Bill Would Require MN Abortion Clinics To Be Licensed

ST. PAUL (WCCO) — A Minnesota House Committee approved a bill Wednesday to require a state license for a medical facility, but only one type: Clinics that perform abortions.

The bill would require clinics that perform 10 or more abortions per month to be licensed and regulated by Minnesota’s Department of Health. That’s essentially Planned Parenthood in Minnesota, but it also includes seven other facilities.

The bill was promoted by the state’s largest anti-abortion group, Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life (MCCL). They came after dangerous and unsanitary conditions were found at a Pennsylvania clinic.

“The conditions at the clinic in Pennsylvania went on for years,” said Andre Rau, a lobbyist for MCCL. “Before it became public and the clinic was shut down, two women lost their lives at the clinic, and that’s a terrible thing.”

The bill would also authorize the state commissioner of health to perform inspections of the facility as deemed necessary and without prior notice required.

Opponents, however, are clearly frustrated, calling it “another ‘hate Minnesota’ bill.”

“We just can’t do anything right here,” said Rep. Bev Scalze, (DFL-Little Canada), sarcastically. “We are just so bad and everything is so wrong here. Because somebody did something wrong in Pennsylvania, we are no good in Minnesota.”

The state does not regulate other medical clinics that perform outpatient procedures, like vasectomies or minor surgery. It does regulate medical providers however.

That’s partly why opponents say this is directed only at abortion and not any other procedures.

This bill is also moving forward in the Senate. It is considered the MCCL’s top legislative priority this year.

  • G Dog

    The wacko Right continues its onslaught on mainstream America. Is there no one right of center who has the guts to stand up to the Pharisees who are threatening our democracy with their dreams of an American version of Iranian rule by religion?????

    • BB

      Yup, the Christian Taliban are alive and well in Minnesota.

      • David J. Conklin

        It is said that when fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the Cross.

        And given some of the posts here, apparently they’ll also denounce those who oppose them as being psychologically unfit to live in the same world as the rest of us.

  • Patrick

    Don’t worry, when Dayton shoots it down these loonies will just try to put it in the state constitution instead.

  • Matt Munson

    The department of health also monitors tattoo and piercing shops so I don’t find it too odd that they also check in on shops that perform much more invasive procedures. I’m surprised to hear they don’t check on medical clinics. Anyone know what the definition of a medical clinic is compared to a medical provider?

  • Brett

    It’s impossible for me to believe that a “facility” that performs abortions does NOT have a MEDICAL license. For REAL??

    • Carly

      I think you may have misunderstood that article, ALL medical providers in the state of MN are licensed. Any clinic that does out-patient surgery is not licensed.

  • Bubba

    Another classic, trying to change something that doesn’t need changing. Fixing problems that don’t exist. This Republican Party is laughable in their mantra of less government. Totally inserting their will into everyone’s lives. Get their sleazy a**es out of there in November.

    • Niki

      Wow, you really think that women dieing from botched abortions or due to unsafe unsanitary conditions is not a problem? I’m not saying that that is going on in MN, but shouldn’t we prevent it before it does!?! I am all for abortion clinics having to have a license and follow some rules, check in to someone…and no I’m not a right wing nut! They are not inserting their will into everyone’s life, they are looking out for the safety of women…if your daughter chose to have an abortion wouldn’t you want to know it was done somewhere safe!?!

      • Observer

        @Niki. All medical procedures and medications come with risks. Just listen to TV ads, if nothing else. Minnesota should be proud of its track record. This is just a cry for “less” government regulation of private industry by the GOP! (Hopefully, everyone reading this understands the sarcasm!) And yet another “solution” in search of a problem.

        • missy

          @Observer, why don’t you say that to the family of the women in Pennsylvania who lost their lives due to the horrible conditions of that particular facility. It bugs me to no end that abortion proponents claim over and over again that they are trying to protect women from unsafe abortions, yet they resist every possible mandate that would ensure such safety.

          • Observer

            So, missy, what is your comment about all the women who die in childbirth every year–way more than die from an abortion. Childbirth is riskier, by far, yet you would condemn every woman to carry a pregnancy to term regardless of medical consequences because of your personal philosophy that abortion is wrong. Once again, abortion is LEGAL, it is a medical procedure, and all medical procedures carry a certain degree of risk. And childbirth is extremely risky, too.

            • missy

              @Observer, if a woman dies in childbirth in a licensed medical facility, there is an investigation performed to see if anyone was negligent. Why do you think doctors have to pay for medical malpractice insurance?

              • Observer

                Gee, I don’t know, Niki, why do doctors have to pay for medical malpractice insurance? Could it possibly be because they make mistakes, and are human, just like all those women getting pregnant wilfully and negligently, and having negligent, unprotected sex? And then just carelessly aborting all those unwanted babies? Sarcasm, here.

                • Niki

                  I didn’t write that comment, take time to read and not assume

              • The Old Nurse

                If a person dies during an outpatient procedure there will also be an investigation. If it is found the phsician is not following standards that physician’s license will be restricted. So why would there need to be another level of reguations and people seeking fees? Can you find one example in the state of Minnesota where a person died from a procedure much less an abortion?

                • David J. Conklin

                  You mean like the guy who died just this last year from falling off the operating table?

  • DougT

    Brett – I agree! This is something people would be against?

    But of course the lefty side just cant understand anything logical or sensible – so they start the name calling…Must be that we dare say anything against the “Holy Church of “”Planned”” Parenthood!….

    And wel should regulate ALL of them – ie…..”The state does not regulate other medical clinics that perform outpatient procedures, like vasectomies or minor surgery….:

  • Mary W

    It’s incomprehensible to me that anyone would be against licensing any kind of medical clinic. What are you all scared of? This is not about left and right, but it is about making a sensible change.

    • Barb Altman Cline

      It is not about licensing any kind of medical clinic, the only clinics to be licened are those that preform 10 or more abortions a year.

      That will make them targets, their names will be a part of a public record. Remember Dr. Tiller and FOX news?

  • fkafka

    I’m an idiot!! I assumed they must have been licensed already and now to discover it was a free for all? Are all medical procedures in the state just ad hoc? With Minnesota being a state with absolutley every law, it would have expected it to be licensed. I’ve been an idiot and now I admit it.

  • Jason

    I guess abortion is just another medical procedure, like lipo, having tonsils removed or a cortizone shot in the knee.

    • Observer

      Yes, Jason, it is just another medical procedure, and it is a LEGAL procedure as decided by the Supreme Court of the U.S. in Roe v. Wade. A LEGAL procedure….

      • Niki

        Yes it is legal, but so is alcohol….and they both kill.

        • Observer

          @Niki. Life ends at death. We all die–some of us sooner than others. Alcohol kills way more often than abortion or any other medical procedure. What is your point? Abortion is legal. If you don’t approve, please feel free not to have one. But you need to keep your opinions just that–yours. The rest of us do not need to be afflicted with them. You have freedom of speech, but the rest of us also have freedom FROM your speech. Get it? We have freedom not to listen to you “beating the dead horse” of abortion is wrong–it is LEGAL.

          • Niki

            This death is caused by someone else. Children, unborn or born, should not be punished for their parent’s careless actions and irresponsibility. We are all entitled to our own opinions, and simply not agreeing with me does not make me shut up.

            • Observer

              Again, abortion is LEGAL. You are free to not have one. I think you should keep posting, because as you post you alienate a lot of people to your supposed cause of eliminating abortion. Shrillness and being judgmental do not win over others to your cause.

              • Niki

                I’m not trying to win anyone over. You have your opinion and I have mine. Simply because I don’t agree with you does not make me wrong, and simply because something is legal does not make it “right.

                • Observer

                  Well, Niki, many U.S. states have the death penalty and many innocent people have been put to death in those states. Now, that is not right, either, but it is the law. Will you be railing against the death penalty any time soon? A woman’s decision is a LEGAL, individual decision in conjunction with the medical profession. At it stands legally, the morality of a woman’s decision is moot.

                • Observer

                  So, Niki, if you are for the death penalty, even if has quite often put an innocent life to death, how do you resolve the cognitive dissonance you spout of valuing the life of every fetus? Wasn’t that innocent person on death row, or even that guilty person, once a valued fetus in the womb (your words, not mine). Frankly, I don’t know how you can value human life in the womb and not value human life outside the womb. I would be most interested in hearing your justification of pulling the lever for the electric chair or inserting the lethal injection into another human.

                • Niki

                  i am all for the death penalty and think mn should reinstate it. i do not form my opinions based on political lines or religous teachings. if a woman is forced into sex, is made pregnant by incest or has medical/health complication then i think abortions should be available but not for someone that simply doesn’t want the inconvenience of a child. I just ask that people take responsibility for their own bodies and their own actions. I’m a democrat and a proud single mom.

                • The Old Nurse

                  @ observer. Of course Nikki will never answer your question if abortion is wrong than how is killing someone who may be innocent right. There is no way they can justify the two positions

  • David J. Conklin

    All medical facilities should have a license.

  • Pauline Overby

    What I do with my body is my business. Keep the governments nose out of it.

    If I have implants that up to me, If I have sex its up to me. any result of any sex I have is my business, you do not need to know it it was good for me.

    • Niki

      Getting pregnant and having an abortion has nothing to do with how good the sex was for you, it has to do with killing an unborn baby. It’s amazing how easily people pass this off. You wouldn’t let someone kill a child you have already given birth too so why can’t you protect the one in your stomach too. If you don’t want to get pregnant, use birth control, get a condom or should I say it…don’t have sex! If you aren’t adult enough to care for a child or have the decency to give it up for adoption then you have no place having sex. That is selfish to say that it’s your body, your body that is growing a baby in it. Getting implants and killing an unborn child because you cant take the time to act responsible are totally different animals.

      • Observer

        Abortion is LEGAL–get it? LEGAL.

      • Observer

        And, Niki, babies grow in a woman’s womb–not her stomach. Just an anatomical fact for your info.

        • Niki

          Thanks, I have two children and know where they come from. I also know how to prevent a pregnancy, something you may way to educate others on since you are so quick to judge and offer your opinion.

        • missy


          • Your high school English teacher

            Semantics are important and reflect a person’s ability to THINK!

            • David J. Conklin

              >”Semantics are important and reflect a person’s ability to THINK!”

              Right on! Far too many people don’t know how to think.

      • WiscBadger

        Well said Niki!

        • PoliticiansSUX

          I could not agree more, excellently stated Niki.

      • Molly

        Niki, mind your OWN business and keep YOUR legs closed to the idea of having more of YOU!

        • Niki

          If people didn’t feel the need to use abortion as birth control than I would have a much better time at keeping my mouth shut and minding my own business. I love and take care of my children.

          • Observer

            Once more, ad nauseum, for you, Niki. Abortion is the law of the land–it is LEGAL.

            • Niki

              Once again Observer, simply because something is legal does not make it morally sound. If you can justify killing an unborn child because you couldn’t take the time to use birth control that is your choice but I don’t have to agree with it or be quite about my opinion that that is irrisponsible and selfish.

              • Observer

                Keep posting, Niki, because we all know you are judgmental of others and condemn others for decisions about which you have no facts or knowledge–just an unsupported opinion that people use abortion as birth control. Sad for you that you think so little of women, condemn women and medical opinion, and generalize accordingly. Your world is pretty black.

                • Niki

                  If the woman can’t take care of another child she should not have sex, or should use birth control. I work with people who are disabeled and yes I believe that they have just as much right to life as you or I!

                • Niki

                  You are right, I am judgemental against people who makes selfish decisions. I believe abortions for those who have health concerns, or were forced into sex are good things. Those women should be protected! However, we both know that those are not the only women having abortions. My world is full of color, finger paintings and songs given to me by my children. Sorry if my opinion does not sync with yours, but that does not make me a hateful person. I advocate for children’s rights and their safety, both the born and unborn.

                • Observer

                  So, now abortion is a SELFISH decision? Please explain that. Selfish to perhaps abort a damaged fetus that if not terminated may need expensive medical care for the rest of its life? Selfish to abort a pregnancy that endangers the life of a mother who already needs to care for other children at home?

            • Observer

              Ah, Niki, people are going to have sex, whether they should or not–that is just reality. You are arguing from a highly idealistic, unreal position. The world does not turn on idealism–it is only part of the grease in the wheels. Abortion is LEGAL, it is an option that some choose, some do not, for various personal, individual reasons. Wouldn’t it be nice if no one had to choose abortion at all–but that will never be the case. And that, Niki, is reality. You are Don Quixote jousting against the windmill of human history with all its foibles.

              • Niki

                Yes you are right that people are going to have self whether they should or not, but that doesn’t make it ok and we shouldn’t have a legal out for them. Abortions should be available to those who NEED it and not those who WANT it in order to avoid a life changing inconcevience. So yes choosing abortion because you couldn’t take the time to use birth control is selfish. As for the death penalty…there is a difference between adult criminal and children. Also I have never said anything about every fetus…;those are your words. My problem is not with the doctors performing abortions ir’s with the brainless women using it as birth control.

        • WiscBadger

          It’s a shame your mother didn’t keep hers closed.

  • Paul Solinger

    Does anyone else see the irony? They want sanitary conditions to protect women’s health, but they don’t want to allow abortions to protect women’s health. They want to see all abortions outlawed, which would send women back to the alley and underground to receive abortions, again endangering their lives. Pathetic hypocrisy by the MCCL

    • Paul

      You mean how the fetus looks? Nope, I haven’t.

    • missy

      @Paul, it is a crime in this state, punishable by either heavy fines or jail time, to knowingly destroy the egg of an endagered bird because the egg has the potential to become said endagered bird. Funny, we find it worthy to protect a bird egg, but not a human embryo. And please don’t argue that humans aren’t endagered. The argument is about the protection of the egg because of its biological potential, yet a human embryo has no value until it’s breathing?

      • Disgusted with your philosophy and what's "right"

        7 billion people on the planet and counting–human life is very cheap and throwaway in most of the world. Yet you and Niki would ask that every fertilized human embryo should live (a lot are spontaneously aborted by a woman’s body) and that every life should be cherished (a laudable goal and totally unattainable). Reality is, you can’t have both unlimited reproduction and still value human life and the planet. So, the answer to the value of an endangered bird’s egg, is that, yes, it is very valuable. All those babies you would like to see born need a beautiful world in which to live and be cherished which won’t be the case when the last Swan dies, or the last Robin ceases to sing, or the last tiger ceases to growl in the wilderness because the planet is now wall-to-wall human beings.

        • Niki

          If an embryo is spontaneously aborted by a womans body then there was reason for it. If a women is forced to have sex, is in dager or losing her life due to a pregnancy or becomes pregnant due to incest then yes abortion should be an option. But if people are having abortion so they don’t have to quit their career or in order to not over populate the world then they should use birth control! The same clinics that perform abortions will gladly send you home with condoms or birth control if you ask, and they will even do it before the fact! I am not asking for unlimited reproduction, I am not a bible banging right winger…I am simply asking that abortion be used only when it is the last resort and not because someone forgot to take the pill!

          • Observer

            So, in reality, Niki, you are pro-choice because you have now listed your “approved” abortion situations! Congrats, since this viewpoint was not readily apparent in your other posts.

            • David J. Conklin

              And by your retort you’d be pro-murder of mothers if their pregnancy is killing them.

              • Observer

                Mr. Conklin, your post makes no sense. I am pro-choice all the way. The life of an unborn fetus NEVER trumps the life of a mother. Life is about choices, some are hard. How we make those choices and what they are points to our character. By trying to eliminate all choice in much of life, we admit that we have no faith in our fellow human beings. Regulating that choice, however, reinforces society’s values. I believe since abortion is LEGAL, that society values women and mothers over unborn fetuses and tissue. Comprende, usted?

                • David J. Conklin

                  I was responding to your use of the word “pro-choice” as if there are only two choices in the matter: pro or anti.

      • David J. Conklin

        >”please don’t argue that humans aren’t endagered. ”


        • missy

          @David, the question, or debate is about the value of what’s protected. Society deems an endagered bird more value than human life, and has proven so with laws and regulations.

          @Disgusted with your philosophy, this isn’t about protecting the world from people, it’s about protecting people from people. I still think my argument has validity, regardless of “philosophical” differences. You can disagree, but it proves where our society has established worth and value.

          • David J. Conklin

            >”the question, or debate is about the value of what’s protected. Society deems an endagered bird more value than human life, and has proven so with laws and regulations.”

            True but irrelevant. The claim was ”please don’t argue that humans aren’t endagered.” And so i ask: Why?!?

            • missy

              @David, my entire point is that the government has placed value and protection on an egg because it has the potential to become something. The anti-life proponents claim that a “fetus” does not have value and is not worthy of protection because it has yet to attain “personhood”. So, if the government would just be consistent, than the “fetus” would be recognized as having the potential of becoming “human”, and there would be a good argument to protect the “fetus”. I understand that the goal of protecting the egg is to maintain a species, which is not the main goal for those that want to protect babies in the womb. The egg is identified differently than a fetus.

              • David J. Conklin

                Again “True, but irrelevant.”

                What you are doing is admitting that the claim was ”please don’t argue that humans aren’t endagered” was a throwaway line and you were insulting the readers and users of this comment section.

            • missy

              @David, because I am arguing about value, not numbers. That’s why I didn’t want to get in a debate about over-population. People will protect what they determine has value, regardless of quantity.

              • David J. Conklin

                I didn’t say anything about number5s. I didn’t bring up numbers. The line was nonsense. Proven, now move on.

    • Niki

      Unfortunatly Paul not every woman having an abortion is having it for health reasons :(

      • David J. Conklin

        :”not every woman having an abortion is having it for health reasons”

        Do all anti-abortion types agree that sometimes there are health reasons?

        • Niki

          I do! Unfortunatly not everyone makes a distinction between an abortion for health reason and “other” reasons. And unfortunatly not everyone having an abortion is doing it for health reasons.

          • David J. Conklin

            That puts you in a definite minority then! Join the club!

  • Pat

    Fighting to enplace more senseless government interference and red tape regulation in the private market place? Causing hardship to small business people?

    What are these darned liberal democrats up to now?

    Not democrats, you say? How can that be?

    It just ever surprises me how nuts the radical right are in their battles with “satan” and never ending fight against whatever “evil’ they can define!

  • Jamie in EP

    How does this shrink government spending? How does this add jobs?

    Apparently, neither are a priority to the Republicans? We do not need this ridiculous fringe social legislation, get to work on the economy!

  • EBT-mutts

    I just wish more fatherless children that are bound for a life of welfare and crime would be aborted, but these women are the ones who don’t get abortions because these fatherless accidents are just another paycheck.

    • David J. Conklin

      If the bay was another paycheck, why would anyone be aborting?

      Try thinking things through.

    • Niki

      Just because a child is born to a single mother does not mean that child is a paycheck. How sick of you to say that these children should be aborted!

    • Niki

      children should be born because the parents want them, their income should not matter. But if you don’t want children then please use birth control or don’t have sex! It is not that hard of a concept!

  • G Dog

    Once again, the party of small government wants to create more government if it suits their purposes.

    Hope Minnesotans wake up and vote with their brains this November.

    • PoliticiansSUX

      G Don, they did, 1.5 years back.

      • Progressive Populist

        Yep, thank the good Lord that we elected Governor Dayton as a check against the insanity of Minnesota’s do-nothing, ideology-soaked, trysting-with-each-other legislature. Soap opera writers would have a hard time coming up with a more twisted plot than the way this legislature acts.

    • David J. Conklin

      Well put!

  • Tenbears

    Why some of the peoples want to kill the little unborn babies?

  • Tenbears

    Thus the Great Spirit speaks to the little unborn children;

    You are of God little ones, and therefore have conquered the false prophets.
    For there is one greater in you than there is in the world.
    The ones who promote death belong to the world;
    That is why theirs is the twisted language of the times, and why some even listen to them.
    You belong to God little ones, and anyone who has knowledge of God gives ear to your cries.
    While anyone who is not of God refuses to hear you.

    Thus is distinguished the Spirit of Truth from the Spirit of Deception.
    (Book of Tenbears p29)

  • droop

    So the clinic I go to with my family isn’t licensed?

    • David J. Conklin

      That was my first thought–and after 80+ posts no one seems to know or maybe care.

  • it will never end

    Roe vs Wade is a case in point as to why the Supreme Court avoids an activist interpretation. Their decision is supposed to be the law of the land. Yet if the people and states refuse to accept their decision it is a blow to their power, which is largely based upon their prestige. The campaign against a woman’s right to choose will never end as opposition to it is grounded upon religious principles. Couched though it may be in terms of public safety, this legislation is simply one more attack on the Supreme Court’s decision. After all these years the controversy has never abated, and the war will continue forever.

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