • frozenrunner

      More incorrect statements coming out of an obvious right winger. Dayton never quit the senate. He did not run for reelection. You could even try and remember that he said he did not have enough of his own money to run again.

      • Gardoglee

        Perhaps he’s confusing Dayton with another former governor who did quit her job to become a reality show personality. Or maybe the other former governor of Minnesota who quit as mayor of a Minnesota city, and then effectively quit as Minnesota governor to be a color commentary personality for the XFL (whatever that was…) Or maybe he just learned to make up his own facts by watching some network “news”.

      • Leroy

        That’s because no one would support him. He has no lack for cash.

    • Nancy

      1) Will look better for Dayton than the spoiled children running the GOP and 2) He did not quit during his term as Senator. He just didn’t run for a second term. 3) He could get re-elected in a heartbeat. Others not so lucky.

      • Bud

        The only reason he won Nancy is becase the 3rd party idiot took votes from Emmer and Dayton still nearly lost. Your own magazine bible, Time Magazine named him the worst senator. He will not get re-elected in a heart beat when he could barely do it the first time. Thank goodness for a strong GOP leadership that put the cap on the weasel.

        • Me

          Another emmer looser

          • disgusted

            Really? you you call someone a “Looser”? What, are you dabbling in politics at the Library between fapping sessions?

            • Me

              YOU TWO.

              • stay in school

                YOU TWO? HaHa.

                • Me(ntal moron)


                  What’s the diff?


                  I think “ME” stnad for

                  Me Educated (NOT!!!)


                  Keep it up “ME”……just shows you DFL supports have NO CLUE how a REAL economy is run!

            • wow

              @disgusted: And you with your superior intelligence still managed to not capitalize a sentence…Hello pot, this is kettle. You’re black

              • Not from MN

                @wow….I have to ask where you came up with such a GREAT “handle”? Did you think “Wow….I am sure a smart person…..I’ll use WOW as my handle!”

                Or…..did you look in the mirror and see a “Way Old Woman”


                I bet we know….

                • Not Not from MN

                  Well, I was all set to use “Not from MN” but alas, it was taken. I scrambled to think of a new one just so I could get my post in.

                  Say, how long did it take you to think up “Way Old Woman”? My guess is you plugged it into Google and searched for a real zinger. And do you mean Way Old Woman in the elderly more knowledgeable sense? If so, sure, that’s what it stands for. If not, do you have something against older women? Silly me, I guess you being a conservative we all know the answer to that…

                  Well, kudos to you! You did it! You really do belong on these boards. You offer more than most others can only dream of offering.

                  Thank you for stopping by.

    • Nancy

      Additionally,watch property taxes soar under the GOP plan. Mine tripled under Pawlenty’s “no new taxes” rein. We’ll all be forced to sell off to the few left with enough capitol to afford property. Maybe we can rent from our new landlords.

      • Hint to Nancy

        Don’t live in a big city or a county with a big city and your property taxes will remain low. Its amazing how much money you can save by moving away from the welfare losers and their enablers

        • wjaag

          Boy are you wrong!! It has nothing to do witht he big city as I came from a small town and our township had higher taxes than they are down here!! I agree with nancy and it is true we will be renting to our new owners!!!

          • Bud

            Small towns get hit the hardest because of the government in the form of the local school. More and more money is needed for school districts that can’t manage their money and need more and more money for teachers retirements and healthcare. At least in the city we have business and a higher population density to try and offset it.

          • Claire

            Looks like you are one of the many who purchased homes theyu couldnt afford. Usually one takes into consideration an increase in taxes and insurance.

      • Jon

        You know why your property taxes went up Nancy? Because during pawlenty, the value of your property/house went up. Get a clue

        • Justsayin

          actually, Pawlenty cut aid to local governments, reduced promised payments to school districts and generally didn’t cut spending but didn’t actually fund any of it. He kicked the can down the road to the next governor and legislature by essentially borrowing money. Property taxes went up because local governments had to actually pay for schools, local roads, etc etc etc. The spike in property values had pretty much peaked in 2003 and was definitely done by 2006. His first term wasn’t horrible but the second was so much about positioning himself to run for president that it became ridiculous. Frankly, it’s too bad Dayton caved. There are many many issues and programs that people (particularly in this economy) rely upon that will be impacted. Additionally, this really only kicks that can further down the road versus some actual reforms in spending and in revenues. No tax reforms, no restoration of a tax rate on high wealth individuals that was actually fair to both high wealth individuals and to the state. Going to make the 2013/14 budget REALLY messy particularly given the federal budget debates and the consequences for state governments.

          • Jackie

            Agree 100%

      • Bud

        That will be your Lord Dayton fool! When the Dems are told no, they will get their pound of flesh from you one way or another. Where do you think the money will come from to pay Daytons huge budget??? Your property taxes Nancy and my hard earned money. I’m tired of paying for all the gimme’s that Dayton is ahead of.

        • Get a clue . . .

          Bud –

          Get a clue. Not one penny of your “property taxes” fund the states budget. However, they do fund the programs that are mandated to cities, counties, school districts and special taxing districts BY THE STATE and receive no funding for those mandates. Actions taken by the legislature (regardless of party lines) do impact your property taxes.

          • Bud

            Au contraire Clue – property taxes are tagged for the schools which is part of the state budget. Whatever they can’t get from the state has to come directly from increasing property taxes. It is essentially a double dip. And very clearly stated by you!

        • JOE FOR GOVT

          Then move to North dakota if you do not like the quality of life in Minnesota.

          • Bud

            I like the quality of life in MN – if you like government so much move to California. They have plenty of it to go around!!!! You’d like it there – sky high taxes, more laws than can be enforced and freebies galore!

    • Linda Jones

      Must be a GOP supporter; all I read is Governor Dayton’s strong insistence that ALL Minnesotans are given support, and not just the 2 percent that hold the money. Get a grip and remember the rest of us who live (and vote) in Minnesota. I have more respect than ever for Governor Dayton, and less respect for the GOP party.

  • Kate2000

    How strange … a day after a story breaks about a beer distributor not being able to sell beer in MN, the shut down ends.

    All hail Miller/Coors!!

    • TCJay

      Right on! Mmmmmmmmmmmm….beer.

    • smw

      lol nice! Beer is important in this state!

      • Linda

        I think it’s because they couldn’t put the big Muskie in the record books :)

    • A. Minneapolitan

      With all the garbage that is being put out here as “enlightening commentary,” you, Dear Kate, really put something forward.

      Bravo, Kate!


    It is likelyn that the dirty republican filth still won’t move at all. They are dirty republican filth.

    • Bill

      Rather be Republican filth than Commie Socialist Democrat!!

      • Mark

        Rather have a consistant caring heart for those less fortunate than myself, than to be a greedy uncaring slob like some of the commets shown by the republicants whose only hope and desire is to destroy our democracy and ruin our nation!

        • Mark Too

          Real caring for others – Teach a man to fish so he is fed for the rest of his life.
          (K-12 paid education. How serious you take that education and what you do with it . . . That’s what “separates the men from the boys”.)

          NOT real caring for others – Give a man a fish, he’ll be hungry tomorrow.
          (Too much welfare, need more incentives to work rather than stick your hand out.)

          This country/state has been giving out far too many handouts for far too long. A lot more tough love is what’s needed here.

        • jeff

          shut up fool

        • Cindy

          Good for you to care for people lees fortunate than yourself. I commend you for that – just make sure to do it with YOUR OWN MONEY!

          • Kirby

            I’m sure that’s what Jesus would say too! I’ll try to find the verse

          • Mark


            I guess you would much rather have all programs destroyed?

            when your 90, I hope you don’t need social security or medicare to take care of you.

            I hoipe you are never blessed with a child who needs constant medical care, or additional help in school, cause if you don’t have enough money I guess in your world your child would have to die. I feel sorry for you with that attitude.

            I hope you never need anyone’s help Cindy, because if more people like you are around, I guess the only help you will get is that push over the cliff!

          • Scandia - Ruth

            When your missfortune hits you where do you plan to turn. Shame, shame on you for yoour non caring attitude.

            • Cindy

              Church or family – where charity belongs

              • Where is the Love.

                And where do you turn to when your family or church is unable to help support you?

              • dub

                Yeah, the churches have soooooo much money to give….

                Maybe r-think that statement and get back to us with an intelligent response. Or, just go away.

            • Yes



      You know GOP…EVERY post you post just says “Repub filth” this “repub filth” that….

      Why don’t you TRY and at least submit something that doesn’t make you look like a 12 year old pot head…..

      Why? That’s right..YOU CAN’T! Your a moron!

      • AJ-EA

        The correct spelling is “You’re (you + are) a moron!” It appears that you’re not so smart either.

        • missing the point

          Maybe it was written that way for a reason? OH! That’s right……you may not see the “humor” in that…

          why would I use “that’s” and NOT You’re? Hmmmm…….go figure….

          • AJ-EA

            That’s a very weak attempt to save face, buddy. Just admit it. You and all Democrats are just a bunch of selfish, whiny, cry-babies who expect more from others than you do from yourself which you are too ignorant to see and too naive to admit. Furthermore, if you think you provided and “humor,” well…You’re not very funny.

            • You must be reading the wrong post...

              AJ-EA……I think you must be reading the WRONG post? Me? A DFL’er? This post was against “GOPSUX”!
              Read the response!

              When I state “GOP” it’s pointed to “GOPSUX”! (See his worthless comments about “filth this and filth that”)

              Really? You can’t tell that post was AGAINST GOPSUX? Slow down…take a deep breath and maybe re-read it prior to bashing someone….

              Sorry… really need to look at the post closer….

              • dub

                Ha! Just like the GOP…confused. Nice work AJ-EA

            • dub

              A Grammar Nazi….I guess when one has nothing of real value to add to a discussion…

              Good for you AJ-EA! You got on the board!

  • ted

    Dayton hit the nail on the head. It wasn’t ever about the budget. Good for Dayton. Will he GOP accept? Bets are that they will not and then we will know what is really going on.

  • Dean

    Dan I can’t believe you are calling Gov Dayton, Goofy, considering he as State Auditor never wanted to be paid anything and was forced to accept something so he accepted a salary of $1 tell me how many GOP’s would do that? Getting rid of the Union’s really are you that ignorant? The Union have over the years given the type of health care you currently have in your job considering the way your are talking I’ll assume you think your higher up in some big company. Well without unions your company wouldn’t have the quality of health coverage you have so maybe you should think things through before you open your mouth Goofy Dan

    • Cindy

      It is/was a smart move on rich-boy dayton’s part to not accept a salary that way when he fails (again and again) there is nothing to complain about because “you get what you pay for”

      As for your union blabbering … its not working anymore, you guys are on the way out and we will all be better off for it

      • Bill


      • frozenrunner

        Think about it every time you end up paying more for your health care. When you are older in your profession and fired because you cost too much you will understand what a union can do for you.
        If you look at Dayton’s term as auditor you will find nothing to besmirch him on other than the is two things you are not: rich, democrat

        • chad

          Yes i agree, they can drive up the costs at businesses, such as health care, becasue they are getting cadillac plans, and unreasonable retirement plans and pensions that will ultimately break the companies that are having to offer them to union employees. they served their purpose when they began, better working conditions and fair pay. Today they have taken that to a new extreme, and it’s about how big of a plan then can get, and how well we can seet our employees into a compnay to the point where an underperforming worker can sit on their can and feel protected because it takes an act of congress to get rid of a union employee. Yep, well done unions.

        • Cindy

          I work for myself and would rather pay more to an insurance company than give one dime to a corrupt union goon. At least the insurance company actually performs a service.

          Like I said, give it up and you and goofy dayton deserve each other

          • Scandia - Ruth

            Cindy, health insurance companies are only as good as your health. If you get sick and cost them too much you will be dropped. Then who will you appeal tofor help?

          • WE

            @Cindy what corner do you work on? I would like know so you can get RICHER.

          • sw

            What? Exactly what “service” do insurance companies provide? They don’t give me medical care. The “premiums” that insurance companies charge go up every year. As a matter of fact, I don’t even refer to them as premiums, I now refer to them as taxes. And republicans never complain about these taxes going up. Insurance companies make money by denying claims to people, then the CEO’s pay themselves out with nice fat bonuses. A bigger racket I’ve never seen. And you people complain about government? Unbelievable.

            • Cindy

              service = I pay a monthly premium and if I need it they take care of the bills

              Never once have I ever had claim denied, the only people I have encountered that have had claims denied are on medicare or gov care

              If I have a problem with the salary of the CEO of the insurance company I do business with or if they deny claims I will move my business to a different company

              This is how capitalism works but I don’t expect you commies to understand that and I’m sick of arguing so I and the rest of the conservatives will just continue to defeat you. Communism never wins

              • Mark

                WAKE UP Cindy and the rest of you!

                Capitalism + an economic system
                Democracy, Socialism, Communism, etc= a type of government

                Plutocracy/Facism= the new America. If you’re not sure what it means, look it up in a dictionary. thanks to public school, I know how to use one, thank you.

                • shrugged

                  Is that trig or algebra? I don’t get your point.

              • frozenrunner

                First off, name calling is in poor taste. One would think if you worked for yourself you would have manners. Second of all with your insurance if it is PPO don’t get serious medical conditions or have parts that wear out. Then you will discover what you paid for.

                • Cindy

                  Well, my manners are impeccable. What is so wrong with me wanting to keep my own money for me? Why should my business help pay for some freeloaders. My tax money goes right out the window! And don’t tell me it goes to the police, I have never had to call the cops

            • JOE FOR GOVT

              I have many friends who left state government to work for Insurance companies. They get more money and perform less work.. an even bigger racket.

        • dan

          Minnesota has laws against age discrimination and in regards to lifetime Pension or health insurance for you and your family, the writing is on the wall…………..The American Public is not going to bail out your failed Union.

      • Stien

        Careful! Not all unions are with the Dems! Do some checking! But I suppose those unions are ok right?

        • chad

          Nope i am sorry, i don’t have the time of day for any unions, it’s the principle of a group purposelt crippling a company or organization unless their demands are met. Don’t think that is right, and only hurts those companies.

          • BigDaddy

            Yes because we need more children working in meat packing plants, too many kids are wasting their time in middle school when they could be making hotdogs for 20 cents a day. Hell Yeah!

        • Taxed enough

          You name me one union that does not back the Dems and I will contact them to come and represent us. And yes if they are with the common working folks instead of padding their own pockets yes they are ok.

    • dan

      Sorry Dean,
      I am self employed. I pay for my own insurance, my own benefits and I dont get paid unless I do my job! I dont know what its like to be indepentantly wealthy and a trust fund baby, so yes I can understand why he would take a $1/year salary. Why was that an option but now he enjoys the full salary of the Govenor? Seems goofy to me.
      Really I should support Unions as they are over paid under achievers that get under bid on every job we go up against a Union shop.

      • Joe

        stop your damn stereotyping, You chose the path of self employment, not I. You knew what you were getting into when you went that route. I work with extremely hardworking Union people who’s quality of work I would put up to anybody’s. Union are very at training people. They assured that they get fair wage so they can be happy in their profession. Sure, there are a few bad apples in any employment setting, but that is no reason to criticize the whole group. Dan, you do need to stop listening to White Man trash talk radio- you know, the patriot station.

        • dan


          And you wonder why jobs are leaving the State of MN and the US? Wow, hope you are “happy” in your profession.

          • dub

            Tell us Dan. Bush tax breaks?…TPaw’s? How have those GOP backed plans helped?

            • Going down

              republicans equate tax cuts with the reagan era, the problem is, it’s not the same.
              reagan went from 70% to 50% and then 50% to 28%, when you increase someones take home income 20% they spend more, when you increase it 42% they spend a lot more.

              If you increase someone take home income 5-10% they will increase savings accounts/ stock investments

              We need to increase taxes!!

      • Taxed enough

        Thanks Dan, I totally agree with you. He started off saying he wasn’t going to take a salary but once in office decided he better. As far as the Unions are concerned at one time they were valuable to the American worker until they became so big that now all they are looking out for is themselves. I was twice a Union member and my unions did nothing for us but boy they sure kept raising their dues every time I turned around. The second union I was in we choose to abolish them and they took on the thug mentality and tried all kinds of scare tactics. That was a year ago and we are much better off without them and you know what our employer is still good to us and we are not paying the huge dues. Unions suck

    • TCJay

      Funny!!! When I inherit millions from my family’s fortune, I’ll also make a lot of empty symbolic gestures, like accepting a $1 salary.

      • DTM

        Sure you would TCJay, sure you would…

    • Claire

      So what Union do you work for Dean? Do you feel good about the Union deciding what candidate to support for you and using your dues to finance a political candidtate?
      Do you enjoy working your butt off but get paid the same as the slackers? If Unions went away do you really think the Health Insurance would get any worse or more expensive?

  • Jason

    Can anyone link the June 30th budget bill that is being considerd? I would like to see it. Do you?

    • Jason

      I would like to see what exactly all the fuss is about.

  • Hmmmm

    He’s trolling. He known damn well that the Republicans won’t give up their social agenda. He just want to make sure everyone else knows what is going on.

    • ted

      And it is a good one to. I can’t wait to see the reply. Will it be the typical GOP twisted half-truth sidwinding distracting reply. I can’t wait….

      • shrugged

        my thoughts exactly. smoke ’em out! get these right wing nut jobs front and center

  • Bill

    Throw this BUM out of office before he destroys our state!!

    • DTM


    • JSL

      I dont’ think there’s much left to destroy…Pawlenty pretty much saw to that

  • kevin

    gop sux may I say you are a moron

    • GOPSUX

      Sure, but you are only reinforcing the idea of dirty republican filth.

  • Claire

    So I guess the ever dependant Democrats couldnt make it more than 2 weeks without their daily handouts. Glad to see you are so strong in your beliefs! Did you really think it would turn out any different?

    • Hmmmm

      Dang straight!

      Sure, we can’t buy beer or fishing licenses. And, as time goes on more and more medical workers will not be able to renew their licenses so we won’t have any medical care. Oh, and more of us won’t be able to drive our cars.

      It will finally fulfill the GOP dream of dragging up back to the 1700’s.

    • Bud

      Now THAT’s funny – and true!!!!!! I’m with you Claire!

      • Mike

        Hey Bud, open up those books of yours and let us determine if your stealing from the taxpayers. One thing you can count on with you small business type, you never pay all your taxes………

        • Republicans R Failing MN

          HAHA! Exactly

        • F does NOT stand for fair

          Oh…and the DFL does?

          I think if you look back at headlines in the last few years..we have caught more DFL tax cheats than GOP!

          And the “F” in DFL? Do farmers even PAY TAX? Remembr when we all supported the farmers of the US, they were so poor! FARMAID!!! REMEMBER?….well have you SEEN corn prices lately?

          Maybe the farmers should give back some of the aid we provided them in a time they needed it…..because WE need it now!!!

          • ugh

            You obviously do not know any farmers. Get back at me when YOUR job relies on the consistency of the weather.

            • F is for farmers...

              PLEASE don’t think I don’t respect them……I do GREATLY respect farmers…’s just the idea…..

  • wifeofunionworker

    Dean getting rid of the unions would be great, my husband belongs to the union because he works for the city we live in and he hates it. Our insurance is not that much better than what the company I work for and they do not offer dental insurance through this great union and my husband will not a get a raise this year because of the great union, He says all the union is good for is if you are lazy and don’t do your job it makes it hard for someone to get fired. My husband pays dues for something he doesn’t believe in and that isn’t right.

    • Hmmmm

      Lol. He didn’t get a raise because of the union? Well, all of us non-union workers have been getting huge raises over the last decade. Too bad you missed out.

    • American

      wifeofunionworker Amen! and if their not working their the first in line for entitlements.

    • Taxed enough

      Here, here. Read my above comment. That is exactly the way it is with unions. Not only that but using our money to send out flyer after flyers endorsing their candidates at election time telling me I have to vote for this person or that person. My money to dictate to me something I don;t believe in. I am so glad I am out of the Union.

    • Jackie

      Tell your husband to QUIT his job!! I have a husband who is more than willing to be securely employed and HAPPY to pay dues out of his paycheck!!!! Say no to the paycheck if you don’t “believe” in it.

  • Tim

    Dayton wants it out because it does the oposite of taking care of the unions. It is provissions that hurt the unions. Wow get a clue before you comment. Typical gop follower.

    • chad

      Dan wants to take care of the unions, just like i do. Break down their collective bargaining power, they make it too expensive for companies to operate in the united states. Think it’s pretty sad that a bridge is being constructed in chinia and shippe to the US to be erected…..all becasue the unions make it far to expensive to do it here. SAD

      • are you illiterate?


    • Jason

      Fur reel……….

  • Earl

    @Chuck The social issues are used solely as a wedge. The Republicans don’t want them resolved in their favor. For example, if abortion was suddenly made illegal and gay marriage was ratified as illegal within the state constitution, what would the Republicans run on? Their fiscal issues would be shown to be harmful to many of their current supporters and they would lose votes. The same holds true fr the Democrats; they don’t want social issues resolved in their favor for the same reason. I know many, many people who vote based on one or two issues and they are very dedicated to those issues.


    Dayton strikes again! Why didnt you sign the bill the first time,in stead of shutting down the state you Moore-On!! Now I would wait and make that Lefty sign the bill the way it is! He’ll cave! Hail to the Repluicans!!!!!!!!!

    • GOPSUX

      Because, stupid, the dirty republican filth needs to remove all of the destructive hate from the bill. Oh wait, I forgot, you can’t read, reason or function because you are dirty republican filth. Hail to the good guys!!!

      • Taxed enough

        Are you looking in the mirror when you are writing this filth that you are spewing. Is that all you can resort to is name calling. If you do not have anything nice to say do not say it at all because you are making an a** out of yourself. Grow up

    • frozenrunner

      Learn to read and follow a story. What Dayton would sign is not what was presented to him earlier.

  • Marie

    Here’s the letter today from Dayton to GOP leaders:

    • Jason

      @ Marie , you found this letter. Can you find a link to the currently proposed budget? I think that is as important as anything. Thank you in advance.

      • Marie

        If I can find it, I sure will post it!

  • StraycatStrut

    Gov Goofy must have gotten pounded on his Political Budget stops up north.

    • MAJ

      Not only up North, but down South too.

  • Carol

    The government of the State of Minnesota should be ashamed of themselves they all deserve to be given pink slips in my opinion, what are they doing for the greater good of the State of Minnesota, Anyone?
    Governer Dayton I hope you succeed with your efforts; its too bad the State of Minnesota is the laughing stock of the rest of the United States with our the way our state Govenment is being run.

    • Dave Campbell

      We are about to become Mississippi North! I’m betting that property taxes in Minnesota will rise at least 20% in the next two years.

  • American

    Dayton a compromise with conditions is not a compromise!
    Unions are a huge part of the problem of government being too big and that is a huge reason for our debt. That’s why they need to be dealt with. Dayton is just after their vote. Unions have out lived their need and now are run by a bunch of greedy thugs! Government should not create jobs on the backs of taxpayers but, rather create an environment in which the free market creates jobs and in turn creates revenue for the state through income tax.

    • Hmmmm

      “Dayton a compromise with conditions is not a compromise!”

      Someone needs a dictionary. A compromise means that each side gives something up. What you are looking for is capitulation.

    • Stien

      Yeah it’s the Unions fault our State is in such a mess. Really? Come on Grover, we know better!

  • trl the alligator

    Republicans with their greed and democrats with their idiotic willingness to support habitual able bodied lazy adults on welfare and mothers who cant suport their existing kids and then having more and all this illegal alien crap is what is the ruin of our state AND country……to he..l.l. with politicians and the games they play…..its time for a revolution in this country and i submit that the very best man that should be President should be Joe Arapaio, with him we would definetly get on the right track……WE NEED HIM OR SOMEBODY LIKE HIM DESPERATELY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE NATION.

  • Carl

    How could we have ever considered increasing taxes a little on people making over a million a year? Well at least the millionaires will now pay off the GOP whose own fiscal house is a disaster. Nice move Tony Sutton. The party over people strategy continues.

    • Jackie


  • Trollmouse

    I can’t believe some of these posts. What happened to respectful dialogue related to differences of opinion? I am sorry that my children and grandchildren are going to end up paying because a few rich people in MN need to get richer instead of paying their fair share of state taxes. Governor, I applaud your efforts to improve our state’s economy fairly. I WILL vote for you when you seek your next term. You are what has kept MN from becoming another WI. Trust me, you have thousands of supporters.

  • MrMinn

    This offer will be rejected by the GOP.

    NOT because of the social issues or the union language but because of the $500M construction bill.

    Quite simply, Dayton knows the GOP will reject it by saying they will not pass any more spending bills above what they have already proposed because it will surpass what the state has – the social issues/union won’t even come into play.

    Dayton is scheduled to be on TV tonight with Zellars and this way he can say he tried to compromise AGAIN against himself AGAIN and the GOP won’t negotiate.

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