Occupy MN Protesters Cleaning Up But Not Leaving

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Occupy Minnesota says they are all about transparency, non-violence and being a good neighbor, that’s why they tackled the issue of trash first hand.

“I see a lot of filth,” said Matt Budzak of Bloomington.

A growing number of people are not happy about the condition of the people’s plaza that’s outside the Hennepin County Government Center.

“They’re chalking everywhere, on the sidewalks, on the building. They’re sleeping outside,” Budzak said.

Budzak is just one of several people who wonders who is going to clean this up.

“I am part of the sanitation committee and I am cleaning up people’s plaza,” said Joshua Burdette.

Occupy Minnesota says they are organizing.

“I see people picking up trash and I pick up my trash,” said Angela Skillern.

Occupy Minnesota does not want law enforcement to declare their gathering unsanitary and force them to disperse. This has happened in other cities across the country and led to arrests.

In Minnesota, the occupation pays for its own porta-potties. But the cost to keep county security officers walking the grounds is mounting.

WCCO has learned in the nine days Occupy Minnesota has been active, the county has spent more than $33,000 more than normal to provide security.

Minneapolis Police say they’ve reallocated resources allowing them to keep dollars spent in check, while the Hennepin County Sheriff’s Department says it hasn’t begun to calculate costs.

“We want or demand the separation of corporation and state,” said Jimmy Watkins.

Occupy Minnesota says the 99 percent has already paid too much with foreclosures and loss of jobs.

They say not only are they cleaning up the area they occupy, they are also cleaning up the way the organization works.

“So it is untidy and we’re trying to work on that. And we’re also trying to tidy up … not our management but our structure, as well, and that’s only going to get stronger with time,” said Watkins.

Occupy Minnesota is very concerned about the safety and welfare of those who sleep outside. They are trying to work with the city of Minneapolis to find an alternative spot where they can put up tents for shelter and not be threatened with arrest.

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  1. A Voter says:

    Who pays for the clean-up of any other public event, or gathering?

    1. Shareholder says:

      Maybe it’s time for the Flea Baggers to go find a bath somewhere..Go wash their pierced faces in some gas station sink.

      1. Kathy says:

        You would be wise to dump the shares you claim to hold, Shareholder. – your financial investment lies in the hands of the corporate exec.’s who reap benefit at painting a false impression.

        What they say is never in sync with what they know. These guys aren’t entirely stupid… they’re scrambling to keep investors on board. They know the front doors are closing all around them.

        As for a bath, it looks like you might need one.

  2. Jake says:

    Not THESE people I’ll bet.

    1. b.b. says:

      And what do you contribute to society? I mean other than your half-wit thoughts and smears that have no factual basis in reality?

  3. See BS says:

    WCCO is trying so hard to keep this little protest in the news every day. I bet more people show up at a Lutefisk festival and it doesn’t get all this free press.

    They keep making up all these stupid stories to keep it in the news.

  4. dman says:

    Who cares about the stupid lutefisk festival? These people have more balls than 99% of america for standing up for what they believe in… You and the other 99% of america live your life doing what ur told to do which is very pathetic… what a pathetic life u have worried about what free press the damn lutefisk festival gets…. Lutefisk is really nasty anyhow… And yes, i am a born and raised minnesotan….

    1. See BS says:

      I don’t think anyone cares about this protest — thats why no one showed up for it. They must be pretty bored if they are cleaning up trash.

      1. Crz says:

        If no one is showing up, where is the trash coming from?

  5. Anon says:

    Getting angry won’t solve anything, this is what happens when people want everything handed to them on a silver platter. Nobody owes you anything, it’s a cold world, darwinism is real…. now take that energy and focus it on something proactive.

    1. jackactionhero says:

      Nobody’s asking for handouts. I think you’re commenting on the wrong article.

  6. Sue J says:

    As the City workers are hosing the trash off the sidewalk, feel free to hose these people down with it. I was there and the place smelled, and I don’t think it was the trash

  7. Crz says:

    All I saw in the film was a few stray pieces of litter. If there’s a sanitation problem, why didn’t they show it? It looked cleaner at the government center than it does on an average day at the state fair.

    1. Bobby says:

      True- It is cleaner than an average day at the fair… but the state fair has several thousands of people there daily…these idiots manage a few dozen to a couple hundred daily.

      Do you see the difference?

  8. Jeffrey Kline says:

    Since these are PAID protesters, why not bill the people that are paying these folks to be out here? We all know they would not be out here doing this; this long without some form of payment for services. Find out who is paying them, and bill them.
    Simple.

  9. tbone says:

    Soon it will be snowing, and the real homeless will be sleeping outside and in shelters. These people will go back to their cozy little shacks, and not give one iota of whats going on in the real world. They should volunteer their time at the Dorothy day or union gospel mission if they are so concerned about whats going on with the people affected bu foreclosures and corporate greed

    1. Bill says:

      And I’m sure there will be plenty of homeless people and more and more each year!

      1. tbone says:

        And lying around on the lawn at the gov center isnt helping those that need help, all they are doing is costing the gov more money for security. 33 grand could have gone a long way in helping a family that is facing eviction, or going hungry

        1. jackactionhero says:

          But that money you mentioned cannot be used for that anyway, so what is the point of your comment?

  10. okedokee says:

    After watching the video, I can see that these people are nuts. Want a job, get rid of the blue hair. Stop laying around on the lawn reading books. and the fact that these people are cleaning up after themselves is not news worthy, I just cleaned up my house and took out the trash, and didnt see a news crew anywhere

    1. Citizen says:

      @okedokee. Really? Pauly Perrette’s character Abby on NCIS has plenty of tattoos, weird clothes, strange hair, and tons of makeup on. She is a character and a beloved one at that. You must be a white-shirt, button-down, Dockers kind of person yourself. Guess what. Society has moved on from that model. I agree with Crz who mentioned the trash at the State Fair. Oh, I forget, it is okay to be trash and messy and look bad and smell bad if it is for a good cause–profits by businesses at the Fair.

      1. Bobby says:

        @Citizen- You do realize that NCIS is not real life don’t you??

        1. Citizen says:

          Well, button-down shirts and Dockers on everyone does not reflect real life, either, Bobby! You need to get out of the house once in a while. Most of the people I work with wear jeans, t-shirts, and get pretty dirty doing physical labor. Perhaps you would be more comfortable if the protesters wore suits and ties?

    2. jackactionhero says:

      Blue hair? You think these people are dirty, beatnik hippies straight from 1969 and Berkeley?

      You need to open your eyes and learn what’s happening in the world around you and realize someone has stacked the deck and you don’t even know it. The sad part is when you comment how fair everything is, but then apparently unknowingly live beneath the oppressive thumb of the “haves.”

  11. flower child says:

    “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.”
    ― Mahatma Gandhi

    Good quote from another poster elsewhere on this site. Also, the same comments faced by the protesters in the 1960’s.

    1. I'm Just Sayin' says:

      Flower Child, lets see how your little group holds up when we are ignoring you in January, say the third week of January. If you are not familiar, you will be getting treated for frost bite (most likely on our dime), if you live through the night in your little tent.

      1. flower child says:

        @I’m. Why do you care? Why are you so threatened by this group’s protests?

        1. I'm Just Sayin' says:

          F.C., so you want them to be ignored? I thought the idea behind a protest was to draw attention to your point of view. In this case you appear to suport this group, but do not want others or people with a viewpoint that could be counter to comment. Why do you post here if you do not want people to comment?

          As to why I care, I care becausse in January my taxes will be paying for the hospitalization of these people getting treated for frostbite. If they last that long and I promise you, I can surely ignore them until it si too cold for them to stay outside and ruin ouir public place with their tents, garbage, and shouting as me as I walk by.

          1. flower child says:

            So, the possible frostbite and health treatment of the protesters gives you a selfish stake in getting people to hate and force the protesters away. There is plenty of dialog on this website about the protests without haters drawing attention to the group and wishing them harm.

            1. I'm Just Sayin' says:

              F.C, No hatred mentioned, but a financial stake yes. My comment was to see how well they hold up and if they are still there in January. Your quote drew attention to them and that if we ignore them, they will fight and win. My counter was that they do not have the resolve to make it in January… No hatred, just a statement on my belief in their resolve. Quit trying to put words into my mouth to try to make your point valid.

              1. flower child says:

                @I’m. You missed Ghandi’s point entirely. We are long past the ignore stage and are in the ridicule stage. And violence has already started–some of it deliberately invoked by the haters of the protesters. I don’t think the protesters will have to stay until January to wrap things up.

            2. Bobby says:

              FC- I don’t think anyone was wishing anyone harm. Frostbite is a FACT. IT WILL happen. We aren’t wishing it will happen to hurt anyone. We are warning you, saying that it WILL happen.

              And yes, maybe some of us do take it personally, because WE(the working class, and true 99%) will be paying for your hospital visit.

  12. hard rains says:

    The questions start with the investment bankers and wall street speculating with commercial assets, middle class assets, (start with mortgages for those who don’t understand this) and inflating the prices of housing way beyond their worth in middle class wages. And the answers lie in getting investment banks and wall street to pay for their mistakes, not letting the middle class pay for wall street failure in the global investment markets.

  13. Citizen says:

    @hard rains. I don’t understand the devaluation in the housing market from the standpoint of the banks wanting to foreclose on properties so very quickly. The houses become worth nothing because of neglect and end up bulldozed. Wouldn’t it be better to negotiate with the homeowners to keep them paying some mortgage payments rather than take the property? If the houses do sell, it is often at way less than the mortgage value to the bank. I am trying to follow the money trail to find out the profitability of the bank foreclosures.

    1. Reality... says:

      The profitability comes when the bank is able to “write off” the bad loan. It takes an average of 18 months to forclose on a house. You would think the bank would have plenty of time to restructure the loan for owner affordability–but, NO, it’s easier to dump it for the good of the balance sheet.

      1. Citizen says:

        Got it. Is the value of the house, the balance of the mortgage held by the bank? If so, it makes a lot of sense now. Thank you.

        1. Reality sucks says:

          The original loan amount minus any payments. They don’t count the 20-30% equity loss from crisis. Obama tried to work with this but the homes devalued so fast that his plan couldn’t be pushed thru fast enough. He wanted the loans to be restrucured to new value– not realizing that the value DID keep going down and CONTINUES even now to go down. To make matters worse for these owners–they need 20% equity in order to qualify for a refinance.

          1. Citizen says:

            @Reality. So, the homes/houses become a tax write-off which is ultimately at the expense of U.S. taxpayers in general. Banks should never be allowed this kind of power over a government, citizenry, and economy.

            1. Reality sucks says:

              YES. And when they are ripped from the owner, they sit vacant which then becomes a supply and demand problem for the market and a county/state non-earner. Meaning, no property taxes.

              1. Citizen says:

                And a further devaluation of existing housing and a further degradation of the tax base ever spiraling downward. I read about some houses in Detroit a couple of years of ago that were selling for $10,000. There are houses in a neighborhood where I own a home that I can’t imagine giving away. Only homeless people would want them.

                1. Reality sucks says:

                  That again is where this isn’t good. They rip the house and sell it for peanuts. Why not rip the house and sell it back to the owner at worth? Dumb. Better for all. Sure, some would fine unfairness in that but it’s, in the end, for the good of all.

          2. easyrider says:

            True housing prices are still going down. They are finding their true worth once again. That’s free market place capitalism place in action. It’s a correction and the wrong people will pay for it. Are paying for it.

    2. hard rains says:

      True it would be better, but the banks can’t find the personnel who can figure that out apparently. One major problem is that once they floated the mortgages into speculation they lost track of ownership. Even in foreclosing on a home, that bank might not be the holder of that mortgage. Things are that bad. It’s gotten to the point where a bank negotiating on any given property is a risk (from their standpoint) since they might not hold the mortgage, they don’t really know.

  14. easyrider says:

    The answer is in Corporations hiring in order to increase revenue, bringing jobs back from overseas to increase stock value in the markets here at home and global markets. The more people that can afford to buy products that Corporations produce, the greater the value of their stock will be. Then take Commercial assets out of the hands of Investment bankers. Do all that and the middle class is the answer to our financial woes.

    1. Reality sucks says:

      What’s not so funny about that scenario is that a ton of corporate stocks are over valued and balance sheets are bloated right now. Making it not such a good deal for a stock buyer. For that to work, we need another market crash. I think it’s coming. Getting rid of investment bankers…doubt it. Though they are splitting due to Dodd Frank. They are making the choice of being a bank OR a broker and not both.

      1. Citizen says:

        I also do not see the housing market rebounding any time soon. We have lost 10 years of economic growth for today’s workers, and with the unsettled job market, I doubt many of them (even when they can afford to), will want to take a chance on buying a home unless it’s really special or something they really want. How can anyone make life plans when jobs are so unstable or nonexistent? Isn’t that the real crux of the problem? So much instability in the country? Which, of course, is because of too much wealthy concentrated in too few hands. Stability is defined by the spread of risk, taxes, and consumption among many–not a few.

        1. Reality sucks says:

          Adding that you now need a 20% down payment, like days of old, makes it harder for most and sqeezes out an entire sect of would be buyers. I read an economist report that stated the new normal for unemployment is 7%. Meaniwhile houses could see another 10-20% drop while the system continues to flush the bad loans out. Funny, I got a mailing over the weekend from a bank offering an adjustable rate mortgage. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!

        2. easyrider says:

          True, instability is good for the wealthy few since it concentrates current and future worth in their hands. They don’t fear a crash. They will be able to ride it out and come out of it even wealthier. It’s just the rest of us who will suffer.

      2. easyrider says:

        I agree the markets are in a downward spiral, and Corporation stocks are over valued. Part of that problem is that their products aren’t selling because of fewer consumers which in turn will force Corporations to further drop their prices which in turn means they will cut their workforce and…well the only way to stop that downward spiral is for corporations and banks to accept their losses and begin again. True, they won’t do that until we hit bottom.

        1. Reality sucks says:

          And, the FED needs to allow interest rates to resume. Right now, you can’t buy treasuries or bonds or save in an ordinary savings account since there is no interest to make it worth it–set below 1%. So, people are forced to put money into the stock market to grab yield. Interest rates like now are good for housing but no ones buying! Everyone is saving.

  15. Reality sucks says:

    WOW, that was a good morning coffee break—my favorite heady bunch of posters: Citizen, hard rains and good ol’ easyrider. Thanks guys, but I have to go to work. Have a good one.

    1. easyrider says:

      It was good to be together again…see you later.

    2. Citizen says:

      Thank you for the info, Reality. Nothing like real life experience…. Have a good day, everyone.

  16. Jenny Peterson says:

    There is a significant entity that is never mentioned when people are talking about the drastic tanking of the national and international economy in 2008. I like news programs and I watch lots of them. It became apparent that many in the mainstream media were crossing the line and, instead of just reporting, were insinuating themselves into the campaign of Barack Obama in his favor. They created a panic that, even though things were not good financially already, completely blew things apart. They had every individual who sat in their second bedrooms world-wide ,handling their own little portfolios, suddenly start dumping huge volumes of corporate stock. It all went down like dominos. Add in the international types who are part of terrorist groups who want America to tank and the disaster developed. Remember old Weather Underground Bill Ayers who was part of the group in Chicago who pushed Obama for President ? He was part of an anarchist group in the 1960s who were killing police officers and blowing up federal buildings. I doubt that the approach to life of these people changed. They wanted to make Obama look good as compared with George Bush. Initially, after the stock tanking mess big companies were looking for a bail-out. They were deliberately humiliated by the Senate committee at the hearing (where were you–werent you watching? Who was going to invest in the US economy when that was going on? ) Ford was the only company that refused bail-out money from the government after that. All of the companies paid back the money with interest. The Occupy groups don’t mention that. Also, it was two Canadians editing an on-line magazine and Julian Assange of Wikileaks that created the Occupy mess. They are citizen terrorists and they should be charged in international courts as such. Where was Interpol? Where was the FBI? Julian Assange doesnt want you to have a job and neither do any of the terrorist groups. Dont people get that? On 9/11 2001 Osama bin Laden had an objective not to just knock down a few buildings–He wanted those actions to have a catastrophic economic impact, too. At that time the national news again went on at length about economic fall-out—However, people suddenly became patriotic and were out specifically buying goods made in America. New Yorkers who, since the 1960s were making fun of people living in other parts of the country for being patriotic, suddenly wrapped themselves in the Stars and Stripes. During the Clinton administration Cohen removed many of the restrictions that prevented people from third world countries from flooding into America. Whether or not you agree upon the value of the newcomers from these countries, and whether or not you think illegals should be deported, there is no way to ignore the billions of dollars each year going to their countries of origin. Those are billions that do not circulate in the US economy. The problems in the US economy are multi=focal and often those who are complaining are those who helped cause the problems. People paying into 401Ks for years thought that they were going to all retire as millionaires, How realistic was that? Jobs went out of the US because Joe Blow kept looking for higher and higher returns on their 401Ks and companies went to countries where the workers worked for less.inorder torespond to demans for higher returns. To the Occupy groups—Get off your rears and do something to help the less fortunate in the community. You act like you are at a rock concert. I’m just one who is sick of your disruptive behavior in communities. .

  17. Jenny Peterson says:

    There is a significant entity that is never mentioned when people are talking about the drastic tanking of the national and international economy in 2008. I like news programs and I watch lots of them. It became apparent that many in the mainstream media were crossing the line and, instead of just reporting, were insinuating themselves into the campaign of Barack Obama in his favor. They created a panic that, even though things were not good financially already, completely blew things apart. They had every individual who sat in their second bedrooms world-wide ,handling their own little portfolios, suddenly start dumping huge volumes of corporate stock. It all went down like dominos. Add in the international types who are part of terrorist groups who want America to tank and the disaster developed. Remember old Weather Underground Bill Ayers who was part of the group in Chicago who pushed Obama for President ? He was part of an anarchist group in the 1960s who were killing police officers and blowing up federal buildings. I doubt that the approach to life of these people changed. They wanted to make Obama look good as compared with George Bush. Initially, after the stock tanking mess big companies were looking for a bail-out. They were deliberately humiliated by the Senate committee at the hearing (where were you–werent you watching? Who was going to invest in the US economy when that was going on? ) Ford was the only company that refused bail-out money from the government after that. All of the companies paid back the money with interest. The Occupy groups don’t mention that. Also, it was two Canadians editing an on-line magazine and Julian Assange of Wikileaks that created the Occupy mess. They are citizen terrorists and they should be charged in international courts as such. Where was Interpol? Where was the FBI? Julian Assange doesnt want you to have a job and neither do any of the terrorist groups. Dont people get that? On 9/11 2001 Osama bin Laden had an objective not to just knock down a few buildings–He wanted those actions to have a catastrophic economic impact, too. At that time the national news again went on at length about economic fall-out—However, people suddenly became patriotic and were out specifically buying goods made in America. New Yorkers who, since the 1960s were making fun of people living in other parts of the country for being patriotic, suddenly wrapped themselves in the Stars and Stripes. During the Clinton administration Cohen removed many of the restrictions that prevented people from third world countries from flooding into America. Whether or not you agree upon the value of the newcomers from these countries, and whether or not you think illegals should be deported, there is no way to ignore the billions of dollars each year going to their countries of origin. Those are billions that do not circulate in the US economy. The problems in the US economy are multi=focal and often those who are complaining are those who helped cause the problems. People paying into 401Ks for years thought that they were going to all retire as millionaires, How realistic was that? Jobs went out of the US because Joe Blow kept looking for higher and higher returns on their 401Ks and companies went to countries where the workers worked for less.inorder torespond to demans for higher returns. To the Occupy groups—Get off your rears and do something to help the less fortunate in the community. You act like you are at a rock concert. I’m just one who is sick of your disruptive behavior in communities. .

  18. Pride says:

    These sillies should be glittered for their mess. I’ll be over tonight!

  19. Kathy says:

    Security outside of the Government Center shouldn’t be a matter of greater attention than for what goes on within the tower which brings a need for protest.

    If oversight and regulation were applied in accordnce with earlier written legislation, this insignificant $33,000 cost for security could be used to protect the people who stand in protest during for their otherwise more normal daily activity… like travel to the secure job which too many have lost.

    This protest will move forward no matter who deems it an inconvenience or even a threat.

    If the Plaza doesn’t like the mess outside, they should have thought about that before they made the greater mess on the inside.

    1. Jenny Peterson says:

      You could make a hog wallow at the government plaza—Those of us who rent and own homes in downtown Minneapolis care more that hundreds of what appear to be primarily older teens and twenty somethings have the gall to move en mass and block traffic in a threatening manner in our neighborhoods. I got caught in the mob near the Federal Reserve. I saw that this crowd of “humanitarians” were not even courteous enough to allow a woman who was pushing a baby in a stroller, and trying to cross Hennepin Ave., at First St., to pass. You think that you can threaten us, Kathy? Then it’s time for you to get arrested. Sit in a cell at the Hennepin County jail and get a “real life” experience. See how that’s going to look in your c.v.

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