Occupy Protests Costing Minneapolis PD Thousands

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – It’s been about two weeks since the “Occupy Minnesota” protests started, and the costs are starting to add up for the Minneapolis Police Department to help keep them safe and peaceful.

Police officials said Tuesday that over the last 12 days of protests at and around the Hennepin County Government Center, the police department has incurred about 726 hours of overtime that has no outside source for reimbursement. The cost of that overtime comes out to $43,500. That time is being put towards monitoring several marches that have taken place and responding to calls at businesses as a result of the “Occupy Minnesota” protests.

The police department has also taken personnel from its first precinct, special operations division and strategic information center away from their daily duties to focus on protest duties.

Officials said about 1,245 hours of police time has been used in the planning and support of the protests prior to their incurring overtime. Including fringe costs, those hours come out to about $56,000.

So far, officials said no Minneapolis Police officers have made any arrests.

“Occupy Minnesota” protestors insist they will keep at their efforts until they see significant changes made in the U.S. economy, which is struggling with a 9.1 percent unemployment rate.

  • j speedbag 64

    peaceful protest’s so quit sniviling punch out and go home……and quit wasting taxpayers money rybak

    • Kevin Mc

      Actually, they should be protesting in DC against our lame duck president and his party’s failed policies. Obama care, extending the war in Afgan, the list goes on…People have a right to protest…these ones are too stupid to figure out the correct location…go to DC!

      • A Voter

        Spoken like a true Capitalist.

    • I have a job

      or government is broke and that is why they are out there

  • Bobby

    Police need to start arresting these people when they break the rules.

    These people are not accmplishing anything. except wasting money. Go home, get a job.

    • Hello!

      Many people who are protesting have jobs. They go to work then protest, day after day.

    • brent

      Go Kent State style on them, what a pain! Go get a job!

    • Realist

      Ah ha, there all jobless losers in your eyes?

      • Obama stole the money from the middle class

        Yes. They are (They’re) all losers.

        They need to protest in DC. Who gave the money to the banks? Duh!

        • whatever

          So how did Obama steal your money? did he like say hey mr banker I want you to steal the money from the middle class with all the fraud and scams you are doing with the mortgage plus why don’t you use the stock market as your personal casino , and then why don’t you buy some politician, I heard that the congress is real cheap. Then when the people get mad they can blame me(obama)

        • Realist

          Really? This is Obama’s fault? The GOP shares no blame whatsoever? Are you delusional?

          • just sayin

            As far as I see it, you’re head is full of air, as you have no idea what you are talking about. Yes THEY should be protesting DC, THEY should NOT be against the banks… after all, who would provide you with a loan for anything?

            Secondly, none of these fools understand that the government made interest off those loans!!!!! So eat it!

            • Realist

              So you see the banks as the white knight in all of this?

    • Janelle

      Reseach how much has been paid out in brutaility lawsuits here in mlps in the LAST 10 YEARS ( rounding 20 million.) if not more…. Oh by the way I have a job .Reseach how many of your/yours tax dollars are wasting by way falsely arresting people, or jailing innoccent people everyday here in the United States of America.
      Reseach it ! By the way {accomplishing} I will continue to do.

  • Mac the Knife

    Here’s an idea, put as much effort into finding a job as you are protesting something you know nothing about, then work on climbing the corporate ladder…. oh wait, you’d rather have a handout. my bad. In 8.5 years, I have managed to go from part-time, to a management position and now I work in the corporate office in a high profile position, all with a little hard work and elbow grease. you people should try it sometime. it feels good.

    • marge

      I don’t think you understand the position of the protesters at all.

      • What Next?

        If you ask them, they wouldn’t know their position either!

        • Clyde

          No hand knowledge on your part. Perhaps you ought to staay in your basement.WAIT, YOU DO.

  • The accountant

    That’s 60 bucks an hour for cops. WAAAAAAY too much.

    • rasputin

      Actually it is not. Do your research.

      • Spewt'n Rasputin

        It is too much…you do research!

      • watching

        So you think that cops should be paid 100k per year. You must be on O’Bummers staff

  • Will

    Just wait until Dec, Jan, and Feb……the cold will ruin these hippies. if you cant spark your bowl, you cant protest….

    • Realist

      That very well may be true, but that doesn’t mean it’s going to end. The local occupation may stop, but this movement is worldwide now. It’s easy to criticize these “hippies”, but the fact of the matter is this whole thing was predicted (and feared) by the 1%. Go take a look at the easily available Citigroup memo from 10/6/2005, page 24, “IS THERE A BACKLASH BUILDING?”. The idea of the 99% rising up against the 1% has long been feared and predicted under our current economic situation.

      • wake up

        Maybe they should quit whining and get over it.
        I’m not the 1%, but I don’t care. I applaud their success.
        They, are also the ones with $ to provide jobs.
        Common sense.

        • Realist

          I see someone drank their GOP kool-aid this morning…

        • SO SAD

          But that’s the problem – they haven’t provided jobs. And, if they did, it would be part-time with no benefits. They got the tax breaks but have done nothing about it, and they continue to get the cuts.

  • G Dog

    Freedom isn’t free.

    I wonder how much it cost the British at the Boston Massacre?

    I wonder how much the Boston Tea Party cost the British East India Company?

    I wonder how much it cost to bring the Vietnam War to an end?

  • Reality sucks

    No mission, no goals, no organization, no agenda, no leaders, and no staying power. Wrong! It’s global and it’s in there. Here’s what their non-partisan message should be: America’s moral compass is broken. We’ve become a government “of, by and for” special interests, the super rich, Wall Street insiders, CEOs, and billionaires. In one generation the Super Rich grabbed all the power— killing the middle class American dream while offering us the illusion of independence. They are guilty of taking our jobs, our pensions, and our dignity. Wall Street banks are getting bigger bonuses (while laying off their pee-ons to free up cash), gambling with little people’s deposits in the global derivatives casino, dipping into employee pensions, and spending hundreds of millions lobbying Washington every year. It’s time to demand that integrity be restored to our elections. Only citizens should make campaign contributions. NOT corporations. It’s time to stop the cash corruption of our democracy and the authored legislation by Wall Street. Go Occupiers!

    • get it together guys

      Ok, so that’s a really inspiring rhetorical rant. But it does not change the fact that the numbers of protestors remain small, all they are doing is complaining, and that they have no plan of direct action. I think their grievances are valid, but their nascent movement is doomed unless they figure out a plan that entails something other than asking some higher power to fix the problem. I am not against their protest. It is an important part of the American tradition of political participation. It’s going to wither fast however, unless liberal politicians move to tap into their anger. They need to develop a definite line and a plan for individual action.

      • Citizen

        @get it. These things take time. The numbers are not really small when you consider that the movement is worldwide. Plus, people come and go as they can which is important. I’ve already read the progressives in Congress are looking to OWS as support for policies they want.

        • get it together guys

          I agree. I think this may be just the first phase where people are just expressing their anger and sharing experiences and ideas. Isn’t that how most grass roots movements begin? I just hope that they can hang together long enough to formulate a coherent message and plan of action. That is what it will take to get people to join them and for leaders to tap into their message.

    • right on

      you nailed here, thank you

    • Citizen

      Great post, Reality! Well said.

  • brandi

    “These people” are taking time out of their lives to stand up for all of us as Americans! They are standing up against Wall St. and its corrupt business practices and the incredibly greedy corporations currently buying and controlling our government. They have a right to peacefull assembly, and the right to freedom of speech. This whole “go home, get a job, dirty hippie” BULL is getting so old!!! No one is asking for a handout….unless we want to talk about Exxon, GE,BoA, Pfizer, Wells Fargo…the list goes on.
    The protestors stand for hope of a brighter future, and I applaud them. The haters can keep on hating, because we have hope of America actually being the greatest country in the world. We have hope that democracy can and will work for the people willing to take a stand.

    • Scott Alan

      We are not a democracy. Nice try though.

      • Exp

        And THAT is why they are protesting. We aren’t the Democracy that the forefathers envisioned. Of course the Tea Partiers ( Doesn’t TP just sound apropos?) should understand that because they’ve been beating the Forefather horse since they started.

        • Rasputin

          Our forefathers envisioned a Republic, and that is what we are.

          • Citizen

            However, Rasputin, our forefathers did NOT envision a plutocracy or a corporatist state which is exactly what we have become and what these protesters are against.

  • Jackie

    Why not get a job as a part time cop and guard themselves.

    • What What

      They do guard themselves. They have their own security team, sanitation, etc.

  • MPLS Resident

    Nice how the City can find money in the budget for this when they won’t hire more cops and downsize the fire department. Glad to see the City has its priorities straight. They should have gone in on the first day and cleaned them out to save the City money it doesn’t have. I think they should send the overtime bill to the group that organized the protest instead of having it come out of my pocket.

    • Clyde

      There is no law against peaceably assembling. Perhapss the city should save money and only come if there is a complaint.

  • Jake

    Yeah, thanks protesters, for sticking the taxpayers with yet another unwanted, unneeded, and senseless bill. I hope that this comes back to haunt you when your gov’t bennies have run out for good and you can’t find a job because a future potential employer refuses to hire you because of your actions now.

    • jackactionhero

      It is our right as Americans to assemble and protest. The government has to deal with it, and so do you, Jake.

  • Common sense

    Oh come on! If you read the article, it was the businesses downtown that called in the police.

    The police should bill these businesses since they want extra protection to help soothe their fears. The protestors have the right to protest, it’s a constitutional thing, just as bearing arms is constutional right. You take one away, you might as well take away the other.

    I love it that people still think that they can have their cake and eat it too.

    The I-factor is very high on the board tonight!

  • Jake

    No they shouldn’t, unCommon sense. They should bill the protesters. I also got confirmation on what the protesters want. They, along with moveon.org, want ALL of their student loans ‘forgiven’. Rubbish. Clean yourselves up, get a job, and pay back your loans. You want respect, that’s a good way to start earning it.

  • Hyacinths

    Jake, I love how casually people like you shout out, “Get a job.” Do you not get it that these people WANT and have SOUGHT jobs, month after month, some of them for YEARS? Sneering at the unemployed & desperate in the worst economy since the Great Depression takes quite a failure of empathy and compassion.

    My husband sought a job for 15 months straight. Know how many interviews he got in those 15 months? Three. Callbacks? None. And this is a guy with a college degree, valuable IT skills, and plenty of experience. “Get a job,” you say, as though it were the simplest thing in the world in a job market that’s been stagnant at 9-10% unemployment for YEARS. Dozens of applicants for every job. Rampant discrimination against the long-term unemployment.

    Millions of jobs have evaporated in this country. Millions. They’re not coming back. The government is bailing out the giant corporations that caused our home equity and retirement savings to plummet , but doing nothing to create jobs for those who desperately want and need them.

    • Hank

      I believe its 7% or so in this state and less in others. There are plenty of jobs available, maybe not the one you want but jobs none the less. It is not going to get a lot better until Obama is out of office and his anti-business agenda is gone so take what you can get until then.

      • Darryl

        I would really doubt that you are a professional employee.. Do you really think someone will hire oveerqualified people for their jobs? Use a quarter of the halff brain you have.. Unemployment numbers only reflect those collecting unemployment, not the people without a job

    • Jake

      Well, I know of three people who have found a full time job in the past year, and they didn’t even have a degree. So soddy if some can’t find their ‘dream job’, sometimes you have to take what you can get, You might have to move, even to another state, work nights, weekends, etc. I know one thing though, you won’t find it down at Occupy MN.

      • Citizen

        @Jake. The reason your nondegreed friends found jobs is that most jobs in this economy don’t require a college degree–barely require a high school degree. And, you don’t get hired if you are old or disabled. Go far away, Jake, and quit posting your redneck nonsense.

        • Jake

          Wrong, Sooooo wrong, citizen. My job requires a lot of training, expertise, experience, and organization in order to do it well. Two of the three who I know who got jobs were near the age of 50, and I guarantee you that most high school grads, and few with a 2 year degree or certificate could do their jobs as well. Of course, they have good credit histories, don’t hit on the bong, or have criminal records. They also show up for work everyday and on time. Go take your elitist BS somewhere else. Take that big chip off of your shoulder and break a sweat for awhile…. might actually do you some good. These two have built homes, gone to school beyond high school, and one has raised 3 decent children.

    • jackactionhero

      I’ve been doing IT for 15 years. In between jobs, I’ve never gone more than 6 weeks without a job.

      I don’t think your husband has as vaulable of skills as he is making you believe he does.

      Earlier in the year I was out of a job for 5 weeks. I had dozens and dozens of calls, 4 interviews, 4 call back interviews, and 3 job offers.

      • Jake

        Well JACK, maybe you could steer some of the homeless (or soon to be homeless) in that crowd towards all of those great job offers that you are turning down, so they can pay back their student loans, instead of begging for a gov’t bailout, which is really what this is about, isn’t it?

    • just addin

      Federal Government doesn’t create jobs. Only temporary. Get that fact in your head.

    • why you can't get a job

      Not saying this about your husband – but some of those protesters not able to find jobs…

      How about pulling up your pants, getting those STUPID stretched out ear lobes fixed, turn your hat around, remove the tattoos from your neck and face, get rid of that crazy pink and blue hair and those stupid facial piercings… then maybe, JUST MAYBE you’d have a better chance at getting a professional postition.

      • jackactionhero

        “How about pulling up your pants, getting those STUPID stretched out ear lobes fixed, turn your hat around, remove the tattoos from your neck and face, get rid of that crazy pink and blue hair and those stupid facial piercings… then maybe, JUST MAYBE you’d have a better chance at getting a professional postition.”

        Are you declaring that the protestors are these people? How can you seriously be this stupid?

  • Kevin

    SInce they are raising money to keep them going…why not charge them for being there? A protest is ok….but why should tax payers have to pay for this garbage….

    • huh?

      How about an even trade Kev? When you and the other elders need to go protest your right to your own devalued social security at the age of 72, we will support you and not bill you for the garbage collection.

    • repub

      They are a responsible and peaceful protest. With security.

      Why are these departments WASTING taxpaying dollars increasing enforcement. 2 weeks and no arrests.

      Who’s garbage, really?

  • Billy

    I still have no idea why you stinking brat hippie-want-to-bes are protesting. The only I can figure out is that you are jealous of people that are happy. If you have a bad life, end it. Just look at the group of outcast these protest create. These are the same freaks back in high school that were mad at the world be cause of their own looks ect. 3 years and 5 trillion in new debt and the Demofucs still blame Bush.

    • Realist

      You know why the liberal blame Bush? Because he helped pave the way for this mess. I’m sick of the right pointing fingers at the left, and the left pointing fingers at the right. Both sides are to blame, and the sooner you wake up and realize this, the sooner we might be able to get some real change around here. Down with the Plutocrats!

    • Reality sucks

      Not so long ago, when income inequality reached these levels and corporations ran amok— Teddy Roosevelt enforced a rule of law. After the crash of the stock market in the ‘20s— FDR’s New Deal saved the economy. In this country, it’s standard to have a social movement to combat abuse of power—we are not a nation of sheep. It’s what we do, it’s what we need—and that’s what the Occupiers represent, albeit not perfectly or coherently. Not every movement produces a Martin Luther King! We are being run into the ground by a collective Hoover mentality in Washington. If you can’t put all of this together or see the obvious correlation, you need to brush up on your history. We are living in a debased middle-class society that average Americans worked hard to build via civil rights, labor laws, and the basic notion of a standard of living. While the middle-class was accomplishing that, THEY…Deregulated Wall Street, De-legitimized government, Corrupted our political body through campaign finance, and—MOST IMPORTANTLY— “Super-PACed” the Oval Office with individuals dancing through the back door that connects Wall Street to the White House. I’m tired of it. It will take a strong, bold, scary leader to fix this and a populace brave and unified enough to vote for it — we need these protests…and a third Roosevelt.

      • The New Deal myth

        The idea that The New Deal saved our economy is a myth. The sad fact is economists still don’t know what it would take to recover in peacetime from a deep recession. What really brought us out of the Great Depression was weapons sales to our allies, and then the entire conversion of our economy to the production of war materials when we entered the war. We emerged from the conflict as one of the only industrial powers untouched by war. This dominant position allowed us to avoid the usual post-war economic slump such as we suffered following WWI. Roosevelt’s New Deal was the best he could do and had to be done, but by 1937 it was clear that the U.S. economy was still deep in depression.

        • Citizen

          @The New Deal myth. You are right to a point. But FCR’s New Deal put money back into the hands of the poor and middle class and they started consuming because they had to. The poor and middle class spend most of their money contrary to the wealthy. Hard to separate the delayed spending stimulus of the New Deal with the fact that the war intruded at the same time. The important thing to remember was that the prosperity of the 1950’s is largely due to taxes on the wealthy at 94% in order to pay for WWII. Contrast with Bush II cutting taxes on the wealthy to 35% while trying to fund two wars at the same time–both of which have lasted twice as long as WWII (that’s like funding 4 WWII’s!). A sure fire recipe for the disaster we now face. Bush II almost bankrupted Texas. Should come as no surprise that his policies which we are still digging out from (and the GOP doesn’t want to change), have almost bankrupted the U.S.

          • Citizen

            Sorry. Should be FDR! Typing too fast.

            • The New Deal myth

              As I stated, The New Deal had to be done. Unfortunately it didn’t really stimulate the economy. I agree with you that it put some money back into people’s hands, but it never went beyond a form of direct relief. I think that any spending stimulus would have showed some sort of effect before arms production began in the late ’30s. Sales to belligerents and the Lend-Lease programs seem to be what really primed the pump. It’s true that the wealthy did pay more taxes in the post war period, but it was our economic dominance that really mattered. The economies of Europe were physically shattered, and we were one of the only sources for just about everything until they revived. I think your point about spending is very important. Income inequality had a very destructive effect on the economy during the superficial prosperity of the ’20s. I find corporate America’s unwillingness to hire while sitting on record cash reserves mystifying. In the end they are cutting their own throats. If people have no jobs and money to spend, the economy will continue to stagnate or even spiral downwards.

              • Citizen

                Right. And China is now feeling the result of U.S. consumers having little extra cash to spend. China is now reaping the result of its own success and monetary manipulation. Welcome, China, to the world of capitalism! I am interested to see how China and Brazil’s bailout of the IMF goes.

      • Citizen

        Periodically, Reality, citizens of a free country have to step up and put themselves on the line. The pendulum of any system always swings from one extreme to another, rarely staying in the middle. Our financial system has now swung to an extreme and needs correction by the people because it is obvious that our bought-and-paid-for politicians and greedy corporations will just continue on their not-so-merry ways reaping the benefits of the extremes. Time for a correction, yes! None of the current crop of laughable GOP candidates or President Obama seem capable of Roosevelt’s strength or vision. I think Hillary Clinton COULD be that person.

        • Reality sucks


  • Justme

    do you ever wonder the age of these people who are against the protest? here is a little something about me I am 49 years old have a wife and kid own a home and have a job plus my hair is short and I don’t smoke pot or drink or even smoke cigarettes anymore and what they are doing should have been done a long time ago before we got to this point but we have been asleep and are just waking up to find the mess we are in. and guess what it is both parties that can take the blame for this, yes the both sold us out and it might be to late for me but let them save their future we had our chance and we blew it

    • jackactionhero


      Amen, brother.

      I’m 37, have a wife and 5 kids. I own a home and pay taxes. I’m gainfully employed FT, as is my wife.

      I don’t smoke, don’t have long, shaggy hair, and don’t have earrings or look scruffy.

      I hope these protests gain momentum and I hope they do it on a global scale. Enough is enough with the richest among us doing only what’s necessary to remain the richest among us. Why can a CEO give himself a 10 million dollar bonus while laying off hundreds of $15/hr employees and claiming bankruptcy for the company? Why is that ok?

      Why do congressmen get free healthcare for life, but combat veterans don’t?

      Why does someone making $23 million per year pay a lower percentage in income tax than someone making $23,001 per year?

      Why is that ok?

      Why should we not protest until EVERYONE takes notice?

      • Jake

        Last I heard JACK, someone making $23,000 + 1 is at the LOWEST income tax rate in the country, and if that person has a couple of kids, they most likely pay ZERO NET FEDERAL INCOME TAXES, PLUS, they probably get food stamps, subsidized housing, education grants, medicaid, and a TAX REFUND every February. So, millionaires get all that? Sure maybe some do, if they don’t work, and most of their income is investment income or social security, like DAYTON. Maybe if obama had initially focused on the millionaires, instead of those making $250K a year in his income tax proposals, he wouldn’t have hit a concrete wall.

  • OccupyMyPants

    OccupyMn has their own security and sanitation. H.C.S.D and M.P.D choose to spend all the overtime and money.

    It is a peaceful protest of responsible members of our society. They have jobs, careers, and families. They are educated and expressing their 1st amendment rights.

    No one has been arrested. The police departments in question are wasting the taxpayer’s dollars. Not the protests.

  • Craig

    The people down there are intelligent, have legitimate grievances, and only 1 person was arrested and let go. They run police cameras there all day, that must be expensive. They don’t need to be there. Occupy Minnesota has the RIGHT to be there and protest.

    • just sayin

      Oh I am so sure they are intelligent. They all have mixed complaints.
      They just want to hold hands and drink kool-aid and sing.


  • Look_It_Up

    If the protesters stay there long enough the powers that be will order the Sheriffs men to force them out just like they did back in the 1950’s to the homeless that lived in the Camden area on the river flats. They threw them out in the cold, and burnt down the shanties they called home.

  • Doug Farone

    I am read some of these comments about get a job, but did you know there is a lot of age discrimination going on against the older people. Why would a company hire a guy in his 50 when they can hire that young kid who has a body that is not beaten up or is young enough to come with younger views for ideas or what ever they on in the white collar world. and how do you prove age discrimination?

    • Jake

      A lot of companies would be glad to hire someone who is 50 years old, if they aren’t FAT, if they have some useful skills, if they are reliable and have a good work history, if they don’t have multiple DUI’s or drug history, and have good references. My company has hired several of these types over the past few years. Many companies appreciate the work ethic of many of this generation. They don’t need to be babysat or lectured to often, and for some reason, not many of them have ADHD, ADD, or some other self-discipline problem.

    • just sayin

      Well, those young individuals will also be in your position when they hit 50.

      You gotta remember, that as technology evolves, so does your level of education. Computer skills – thats been a HUGE factor over the last 20 years.

      • discrimination

        And what does this have to do with age discrimination? form what I am reading you seem fine with age discrimination

        • Citizen

          @discrimination. Age discrimination has little to do with a skill set and a LOT to do with several other things: more expensive health benefits for older workers (if there are any health benefits). Older workers know a lot and know when labor laws are being broken and when other abuses happen and are more likely to stick up for themselves and their rights. Older workers often do know more than younger supervisors. Older workers are often more efficient and know HOW TO WORK more so than younger workers/managers so are a threat. Younger workers are gullible, naive, and much less apt to question unbridled management abuse. I think you get the idea.

          • Reality sucks

            Citizen, did you read about the China loan mess today? WOW!

            • Citizen

              Which mess is that, Reality? The one where China and Brazill are probably going to have to bail out the IMF?

              • Reality sucks

                No! It’s breaking now. They are starting the crash process…housing, bad loans, debt, bank bailouts, hoarding of U.S dollars, and they didn’t buy one single U.S. Treasury at the recent auction. Because of their system, we are trying to untangle it. Top that with Greece burning. Interesting news day.

                • Citizen

                  I skimmed the article on Greece burning. Very interesting, very complex and volatile situation in the part of the world where Democracy was born. And… that show perhaps coming to a theater near you? Can’t find much on the Chinese issue except that they think U.S. treasuries are not safe enough and are manipulating their dollar and fighting inflation at the same time. All these situations are quite predictable due to the incredible financial squeeze on the majority of the world’s citizens right now. People will do what they have to survive. Janis Joplin said it best, “Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”

  • Realist

    This isn’t the 1950’s…

  • have a good day

    well I had enough reading silly comments of the far right(bible thumping people for one day) and how they think the rest of are pot smoking,jobless hippies, well I have I have to put down my bong(by they way I don’t do drugs,drink or smoke cigs) and go to work now. Have a good day to all my want to live in the south rednecks and bible humping people

    • Kevin

      Say….you have a good day too! What a nice little casturate# liberal. He makes me feel all fuzzy inside. I feel like not showering, putting on ratty clothes, and heading down to the Occupy MN protest! I will demand a 3 day work week! A 50% pay increase! A free car of my choice each year! Free cable, with the playboy channel (grrr)! Free whiskey every wednesday! I will also demand terrible, painful, things to all bank and wall street people (except hottie babe tellers, they can live).

      • jackactionhero

        None of those things are being sought.

        Why do you seek to sink their movement by lying about what they are organizing to protest? Are you that disrespectful?

  • Joshua

    Stay Put, I appreciate 99%

    • Reality sucks

      While Greece is in flames, Spain is tanking (Italy and Ireland too), China is falling off their self-made corrupt cliff and the U.S waits with a MOUNTAIN of financed debt….you just stay put and see how long you can appreciate that 99%.

      • Realist

        Are you suggesting we keep going along with the status quo and simply ignore the problem?

        • Jake

          No, the status quo is unsustainable. Both the rich and the poor, who have been living off of the gov’t for too long, need to contribute more. Stop bashing our military. THEY don’t decide when and where to fight, the politicians do. Deport the illegal aliens. The rich need to pay more, and the poor need to re-learn how to work for a living. You college kids, who earned worthless degrees, need to start paying down your personal debt, the party is OVER. No more taxpayer-funded stadiums for millionaires and billionaires. Learn a USEFUL skill, instead of complaining that nobody will give you that dream job just because you got a worthless degree.

        • Reality sucks

          No Realist, if you would read what I wrote above, you’d know that.

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