Wis. Bill Places New Requirements On Abortions

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A Republican-backed bill would place new requirements on women seeking abortions in Wisconsin.

The measure by Republican Sen. Mary Lazich of New Berlin would require that women receiving drugs to induce abortions must have a doctor first perform a physical exam and be in the same room with her where the drugs are administered.

Anyone violating that requirement would be guilty of a felony.

The bill also requires that doctors speak privately with women seeking abortions to make sure they are making the decision on their own and not influenced by others.

Opponents say the proposal before the Senate Health Committee on Tuesday is designed to make it harder for women to obtain abortions.

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  • Citizen

    Another bill from the GOP to regulate our lives–this from the party that wants “minimal government intrusion” into, oh, let me guess, only those things that they want minimal intrusion into. Women, gay rights, unions…you all deserve MAXIMUM government intrusion into your lives. The party of hypocrisy rolls on…

  • yes indeed

    Well – the GOP never claimed to be Saints now,,,,oh damkit, they do mostly. The less gubbermint high raod and leave us alone party. LMAO – yep, the GOP is indeed the Party of Hypocrites

  • Tom

    I thought the GOP believed in keeping Gov’t out of our personal lives? But their actions speak differently. I guess their view is we are for keeping gov’t out of our personal lives, just as long as it doesn’t offend us in the GOP. This is mostly to score brownie points with nutty social conservatives!

    They are biggest HYPOCRITS!

    But we know what the Social Conservatives “mantra” is you keep your nose out of our business, but we have every right sticking our nutty nose into yours!

  • Ace

    They want women to have a baby every year so there will be more people to buy things but they’ll only succeed in getting more people on welfare. Stupid!!!

    • Peace

      So we should kill children to eliminate welfare? Really? Maybe it’s time that someone stuck up for the most vulnerable in our society.

      • Citizen

        The most vulnerable in our society are all of us except the 1%, Peace. Most of us are just a couple of paychecks away from home foreclosure, or going to a food shelf, or asking for help from the Salvation Army. What’s the poverty rate for children BORN these days? 1 in 4? What’s the status of U.S. health care–35th in the world, and 30th in childhood survival? Yeah, let’s worry a lot about unborn fetuses–we can’t take care of the babies, adults, and elderly who are already here.

        • DougT

          You must be refereeing to the vulnerable that were lucky enough to be born……

          • Citizen

            By all means, DougT, let’s turn the world into a human feedlot. Abortion has been practiced throughout human history in various forms. It is one weapon in the arsenal of population control. It is one of the least objectionable. Beats puting the elderly out onto ice flows to die. Beats pandemic diseases such as the black plague which had part of its origin in overpopulation. Prevents starvation such as in the Sudan. Beats genocide by warring armies. Take your pick….

            • DougT

              So you are saying humans can not control them selves and will always act like low culture animals ?

              Population is the enemy? Ahh Statis types. Who is going to pay for all the charity we give out to the elderly and needy? Productive workers. Population is not the enemy – foolish government programs and directives are.

              BTW – who gets to decides what population number is the “best”?

              And really people there is more to life than sex…..


      • Tom

        @ Peace

        Or maybe you should keep your nose out of someone elses business!

  • maxey

    It’s simple, really. They want government in the most pesonal aspects our lives, whether it’s religion or reproduction. They just don’t want government in our gun cabinets.

    • DougT

      No – some of us productive members of society that have the ability to think and plan our lives, take responsibility for our actions. You do not want babies – then what are you doing having sex?

      The poverty rate for children is directly connected to being born into single mom households. There are all sorts of solutions for this – killing the result of your bad “choices” should not be one of them.

      Lets start working on solutions to the cause of all these women making bad “choices” rather than the symptom of unwanted pregnancy’s .

      • Mark


        Your words – ” killing the result of your bad “choices” should not be one of them”.

        If these words are true, then capital punishment should also be abolished too?

        Isn’t Capital punishment nothing more than retroactive abortion, or state sanctioned murder? If icapital punishment is not murder, then why i s the cause of death listed on an executed prison inmate listed as “homicide”?

        I agree with those who state that this is just further intrusion in our lives. I say if you do not wish to have an abortion, DON’T HAVE ONE!

      • Citizen

        Accidents happen….oh, I forgot. You religious conservatives are morally perfect, and the rest of us are just sinners with bad options….

        • DougT

          Dang – over 4 million abortions each year – that’s a lot of accidents…..

          (and a wee bit of inconvenience)

          • Citizen

            We aren’t talking worldwide statistics, Doug, just the U.S. and Wisconsin–less than a million. Yet another lie from a conservative. You guys just can’t stick with the truth if you see an opportunity to twist it to your viewpoint.

            • DougT

              Ah, no… 4 million is the US statistic

              So who are you carrying water for?

              • DougT

                But true – not all states report their totals..

                How about this number “…since 1973, roughly 50 million legal induced abortions have been performed in the United States”


                Again from the states that make these numbers available – so understandably they may well be higher….

      • jackactionhero

        “There are all sorts of solutions for this – killing the result of your bad “choices” should not be one of them.”

        But that’s only up to you, FOR you. Not everybody else.

        • DougT

          Ok – its the “but who are we to judge” crowd – well we are the rest of society and we define what is acceptable and what is not. We are the 99%!! (to borrow a phrase which in this case is more numerically correct)

          Your body – you get to decide? Fine – but you already decided when you got into bed – the rest is academic

  • G Dog

    Still waiting for Walker to push for:

    – banning inter-racial marriages.
    -banning dancing because it causes carnal urges
    – requiring women to wear skirts that reach the ground
    – requiring men and women to sit on separate sides of the church
    – making divorce illegal.

  • Out of my Life

    Fantastic, More babies more welfare recipients.

    • Our Life not yours

      What if someone had told that to your mother before she had you?

      • Out of my Life

        I don’t live life on “what if’s”

        • Her life not yours

          And some women are terrorized by what if’s for their entire lives due to somebody else’s influence on her decision to give birth to her own child.

          • jackactionhero

            They are? Which women?

            Do you have statistics on this or are you just making stuff up to try to bolster your argument…

  • Out of Proportion

    In no way shape or form is Walker trying to ban abortions. The bill would only make them safer and prevent a woman from having an abortion due to somebody else’s decision as opposed to her own decision.

    Did anyone read the article? It’s fairly short some of you guys should take time to do so.

    • Citizen

      The “morning after” pill is perfectly safe. This is Walker’s version of trying to intimidate a woman’s right to choose as protected by Roe v. Wade. More conservative social engineering from the party that wants less government in our lives. Pair these laws chipping away at a woman’s right to choose, along with the defunding of Planned Parenthood, and what you get are people without access to health insurance, health care, and affordable birth control having unwanted babies. These “laws” discriminate against the poor, the un/underemployed, and the uneducated. But, hey, that’s what the religious right wants, right? More babies born to be then ignored; babies whose parents lose jobs, homes, and have to go to a food shelf to feed those babies. What a perverted vision. What a backhanded insult to a woman and a professional doctor that a decision can’t be made in the privacy of an exam room without government interference and a checklist of things the doctor must say and the woman must respond to.

      • DFL extremists are just as bad.

        “The bill also requires that doctors speak privately with women seeking abortions to make sure they are making the decision on their own and not influenced by others”. What is so bad about that citizen? Have you ever met a woman who’s decision to abort was influenced somebody else? It could have some pretty serious long term psychological effects.

        It appears that your views are based on a grudge towards a political party as opposed to the actual issue at hand like 90% of all other politically involved Americans. I can see that every time you post a comment on any article and that’s sad.

        • Citizen

          At DFL, I challenge you to name any decision in your life that was not “influenced by someone else.” That is impossible since all our thoughts from the time we are born are implanted by someone else. A very disingenuous argument clothed to control women’s right to choose which is a platform of the GOP. So, yes, my views are based on disgust toward the ill-disguised motive of the GOP to roll back Roe v. Wade. You need to grow up and face reality. If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament of the church! And there would be no “counseling”….

          • You knew that.

            All of my views are based on some sort of influence by someone else. But they are not imposed on me against my ability to choose for myself which is what I was implying in the first place, which is also what half of the bill is trying to protect against.

            • Citizen

              The implication is that women cannot make their own decisions. Period.

              • NAS

                No, the reality that there are women out there that are making these decisions against their will out of fear because of someone elses involvment in the decision. That is what that part of the bill is protecting them against. Period.

                • jackactionhero

                  ” the reality that there are women out there that are making these decisions against their will out of fear because of someone elses involvment in the decision.”

                  What statistical information are you basing that declaration on, NAS?

      • DougT

        Roe v. Wade – definition of “whole cloth”

        Roe VS Wade – definition of personal responsibility loop hole

        Roe VS Wade – definition of Licence to Kill

      • Get Real

        Your allegations in regards to this bill sound more like a conspiracy theory than anything.

        • DougT

          No – just stating my opinion :)

          (based on legal theory, common sense etc… Not all drink the mass media, narrative Kool Aid)

          • Get Real

            I wasn’t even referring to you Doug. I was referring to the one sided, stubborn, political extremist above.

      • Betty

        Um, Scott Walker did not have anything to do with this bill. Not sure if you read the article but it appears it was Mary Lazich from New Berlin. What part of this bill is intimdation? The required physical exam or that the doctor be present when the drugs are administered?

        • NAS

          Mary Lazich has to bring the bill to Scott Walker so yes, he does or he will have something to do with it… and no part of this bill has anything to do with intimidation so you’re right (aside from spelling of intimidation)

  • Citizen

    To all the posters above who think that women are timid, terrified creatures who cannot make important decisions, I will tell you that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land. The GOP and religious zealots have made it their agenda to repeal this law, by chipping away at it with laws like this one, and through influencing gullible people that it is bad law. It remains a fact of life, that if women cannot easily get legal abortions, they will get them any way they can if they want to. Wealthy women have always gone overseas to countries that don’t seem to have the moral dilemmas that we here in the U.S. agonize over. Poor women go to “back alley bu tchers.” Roe v. Wade made honest women out of those who wanted abortions. The GOP seeks to turn back the clock once again to the “good old days” that crim inalized women and their decisions.

    • DougT

      sigh… where to begin

      Its not just “republicans” that have come to regret this decision by the supreme court (who found a special “right out of whole cloth” ) Its also many independents and democrats whom have come to realize the absolute disaster this decision has created

      Today women are still getting lousily pregnancy counseling from such groups as “planned parenthood” – lets just call it abortion for profit – they make lots of money doing it

      Even in the day – back street abortions were uncommon and this silly little thing call adoption was much in vogue and it worked well

      So before you start firing up the rhetoric – stop and think of all the damage this has done to women and society – and perhaps lets correct the error.

      • jackactionhero

        Correct the error by making criminals out of women for having abortions?

        Why do you feel this is your business?

    • jackactionhero

      Quite right indeed, Citizen. Spot on.

    • dan

      Kind of Like Obama chipping away at the Constitution.

  • Callina

    A woman of child-bearing age has a right no one else in the country has… the right to kill another human being simply because she wants to.

    How does having a doctor in the room prevent the abortion?

    It sounds like this measure is meant to make women safer, not steal away rights. Perhaps many of you are unaware how many women die. or have terrible complications from abortion. Recent analyses of large medical databases that link to death certificates show that pregnancy-associated deaths are between two and four times higher for women who abort than for women who deliver.

    • Citizen

      The doctor will be in the room at the time of the abortion. The patient can call off the abortion at any time before it is started. All doctors counsel patients on any surgical procedure and its attendant risks before the procedure. And, carrying a child to term and childbirth have much greater risks than abortion, especially since most abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of life.

    • jackactionhero

      You haven’t given any valid reasons why abortions should be illegal, or women who have them should be punished.

      Wasn’t that your point to begin with?

  • StraycatStrut

    Democats are lucky to have been born before Roe/Wade… or they would most definitely be aborted by now. Count your blessings. Lets change the subject and talk about saving the Whales.

  • Obv.

    Gotta slow you tramps down somehow.

  • Murph

    Soon ,married men will need to have a note from their wives to purchase erection enhancement drugs. Single men would not be allowed to leave the house without wearing a chastity cone over their offending member and the fine for tampering with it will be enormously expensive! Yes the new age of fascist control is right around the corner at your assigned voting location.Be sure to have all your licenses,an official Norquist pledge of full conspiracy and probably a note from your employer for entry into the voting area.Suit coat and tie plus wing tips are the preferred voting uniform and those voters not wearing them will have to stand in the peasant line and not one of the express lines!

  • Michael Jacobs

    Abortion is a minor issue. That said, where, oh where, are the JOBS BILLS so sadly needed to get this country back on it’s feet. We gave the tax extensions that were the ‘job killers’; and yet, the Party of NO still drags it’s feet messing with the lives of individuals on items like DADT, Defense of some people’s definition of marriage, the ‘right’ to have a lethal weapon upon one’s person-no matter where they are. Yep, the party of “less government in people’s lives”. STILL, NO JOBS BILLS. Sorry GOP, the 1940’s and 50’s are but pages in the history books. MOVE ALONG NOW…..

  • Ted

    Next we’ll be doing hand stands and donating a certain amount to get abortions. Don’t forget the required 3 apples and 4 bananas to get your abortion too or we’ll give you a felony!

    • jackactionhero



  • robert

    How you liking those jobs that the Republcians say they were going to creat?

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